fastest way to buy fleet carrier

[Scary Asp Explorer]

figured out that having big group of players can help buying fleet carrier................by doing winged mining missions and sharing them with group. and vice versa.

first collect exploration data minimum 4 pages,value not less than 5 millions total. same for group.so explore together alot of systems.
now you with your group look for systems that have couple factions and multiple orbitals with large pads.
be sure that picked system will offer mining missions.
once you found system eligible for mining missions check what station offer mining missions and what station offers metals/minerals.
sell half of your data on first station and fly to next station and sell rest of data. group should do this aswell.
now run credit donation missions along your group to get more standings.
look for non wing cobalt bauxite rutile indite silver gold missions,take them and buy the goods on next station,group need do this aswell
rinse repeat this for some time
start collecting wing missions for large quantity metals/minerals missions so gold silver cobalt rutile bauxite indite bertrandite missions,
share these missions with group and buy then deliver materials but dont complete them yet.(WARNING gold silver bertrandite cost alot so must have 100 millions already)
once you filled up missions complete them all at once (make sure you shared them first and they accepted share)
now collect up to 20 bertrandite missions if possible, if gold/silver missions pops in dont take them until desperate.
avoid missions that demands more than 900 stuff unless its bertrandite!

now numbers stuff.
gold/silver missions want no more than 450 quantity at most time. dont stack gold/silver missions you will starve.
bertrandite cost around 12-14 millions for around 730 pieces so its acceptable
goold silver cost will be around 19-25 millions depends how much mission demand is.

the gold/silver missions with maxed out (green) standings pay up to 50 millions (sometimes less,if less=dont pick the mission)
the bertrandite missions with same as above will always give 50 millions so pick them always

now lets see the numbers

1x 700 bertrandite mission will cost you 12-13 millions = payout 50millions so 38-37 millions pure profit. (npc crew can eat some profit so might be bit less too so even 36 millions)
10 bertrandite missions will cost you around 130+/- millions and payout into your pocket is around 380+/- millions.
20 bertrandite missions will cost you around 270+/- millions and paout will be around 760 millions.+/-
100 bertrandite missions will cost you 1billion 300 millions +/- and your pocket gets around 3billions 800 millions +/-
200 bertrandite missions will cost you 2 billions 600 millions +/- and you will have gained around 7 billions and 600 millions +/- eoungh for base carrier and few services!
+/- means that there can be less/more profit and/or less more demand
the bertrandite missions will asks for amount of bertrandite in range from 690 to even 930. most times will be between 720 and 860. so need big ship.
be aware that 700 is example number, closest to this seen mission for 709 bertrandite and for 690, its usually 720-730 up to 860 (max 930 seen) so need add the values when calculating.


if this gonna be used for one player with no group to carrier purchase,forget it due two factors.. first factor is your playtime - if its 7-8 hours per day then you might eventually do this. second factor is how many bertrandite missions you will collect within said 7-8 hours? could take month or more to finally buy it. but if you fly with big group then 10 days.

interdictions - found one system that has just random interdictions and even with stacked 20 bertrandite missions i had zero interdictions. only random ones will happen so kraits,fer-de-lances,cheftans and smaller stuff like adders,vipers. there is way to completly skip the interdiction, when pirate says some stuff to local chat like "next target is you commander" simply stop ship exit supercruise before they start interdiction.. then go into supercruise again and you wont be annoyed.


this wont work in sothis and ceos,already tried.. dozens of interdictions full of vettes,condas,pythons,cutters... but found another system where interdictions are rare.

 

[STRONTIUM DOG]

this part of the forum tends to be about pc issues
your in game guide/tutorial would be better of here https://forums.frontier.co.uk/forums/elite-dangerous-newcomers-guides-tutorials/

 

[Scary Asp Explorer]

right.. reported myself to get this moved to guides and tutorials section

 

[Cmdr Sharky]

I read all that and was confused... then it clicked. If you buy the materials to complete a wing mission, then all the players in the wing can claim the cash reward, effectively multiplying the initial investment in the materials. Did I understand that right? This could also be used as a way of "transferring" money from one player to the other, if my friend in his Anaconda and I in my crappy little starter ship take a wing mission then I can earn mega bucks off of his cargo capacity.

Seems like a bit of a bug, that you can fool someone into paying three times for the same goods!

