Exploring Water Worlds - Dolphin, Orca, Beluga

[Pequi]

I think the fuel scoop bleeds the energy from your shield as you close on the star and converts it to fuel.
Honestly if you think too hard then the weapons wouldn't work because they would be inside the shield.

Just think of it as being to advanced, in the physics realm , for our brains to comprehend.

As the whole mankind knows since the elementary school, shields have a frequency, which can be modulated. So, it's no problem to synchronize them with the weapons and shoot through them. Like in the 1.WW with the machine guns shooting "through" the propeller of the aircraft. When you know the shield modulation/frequency you are able to circumvent them, like the Borg did. Sometimes, rotating shield modulation can prevent this.
QED.

P.S. : the fuel scooped from stars is just simple plasma, not a mysterious type of energy conversion from the shield. Strange idea, btw. You would have known this, when you not have slept in the 2. Class of the elementary school. Sit down, F!

P.PS: my brain can compete with every physical problem you may think for!

 

[Schmack]

You can't really use space travelling vessels as underwater vessels though due to the different sorts of pressure.

Space - vessels designed to keep the pressure inside.

Underwater - vessels designed to keep the pressure outside.

They could float though and deploy DSVs.

 

[Schmack]

Every ship with a shield is able to survive an amount of depth. Shields are designed to withstand all kind of materia: Air, water, etc. Maybe, depends on the "mechanics" of the shield technology, a shield annihilate materia or just displaces/repels it. The latter would be better for submerging… otherwise the ocean gets empty and the atmosphere too…

You wouldn't be able to move through the water if your shied repelled the only medium you could use for propulsion. The resistance against your shield and lack of medium would have you burning the sparse amount of air inside the shield to try to move forward. Heaven forbid you had to employ the caterpillar drive. One ping only.

 

[Pequi]

You wouldn't be able to move through the water if your shied repelled the only medium you could use for propulsion. The resistance against your shield and lack of medium would have you burning the sparse amount of air inside the shield to try to move forward. Heaven forbid you had to employ the caterpillar drive. One ping only.

Sigh!
Was I the only one, who was awake in 3.class ES?
Modern space ships are in need for high speed. So, old fashioned chemical actio=reactio propulsion were replaced by the far more efficient space warp engine, which is capable of warping the space in front of the vessel and release it behind it. So, it makes a movement in relation to the surrounding space outside the warp bubble, but no movement in regard to his direct surrounding space inside of it. So, it's possible to accelerate with high values without getting mashed. Cuz, you don't sense the acceleration. Cuz it's no real acceleration. Cuz it's space warping. Clear so far?

P.S. : to answer, why we see an exhaust gas: that's a graphical tribute to the classic lovers. Like motor sound out of the loudspeaker while accelerating silently with an electric vehicle. So, it looks (sounds) more like a muscle car instead of Hello kitty.
In reality, the warp engine works completely silent.

 

[WR3ND]

Every spaceship is able to submerge, resurfacing on the other hand...

Or the more likely approach would be that they have a crush depth depending on which ship it is.

This was actually sort of alluded to by David Braben in the talk he did on gas giants and how implementing them would work for gameplay and how ships would handle lower pressures.

Spoiler

[video=youtube_share;ypIq3fg9nMM]https://youtu.be/ypIq3fg9nMM[/video]

 

[WR3ND]

Well there was a NES port, and it's said to be the best 8 bit version (I'd go with Elite-A personally, but that's an unofficial version, and in any case I've not played the NES one).

Oh, snap! I need this for my top loader. Never saw it here in the US that I recall.

 

[Helvellyn]

Oh, snap! I need this for my top loader. Never saw it here in the US that I recall.

Unfortunately it seems to have been Europe only, so no NSTC version.

 

[WR3ND]

Unfortunately it seems to have been Europe only, so no NSTC version.

I hear the top loaders aren't region specific. I'll have to look into it some more, but might be out of luck.

 

[Laste]

As the whole mankind knows since the elementary school, shields have a frequency, which can be modulated. So, it's no problem to synchronize them with the weapons and shoot through them. Like in the 1.WW with the machine guns shooting "through" the propeller of the aircraft. When you know the shield modulation/frequency you are able to circumvent them, like the Borg did. Sometimes, rotating shield modulation can prevent this.
QED.

P.S. : the fuel scooped from stars is just simple plasma, not a mysterious type of energy conversion from the shield. Strange idea, btw. You would have known this, when you not have slept in the 2. Class of the elementary school. Sit down, F!

