[FACTS] Space!

Bjarki2330

Bjarki2330
Well, I am going to start this thread and update it once in a while, but I will start off with some simple fun facts for you guys!
Hope you enjoy!

Fun Fact #1
Have you ever wondered how long it would take you to travel to another star just by supercruise? Well, that may take some time, since a single lightyear is 31,556,926 Ls, so let's say you are traveling at 1500c(That's the equivalent of 1500Ls/s), it would take you aproximately 5.8 hours! That's a lot!

Fun Fact #2
The center of our galaxy, the Milky Way, is approximately 26000 Lightyears from Earth. Imagine how many jumps that would be!

Fun Fact #3
The "point of no return" of a black hole is called the "event horizon". Anything that passes that point will get sucked in, no matter what happens. Well, maybe you could escape with some fast supercruise. Right?

Fun Fact #4
Our galaxy, the milky way, is said to move with a velocity of around 552 km/s!

Fun Fact #5
The Milky Way belongs to a group og galaxies called the Local Cluster. Andromeda is the biggest one in that cluster!

Fun Fact #6
The Andromeda is closing in on Milky Way, actually it is said, based on current calculations, that the two galaxies will collide.
Andromeda is traveling towards our Milky Way at speeds ranging from 100 - 140 km/s. It might sound fast, but compared to the vastness of space, it REALLY isn't!

Fun Fact #7
There are planets out there in our galaxy(and probably just about all galaxies) that are floating aimlessly without a parent star. These planets are called rogue planets and are speculated to be extremely cold. Though some scientists think some of these planets may actually have an active core, increasing the likelihood of some form of life surviving there. Sounds cool!

Fun Fact #8
The WoW! Signal is a signal from space detected by SETI's Big Ear Radio Telescope, by a man named Jerry R. Ehman in 1977. The signal is said to have lasted as long as 72 seconds! The signal closely resembles the Hydrogen Line, which makes many conspiracy theorists very excited! The signal appear to have come from a part of the sky with no known stars or planets, but a signal this strong and on such a specific frequency is very unlikely to have been of natural origin.

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More will come! Stay tuned!


[DISCLAIMER] This is purely for entertainment purposes. I will not reply to any comments regarding those facts, this is based on what I know and nothing else. Thank you. :)
 
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jpaulwilson1982

jpaulwilson1982
About fun fact #3- It's been theorized that a White Hole is the ejection of matter and energy swallowed by black holes. If true, that could be another means of getting out of a black hole. Either way, spaghettification will still kill you. And about escaping a BH with supercruise- seems totally possible I think. But I wonder if black holes have a speed limit for escape. Does everything at and below the speed of light get sucked in, but anything faster can escape? Or will BHs be able to trap anything at any speed?

Another fun fact- One day, billions of years from now (2 billion?), the Andromeda Galaxy will merge with the Milky Way Galaxy. Due to the vast amount of space between the stars, this process isn't supposed to be as catastrophic as it sounds.
 

Samosa

Samosa
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Petersen

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Bjarki2330 said:
Well, I am going to start this thread and update it once in a while, but I will start off with some simple fun facts for you guys!
Hope you enjoy!

Fun Fact #1
Have you ever wondered how long it would take you to travel to another star just by supercruise? Well, that may take some time, since a single lightyear is 31,556,926 Ls, so let's say you are traveling at 1500c(That's the equivalent of 1500Ls/s), it would take you aproximately 5.8 hours! That's a lot!

Fun Fact #2
The center of our galaxy, the Milky Way, is approximately 26000 Lightyears from Earth. Imagine how many jumps that would be!

Fun Fact #3
The "point of no return" of a black hole is called the "event horizon". Anything that passes that point will get sucked in, no matter what happens. Well, maybe you could escape with some fast supercruise. Right?
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1 and 2 are simple. Also, the maximum velocity in Supercruise is 2001C. Not 2000. 2001. Almost like you're taking an odyssey. Through space.

2 is well-known to any Buckball-runners.

3 is right, but your last statement is clearly wrong, since it is objects of great mass which disrupt and slow super cruise. If you could travel at 2001C, I imagine the event horizon would be much closer to the anomaly, but at that range, your super cruise would max out at 100 km/s at best.
 

jpaulwilson1982

jpaulwilson1982
Petersen said:
1 and 2 are simple. Also, the maximum velocity in Supercruise is 2001C. Not 2000. 2001. Almost like you're taking an odyssey. Through space.

2 is well-known to any Buckball-runners.

3 is right, but your last statement is clearly wrong, since it is objects of great mass which disrupt and slow super cruise. If you could travel at 2001C, I imagine the event horizon would be much closer to the anomaly, but at that range, your super cruise would max out at 100 km/s at best.
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Good point on #3. That's a personal face-palm moment for me not remembering mass slowing SC speeds :S
 
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jmg

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jpaulwilson1982 said:
About fun fact #3- It's been theorized that a White Hole is the ejection of matter and energy swallowed by black holes. If true, that could be another means of getting out of a black hole. Either way, spaghettification will still kill you. And about escaping a BH with supercruise- seems totally possible I think. But I wonder if black holes have a speed limit for escape. Does everything at and below the speed of light get sucked in, but anything faster can escape? Or will BHs be able to trap anything at any speed?
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what are the mechanics of supercruise? I'm assuming we're really not going faster than "c", but it's working more like a (ehem) "traditional" warp drive, contracting space ahead of it and expanding it behind, giving an effective high-c speed? I'm assuming FD didn't sidestep the "can't go faster than speed of light" rule without an explanation?
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assuming FSB uses a type of warp, then no, getting out of a BH should be possible, as long as your FSB's ability to "warp" space is greater than the black hole's. but given the massive slow down as you get closer to stars, I'm assuming it's not powerful enough once you pass the event horizon.
 