 

[Scary Asp Explorer]

you read it wrong way..you only pay for the metals/minerals once,wingmates dont need to buy. ill say in numbers
1. you take the bertrandite/gold/silver mission that is for wings then you invite friends to team,be sure that team members are in same system as you!
2. you fly next station to buy the bertrandite/gold/silver.
3, you fly back to station that gave you mission, you transfer the goods now.
4. dont complete mission yet,instead goto transactions tab where missions are displayed,select mission then hit the "share mission"
5. wait until team members accept shared mission,once they confirm they accepted mission you complete on your side then they can complete theirs.

making big bucks, 4 of these missions let you buy anaconda and you have minimal funds leftover to make basic fit. but you need to do like 14 of these missions to properly equip anaconda without engineering it. you can do instead 200 of these missions and buy fleet carrier with some modules and eoungh fuel to poke the space and still have few months of maintenance payments. or you can buy tons of meta-alloys and donate them to thargoids.

trade between two players is possible using fleet carrier but its dangerous as fdevs very often ban the "traders" for suspected real-money-trade that is agaist ED tos/eula..

 

[Cmdr Sharky]

you read it wrong way..you only pay for the metals/minerals once,wingmates dont need to buy. ill say in numbers

Yeah I got that. One person pays, all cash in.

1. you take the bertrandite/gold/silver mission that is for wings then you invite friends to team,be sure that team members are in same system as you!
2. you fly next station to buy the bertrandite/gold/silver.
3, you fly back to station that gave you mission, you transfer the goods now.
4. dont complete mission yet,instead goto transactions tab where missions are displayed,select mission then hit the "share mission"
5. wait until team members accept shared mission,once they confirm they accepted mission you complete on your side then they can complete theirs.

Can't Step 4 be done earlier, sharing at the start? Or does this allow you to do multiple wing missions as only one can be shared at a time, so you rota-share just before handing in each one?

 

[Scary Asp Explorer]

if you hit share and complete mission before they accept the shared mission then that mission disappears from their transaction tab.

 

[A10A]

A well-thought-out (and documented) piece of benevolent information. Thank you.

Why anyone would want a fleet carrier escapes me. Cool, for sure. A mobile garage. Great jump range (for as long as you can replenish your fuel supply of tritium). Bragging rights. Yessir. But upkeep? Even when you are taking a break from the game? No. They do not even remotely have the utility value (IMHO).

 

[Scary Asp Explorer]

well fleet carrier in current time means,luxury,prestige. you also dont have to buy it. you can use all that billions to properly fit your ships too. run plenty of credit donation missions, buy meta alloys and donate them to thargoids and sush. ..i dont plan to buy the carrier,instead max fit ships without engineering them yet..

i made this guide to those who want the fleet carrier because of that prestige,indeed fleet carriers are useful for wings too. there are few groups that fill carriers with minerals and metals and mass-run the mining rush missions for max profit.

im working on guide where to fly for mining rush missions for wings right now so ill post separate guide.

 

[Cmdr Sharky]

I really like the fleet carriers that are parked at my mining system and buying Platinum, Osmium, Samarium, and Painite at decent price. 250K for platinum is okay, you can get better price elsewhere but it's so easy to drop all materials in one place without jumping around.

 

[GroG79]

Getting a FC is just a lot of work.

Dont grind CMDRs! It is not worth it

 

[Scary Asp Explorer]

yes its needed to have another 5b in pocket. so carrier 5b and outfitting another 3b and 2b for maintenance fees. plus need make credits still for future upkeep payments.

as for grinding for fleet carrier,for solo usage nope. its waste of time. you want to have decent squadron for this to work,also tritium cost is insane.. colonia trip from bubble will cost about 500 million credits in stored tritium,yes mining tritium is possible but takes time. but anyway if someone is decided to get the FC anyway robigo runs will take forever. to buy carrier just complete eoungh bertrandite mining missions.

well people in wing will have clear profit from shared mission because mission owner need to buy the bertrandite so he loses like 12% of profit per mission. while wing member takes 100% so someone who accepted shared bertrandite missions, after 100 of those he can purchase clean carrier hull. if he complete shared 200 bertrandite missions he will have eoungh for fitting the carrier,tritium and few months of maintenance. mission owner need do 240 bertrandite missions

this is only when mission owner has maxed out reputation with all factions that handout missions in station. so max reputation is 50million payout.

 

[Imo]

ask a good rich friend to give ya 5 billion for a carrier. that s the fastest way to get one.

 

[Scary Asp Explorer]

and fastest way to get banned for suspected real money trade (RMT) fdevs now ban carrier trades alot these times even if there was no rmt,they still claim there was. so carrier trade is a nono.

either blow up thargoids for few months day after day. explore galaxy for few years.

the bertrandite way is actually safest and fastest,requires only some investments (type 8 or type 9 plus spare credits for bertrandite).

 

[Imo]

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