P.PS: my brain can compete with every physical problem you may think for!

What elementary school did you go to that talked about shield frequencies on a spaceship? That's quite a whopper of a lie there, as is plasma from the sun one.
You sir are a grade A troll, And not a very good or even bright one.
Ps: no one believes your bragging about your intelligence, as that is normally an indication of a lack of one. Or you're a kid with a bad grasp of reality and a need to be seen as something you are not.

 

[Schmack]

Sigh!
Was I the only one, who was awake in 3.class ES?
Modern space ships are in need for high speed. So, old fashioned chemical actio=reactio propulsion were replaced by the far more efficient space warp engine, which is capable of warping the space in front of the vessel and release it behind it. So, it makes a movement in relation to the surrounding space outside the warp bubble, but no movement in regard to his direct surrounding space inside of it. So, it's possible to accelerate with high values without getting mashed. Cuz, you don't sense the acceleration. Cuz it's no real acceleration. Cuz it's space warping. Clear so far?

P.S. : to answer, why we see an exhaust gas: that's a graphical tribute to the classic lovers. Like motor sound out of the loudspeaker while accelerating silently with an electric vehicle. So, it looks (sounds) more like a muscle car instead of Hello kitty.
In reality, the warp engine works completely silent.

Sure, but you don't have the vacuum of space underwater, but you could employ Smith-Purcell radiation and take advantage of the oscillating dipole on a large scale to superheat the water, causing rapid expansion and thus forward movement. I want to see the grates you choose however, and feel sorry for any marine life.

 

[Schmack]

As the whole mankind knows since the elementary school, shields have a frequency, which can be modulated. So, it's no problem to synchronize them with the weapons and shoot through them. Like in the 1.WW with the machine guns shooting "through" the propeller of the aircraft. When you know the shield modulation/frequency you are able to circumvent them, like the Borg did. Sometimes, rotating shield modulation can prevent this.
QED.

P.S. : the fuel scooped from stars is just simple plasma, not a mysterious type of energy conversion from the shield. Strange idea, btw. You would have known this, when you not have slept in the 2. Class of the elementary school. Sit down, F!

P.PS: my brain can compete with every physical problem you may think for!

Substitute "rotate" with "dither" and you are at least hinting at science, since "rotation" has a frequency as well.

Plasma is ionized gas. Why would you need ionized gas to fuel an engine that doesn't use thrust?

 

[Pequi]

Substitute "rotate" with "dither" and you are at least hinting at science, since "rotation" has a frequency as well.

Plasma is ionized gas. Why would you need ionized gas to fuel an engine that doesn't use thrust?

Seems, you got me. I love this senseless techbabble in the most sf movies. Tried to compete with them and failed epic, lol.
Don't take anything serious I wrote in my posts in this thread. Some guy took this too serious, was all a joke.

P.S.: ...but to spin further: ionized gas is the fuel for the plasma converter, which runs the warp engine with the converted energy. Therefor we need Dilizium crystals (or so).

 

[GraXXoR]

What elementary school did you go to that talked about shield frequencies on a spaceship? That's quite a whopper of a lie there, as is plasma from the sun one.
You sir are a grade A troll, And not a very good or even bright one.
Ps: no one believes your bragging about your intelligence, as that is normally an indication of a lack of one. Or you're a kid with a bad grasp of reality and a need to be seen as something you are not.

 

[Para Handy]

I presume I must be on a lot of people's ignore list so I will just repeat:

Moray Star Boat

/thread

 

[CMDR KRITIKOSK8]

That's certainly true for our "real world" materials. Though I think Elite ships are much more sturdy and capable of withstanding pressures and damage in both directions. Take the accelerations rates of our ships, for example. Ships in elite are hundreds of tonnes, yet they can accelerate at the rates of tens of 'g's without any structural problems.

The acceleration is not an issue . I think the ship is not travelling in a real speed of let's say 30 times light speed, and in fact it is altering the space in front of it.

 

[crushdepth]

It’s the amount of pressure that’s the problem. In a spaceship leaving an earthlike planet, you’re only dealing with a change of one atmosphere of pressure, so a spaceship doesn’t need to be able to handle any more than that (strengthening it to withstand more would cost more weight). The pressure under an ocean can be easily several hundred times that.

An aerobraking spacecraft would be subject to extreme pressures, so I'm not sure it's impossible. But I'll settle for a submersible SRV.

 

[Laste]

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Depends on the day or poster.You know, typical forum day.