Porcupine was up there for a real long time aswell
Fall DLC 2023 Speculation
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Here is what animals I think are eventually coming based off evidence in-game
. Macaw
Both the empty base-game WTE and the staff room poster
.Echidna
One of the songs in the in-game soundtrack is called ‘echidna round’
I can’t think of any others rn. I’ll update this if I notice anything else.
. Macaw
Both the empty base-game WTE and the staff room poster
.Echidna
One of the songs in the in-game soundtrack is called ‘echidna round’
I can’t think of any others rn. I’ll update this if I notice anything else.
Haha, devils advocate. I see what you did there.
Voici mon idée de pack
There's so many different reasons certain animals may or may not have been added to certain packs. It's not just demand... They need to match a relevant theme (that, depending on timing, might also need to tie to a building set, scenery, and so on). They need to be able to create a pack with 3 or 6 other habitat animals that will also drive sales. And we know that Frontier (more often than not) tries to link packs to the season. It doesn't happen every time but there's a definite attempt on Frontier's part to make it happen. So that's an obstacle too. And if they wanted to do a desert pack? Summer's the time to do it.
It all ties back to what Frontier thinks will sell, what will look good as a total package, and so on.
Is it weird that they didn't bother to include the devil in the Twilight pack? I definitely think so! But Frontier seemed to be hoping that the scenery (200+ items) and bats would be the driver for that one. So it may have made sense to hold back on the devil for another pack... Where it could be a headliner or have more attention drawn to it.
This is all to say that for really any of the remaining animals people are clamoring for... There's plenty of logical reasons they may be "holding back."
It all ties back to what Frontier thinks will sell, what will look good as a total package, and so on.
Is it weird that they didn't bother to include the devil in the Twilight pack? I definitely think so! But Frontier seemed to be hoping that the scenery (200+ items) and bats would be the driver for that one. So it may have made sense to hold back on the devil for another pack... Where it could be a headliner or have more attention drawn to it.
This is all to say that for really any of the remaining animals people are clamoring for... There's plenty of logical reasons they may be "holding back."
Essentially any of the mammals that we're asking for could both be included or not included. They're not necessarily holding them back for other packs, they may not be planning to add them at all. The Tasmanian Devil being so high profile here doesn't necessarily equate being that important to casual players or animal enthusiasts - I think most of us here are not just casual players or casual animal enthusiasts. But I think it has a better chance than most other mammals, even though it's not a sure bet. The Wolverine, as the second most wanted mammal right now has good chance as well, just not quite as well as the devil. One thing that works in both their favor is they are both not hot climate animals, which I think there will probably be a cool/cold climate pack.
The big group being almost ignored is the New World Monkeys and I'm more concerned about those, even though the Devil and Wolverine are, specific species-wise, more important to me. We've had a tropical pack though I'm still hoping for something Amazon-centric. Ideally I'd like 6 more New World Primates but I can see us getting no more than 3. I just really have a hard time thinking we won't get any others at all.
As far as birds..that's a whole other issue. They're important to real world zoos, though not always that high profile. Macaws of some species are practically staple animals of most zoos. Toucans and Bald Eagles are instantly recognizable. Not being able to recreate that in any way will definitely be a huge missing component of the game. To say nothing of more habitat oriented birds like the Secretary Bird, Kiwi, Swan and Shoebill. I think we will get the Kiwi but I'm very much less confident about the rest.
The big group being almost ignored is the New World Monkeys and I'm more concerned about those, even though the Devil and Wolverine are, specific species-wise, more important to me. We've had a tropical pack though I'm still hoping for something Amazon-centric. Ideally I'd like 6 more New World Primates but I can see us getting no more than 3. I just really have a hard time thinking we won't get any others at all.
As far as birds..that's a whole other issue. They're important to real world zoos, though not always that high profile. Macaws of some species are practically staple animals of most zoos. Toucans and Bald Eagles are instantly recognizable. Not being able to recreate that in any way will definitely be a huge missing component of the game. To say nothing of more habitat oriented birds like the Secretary Bird, Kiwi, Swan and Shoebill. I think we will get the Kiwi but I'm very much less confident about the rest.
Here’s a thought;
Amazon Animal Pack
. Howler Monkey
. Spider Monkey
. Squirrel Monkey
. Common Wooly Monkey
. Coati
. Ocelot
. Kinkajou
. Exhibit Animal: Macaws (Similar to the butterflies, there are different kinds, e.g. blue and yellow, scarlet, hyacinth, and they count as one animal, and they use a WTE like the butterflies
Amazon Animal Pack
. Howler Monkey
. Spider Monkey
. Squirrel Monkey
. Common Wooly Monkey
. Coati
. Ocelot
. Kinkajou
. Exhibit Animal: Macaws (Similar to the butterflies, there are different kinds, e.g. blue and yellow, scarlet, hyacinth, and they count as one animal, and they use a WTE like the butterflies
That's a good line up. I didn't think about the Kinkajou but it would be neat to have.
I'd go with 3 primates - a Howler Monkey, Squirrel Monkey and Spider Monkey - or Tamarin though that would be a lot of work.
Coati
Ocelot
Collard Peccary
Brazilian Porcupine
Exhibit: Two Toed Sloth species.
