Just wanted to say,
i want more of this, but with grayout before blackout.
i want more of this, but with grayout before blackout.
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Exceeding G-force limits
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I believe one of the books said the chairs produce a gel when we are in them that covers our suits or something.
If I remember correctly they set the limit for redout (negative g forces) to something like 14G and blackout to 18G. Plrase don't quote me on these numbers but it was around that size (+/- 2), which is A LOT. However with futuristic technology maybe survivable for short periods.
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How the hell did you create so many negative Gs? What were you doing? I've never blacked out once in the last year of playing this.
Not quite sure how a suit will protect your internal organs from +20G (normal flight) Pulling hard maneuvers in these ships would outright kill anybody onboard. A while back one of the devs commented on the whole red out thing, he was surprised they had left it ingame from early beta.
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You can redout on quite a few ships (full pitch down and boost) easily done in the clipper and Viper. It's ridiculous..
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Hmmm if it's 14 to 18G's to redout then blackout has to be well in the 20's... the first picture is a mild blackout so the FAS can much to my surprise...
No, 14 for redout, 18 for blackout. There is a difference. Blackout is positive G force (blood leaving your brain), redout is negative G force (blood rushing in your brain and eyes).
Actually it wouldn't exactly turn you into goo, however it most definitely would make you pass out. The most dangerous thing that can happen in regards to G forces is blood leaving or entering the brain. Without a suit 8-9 postive G and 3-4 negative G would make you lose consciousness and kill you if it takes longer. This issue can be countered by suits up to fairly high numbers as long as you have the necessary technology. Forces, where your internals get crushed and stuff like that are at much higher forces - e.g. falling on concrete (several 100+G).
And for the suit: They basically contain pockets filled with a fluid, which, when accelerated, creates outside pressure around your body, pushing the blood back to where it should be. It copies the functionality of the organs of Dragonflies. Those badass little f-ers withstand 30Gs and literally kill their prey by catching them while pulling high-G maneuvers, turning their already somewhat fluid insides into a smoothie.
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I never said it would turn you into goo, it would kill you outright. Dead stop to max boost speed in a Cobra is 23G, Pitching full up/or down whilst boosting and it's game over. The Clipper is an extreme example of how crazy the G forces are when flying these ships (bridge full forward from the Center of gravity)
Let's face it, redout from negative G was put in as a gimmick.
Just an FYI, 15G+ sustained and you start receiving damage to internal organs.
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As said, those suits can counter blood-related deaths. The only reason we don't have suits capable of fighting such high forces is fabric and the fact that we can only cover certain areas without making the suit completely static. Also we have no way of covering the head, so redouts can't be fought. However imagining the space suit in Elite was filled with fluid (which I doubt it is, but for arguments sake) and was absolutely form stiff, so wouldn't expand under high pressure, it would be able to keep you alive during much much higher forces, for short periods of times.
But I agree on that, it was only put in as a gimmick. The maximum forces were chosen completely random and I honestly haven't seen any official explanation of how they actually combat these. It's still only a game after all, not a hardcore sim.
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Sorry don't mean to argu with you but the first picture is a blackout (positive G's) but it's so faint it's barely noticeable, but the little ship vector icon down to the right is pointing upwards.... but okey 18G's to blackout got it.
Oh damn I'm stupid
Sorry, didn't look at the dashboard. Well I'll be dammed, this is the first time I have seen a blackout in Elite 
I think all can reach negative Gs. Ive done it in my dropship multiple times with assist on. And i think we can agree that the drooship isnt the most mobile ship in the game
I think all can reach negative Gs. Ive done it in my dropship multiple times with assist on. And i think we can agree that the drooship isnt the most mobile ship in the game
Yeah I just crossed out that line in my previous post (just a couple seconds too slow). I didn't realize that the picture shown above is actually a blackout, so the even harder to reach G-force. Didn't notice it until OP enlightened me
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High tech gel protects you. How? Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Considering current fairly low tech pressure suits significantly increase survivability, it is not very magic
Then he engaged the power systems, allowing the protective flight-gel to ease up around him.
Wagar, Drew (2014-06-07). Elite: Reclamation (Elite: Dangerous) (Kindle Locations 2184-2185). Fantastic Books Publishing. Kindle Edition.
She was flung forward in her seat, which tilted precipitately. She grimaced as the straps dug into her shoulders. Forces ripped her around, a sickening twisted pain burned in her neck. No protective gel! Wasn’t it supposed to … Vibration distorted her vision, she couldn’t see. She tried desperately to breathe, flailing in a vain attempt to relieve the pressure from the straps. A shuddering violent jolt, even worse than before. Blood on her shoulders, the straps cutting flesh.
Wagar, Drew (2014-06-07). Elite: Reclamation (Elite: Dangerous) (Kindle Locations 3367-3371). Fantastic Books Publishing. Kindle Edition.
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in all the books, they talk about the stimulants and nanites fed into your bloodstream by the cockpit gel chair to protect you and stop you dying on massive G acceleration and turns,
referenced elite: Wanted and mostly harmless books, docking is difficult and nemorensis directly talk about it.
and wanted
referenced elite: Wanted and mostly harmless books, docking is difficult and nemorensis directly talk about it.
and wanted
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Mark Allen
Programmer- Elite: Dangerous
Just if anyone's interested, the current limits at which things start happening with g-forces is 25 positive G and 18 negative G - which would be extremely unpleasant!
Way back when I was first testing supercruise I initially forgot to turn these off (so they would have been based on a "real" object moving at insane speed) - touched the controls and my pilot almost instantly blacked out and stayed that way for 5-10 minutes. In reality it would probably have liquefied the ship let alone the pilot, I'm talking sustained 6-figure G forces.
Way back when I was first testing supercruise I initially forgot to turn these off (so they would have been based on a "real" object moving at insane speed) - touched the controls and my pilot almost instantly blacked out and stayed that way for 5-10 minutes. In reality it would probably have liquefied the ship let alone the pilot
, I'm talking sustained 6-figure G forces.