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ralf_maeder

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The event horizon is a theoretical kind of border which physical laws are based on the assumption that the speed of light is the maximal speed which matter never really can reach. So spaceships that travel in supercruise with speeds above speed of light won't encounter the same event horizon as normal matter or electromagnetic waves (light). Its difficult to predict the behaviour of a faster than light spaceship in relation to the effects of a black hole and gravity in general.
 

Grumpy181155

Grumpy181155
Petersen said:
1 and 2 are simple. Also, the maximum velocity in Supercruise is 2001C. Not 2000. 2001. Almost like you're taking an odyssey. Through space.
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Are you sure it is 2001C because that sound a lot like you would be travelling in space .......... as you said ....... on some sort of odyssey. :D
 
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Drakkir

Drakkir
Umm you can't supercruise from one system to another. Been there tried that. Again showing the game is a mile wide, one inch deep. If you don't "Hyperdrive" you never leave the system youre in no matter how far you 'seem' to travel in Supercruise.
 
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Cmdr Cheese Wedge

Cmdr Cheese Wedge
Fun Space Fact: Cats originated on the 5th Planet of Zeta2 Reticuli.
The dust cloud surrounding the system on closer inspection is in fact an enormous hairball.
 

callahan44

callahan44
# fun fact 2001
If you flew away from Earth approaching 1c, the Earth would appear to slow its spin, and then stop. As you go faster it'll start spinning the other direction.
 

jpaulwilson1982

jpaulwilson1982
jmg said:
what are the mechanics of supercruise? I'm assuming we're really not going faster than "c", but it's working more like a (ehem) "traditional" warp drive, contracting space ahead of it and expanding it behind, giving an effective high-c speed? I'm assuming FD didn't sidestep the "can't go faster than speed of light" rule without an explanation?
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assuming FSB uses a type of warp, then no, getting out of a BH should be possible, as long as your FSB's ability to "warp" space is greater than the black hole's. but given the massive slow down as you get closer to stars, I'm assuming it's not powerful enough once you pass the event horizon.
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From what I understand, you're indeed not going faster than light in SuperCruise. The Frame Shift Drive does something to repeatedly alter your frame of reference (something of absolute importance in Relativity), that way you aren't affected by the strange consequences of going FTL (if that makes any sense).

Also, it wouldn't be possible to Supercruise into black hole's event horizon since the Frame Shift Drive drops you out of SC if you approach a mass too closely. (big thanks to the guy who pointed this out for me!) So my statement about escaping an Event Horizon in Supercruise was, well... stupid on my part :p But I do wonder if someone could escape the Event Horizon IF FTL travel was possible by other means (other than via the FSD).

ralf_maeder said:
The event horizon is a theoretical kind of border which physical laws are based on the assumption that the speed of light is the maximal speed which matter never really can reach. So spaceships that travel in supercruise with speeds above speed of light won't encounter the same event horizon as normal matter or electromagnetic waves (light). Its difficult to predict the behaviour of a faster than light spaceship in relation to the effects of a black hole and gravity in general.
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It's difficult to predict the behavior of a FTL spaceship in even normal space. But near a black hole or in an event horizon? I think we'll need to play around with the Large Hadron Collider for a few more decades before we can even come close to an answer for such a scenario. But its still fun to think about. :D

Grumpy181155 said:
Are you sure it is 2001C because that sound a lot like you would be travelling in space .......... as you said ....... on some sort of odyssey. :D
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You know, I never sat down and watched that whole, entire movie. I've seen bits and pieces throughout the years, but never the whole thing. I need to do that.

Drakkir said:
Umm you can't supercruise from one system to another. Been there tried that. Again showing the game is a mile wide, one inch deep. If you don't "Hyperdrive" you never leave the system youre in no matter how far you 'seem' to travel in Supercruise.
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Yep, I've heard others say the same thing. I mean, I'd probably never try to SC to another system, but being able to do so would be pretty awesome- especially so for those who actually try to do it!

callahan44 said:
# fun fact 2001
If you flew away from Earth approaching 1c, the Earth would appear to slow its spin, and then stop. As you go faster it'll start spinning the other direction.
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I don't think that's how it works... but I could be wrong... might be possible if you're Superman :D
 
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callahan44

callahan44
jpaulwilson1982 said:
I don't think that's how it works... but I could be wrong... might be possible if you're Superman :D
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It's only a visual effect, Earth doesn't really start spinning the other way. Just like if you jump 1000ly away, and look back at Earth, you'd see it how it looked 1000 years before :)

(and why E:D keeps it simple when you're in SC... too bloody complicated! lol)
 
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