Toucans or Macaws would be fantastic, but I'm trying (and failing) to somewhat limit my hopes on exhibit/habitat birds. If we do get exhibit birds, a variety of macaws would be great, but they're not going to be as "clone-like" as the butterflies. I mean, if Frontier wanted to go that route that would be great, but I think each species would probably take up a slot in the animal count, if that makes sense.
I think its depends on the case.
Like some inclusions make other candidates unlikely or redundant. Ofc nothing is a 100% prove. But the inclusion of the porcupine for example makes cape or indians pretty unlikely and imo pointless.
There's two sides to that of course. Given the time frame in which we'll still likely get DLC a second Old World Porcupine wouldn't be a priority. On the other hand, they also have the rig, which I'm sure they spent a lot of time on. If they could reuse it even just once that would give that rig more value. So, in that train of thought, if we're looking at DLC next year or even in the unlikely scenario beyond next year, another Old World Porcupine might become even more likely.
Idk man. For certain animals it makes sense to reuse the rig, like the gibbons for example, but there is so little difference between the porcupines that it would just feel like paying for them twice, to me atleast.
And sure the porc was probably one of the most tricky animals to make, but that probably the reason why the rest of the arid pack were on the simpler Side
Here’s some ideas
Adaptations Animal Pack
. Secretary Bird
. Prehensile-tailed Porcupine
. Tree Kangaroo
. American Lynx
. Gray Fox
. Virginia Opossum
. Collared Peccary
. Exhibit Animal: Flying Squirrel (WTE)
New World Animal Pack
. American Black Bear
. South American Coati
. American River Otter
. Bobcat
. Howler Monkey
. Ocelot
. Rhea
. Exhibit Animal: Golden Lion Tamarin (WTE)
Treetop Animal Pack
. Margay
. Tree Kangaroo
. Spider Monkey
. Squirrel Monkey
. Gray Fox
. Brushtail Possum
. African Leopard
. Exhibit Animal: Macaws (WTE)
Tundra Animal Pack
. Walrus
. Wolverine
. Snowshoe Hare
. Muskox
. American Black Bear
. Elk
. Tundra Swan
. Exhibit Animal: Tundra Vole
Adaptations Animal Pack
. Secretary Bird
. Prehensile-tailed Porcupine
. Tree Kangaroo
. American Lynx
. Gray Fox
. Virginia Opossum
. Collared Peccary
. Exhibit Animal: Flying Squirrel (WTE)
New World Animal Pack
. American Black Bear
. South American Coati
. American River Otter
. Bobcat
. Howler Monkey
. Ocelot
. Rhea
. Exhibit Animal: Golden Lion Tamarin (WTE)
Treetop Animal Pack
. Margay
. Tree Kangaroo
. Spider Monkey
. Squirrel Monkey
. Gray Fox
. Brushtail Possum
. African Leopard
. Exhibit Animal: Macaws (WTE)
Tundra Animal Pack
. Walrus
. Wolverine
. Snowshoe Hare
. Muskox
. American Black Bear
. Elk
. Tundra Swan
. Exhibit Animal: Tundra Vole
Well that's certainly...a take.
"I doubt we'll get the number one wishlist animal, we'll probably get a flying bird instead!"
Overall great pack lineups but replace the Bobcat with Tasmanian Devil since Australia is considered new world. I cannot imagine the forum mood if we got 4 more packs and no Devil.
The reason is we have actual in-game evidence of getting macaws. Theres a poster in the staff room of a blue and yellow macaw. There was also one in the vet of a sloth and we got it."I doubt we'll get the number one wishlist animal, we'll probably get a flying bird instead!"
I was making the new world pack a kind of north and south america 2.0 pack in 1. That’s why I didn’t include Australia
To be honest looking back at the wishlist, there are barely any animals that are "needs", the game I think would feel complete if it were to end support (obviously its not ending, we have 2 more packs minimum). I honestly am not that excited for a couple animals in the top 10 of the wishlist like the Walrus or Tassie Devil. They're cool animals, but they're not very common in zoos, especially the Walrus.
In my opinion, the animals we need are:
In my opinion, the animals we need are:
- At least 2 More New World Monkeys (I dont care which, I just want some monkeys for god sakes lol)
- At least 1 More Bird (Grey Crowned, Swan, Mallard, Shoebill, Secretary Bird, etc)
- Blackbuck (We dont have any Asian Antelope species - feels like we should)
- Wolverine (We'll probably get it in a mountains pack)
- Serval (just a cool cat)
- Pallas Cat (The Grumpiest of the cats)
- Aoudad (Common in zoos, plus I like mountain sheep)
- Baboon Species (Hamadryas or Gelada)
- Secretary Bird (Such a unique animal)
- Spectacled Bear (Extremely likely for a mountains pack)
- Ocelot (Personal pick, plus more SA species are always welcome)
- Honey Badger (Cool african animal)
- Markhor (One of the coolest unglutes imo)
I’m going to do my version on this.
Needed Animals:
. More Animals From The Americas (e.g. New World Monkeys, Ocelot, American Black Bear, Rhea, etc.)
. Asian Hoofstock (e.g. Takin, Markhor)
My top 10 in no particular order
. Secretary Bird
. Rhea
. Gray Fox
. Takin
. Markhor
. Ocelot
. New World Monkeys (at least 2)
. American Black Bear
. African Leopard
. Coyote
Not the same as reusing the rig obviously but now they have figured out how to make all those quills and such I wonder if they would want to get back their investment on that a bit more by adding a few more animals with those sort of structures such as an echidna.