Ian Phillips
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To try to attempt to claim that most people picked it up for the singleplay is just not something that you can back up.
FD: Apparently Elite got noticed, not in a good way
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To try to attempt to claim that most people picked it up for the singleplay is just not something that you can back up.
No pictures no proof
I played in Open religiously for the first two months happily building up my position. Then, because of several interdictions, I lost over 25,000,000 worth of ships and cargo in a two hour time span. One more death would have put me back in a Sidewinder.
I'm glad you've been lucky. However, I assure you it is no myth. Lot's of people think it can't happen to them, until it does.
May your luck continue.
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Yeh well i heard from my little sister that an aggressive group of players from my little pony online are going to launch an all out assault on the elite universe, they are apparently amassing near the horse head nebula so be careful out there.
Shar
PS you didn't here it from me.
Shar
PS you didn't here it from me.
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Muahahah these guys are funny idiots. First by trying to achieve that kind of things, secondly because Solo is the ultimate anti-idiot weapon. At least they are gonna give us some fresh meat to legitimately grind 
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Open is not that Dangerous. At least not to everyone. Those complaining are, understandably, those losing a lot. Which makes me think: how do you lose 25m? Well for a lot of people that would be the value of their cargo, which means they are traders. And a lot of them enjoy flying without shields and following busy trade lines with an obvious disregard for safety. So Open is not that Dangerous, it is more the pilots that are acting recklessly.
I am not saying Open is never dangerous, but all in all it is not that bad: pilots just need to fly with insurance, to stop using super busy lanes with pirates, to avoid hot systems like Lave, to refrain from putting all their assets in cargo that might get stolen and there it is: a less dangerous Open.
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Open is not that Dangerous. At least not to everyone. Those complaining are, understandably, those losing a lot. Which makes me think: how do you lose 25m? Well for a lot of people that would be the value of their cargo, which means they are traders. And a lot of them enjoy flying without shields and following busy trade lines with an obvious disregard for safety. So Open is not that Dangerous, it is more the pilots that are acting recklessly.
I am not saying Open is never dangerous, but all in all it is not that bad: pilots just need to fly with insurance, to stop using super busy lanes with pirates, to avoid hot systems like Lave, to refrain from putting all their assets in cargo that might get stolen and there it is: a less dangerous Open.
Muahahah these guys are funny idiots. First by trying to achieve that kind of things, secondly because Solo is the ultimate anti-idiot weapon. At least they are gonna give us some fresh meat to legitimately grind
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Open is not that Dangerous. At least not to everyone. Those complaining are, understandably, those losing a lot. Which makes me think: how do you lose 25m? Well for a lot of people that would be the value of their cargo, which means they are traders. And a lot of them enjoy flying without shields and following busy trade lines with an obvious disregard for safety. So Open is not that Dangerous, it is more the pilots that are acting recklessly.
I am not saying Open is never dangerous, but all in all it is not that bad: pilots just need to fly with insurance, to stop using super busy lanes with pirates, to avoid hot systems like Lave, to refrain from putting all their assets in cargo that might get stolen and there it is: a less dangerous Open.
That's exactly the problem. This game is EASY MODE. Those who are caught out losing their entire net worth in inventory or not designing ship loadouts that can withstand even a minor pounding need to adjust their game play. PVP exists in open. The whole idea that 'I'm going to take my toys and go play by myself because pvp' is really puerile.
This is spot on. I play as a BH (mostly) and the only interaction I have with traders is at stations as a rule, however I feel an incredible urge to melt "FIT SHIELDS" with a beam laser into the hull of any unshielded player vessel I see.
It's not just the shields, it's also a learning thing. If you got interdicted, submitted, then charged the fsd for a system jump there's no masslock. But there's very little chance for traders to learn this sort of thing. From a pirates perspective, it's very easy to learn. 'Why the hell did that T-9 jut get away from my cobra, I was right on top of him?' But the trader is just trying to jump. If he gets away then he's not gonna ask those questions, he's just gonna breath a sigh of relief.
I can't really give anyone "proof" but people in this thread may be interested in this Dread P1r4te video where after being rammed at a station he has fun messing with the griefers.
here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tstA_ljGsvU
There seems to be a gang of ships together that take turns in ramming people as they leave the station, they're not too bright though...
here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tstA_ljGsvU
There seems to be a gang of ships together that take turns in ramming people as they leave the station, they're not too bright though...
Must be a whole lot of players from Eve green with envy over ED's success! That and they apparently don't have real lives running in the back ground.
Some of us warned about this a year back. It was always inevitable that some of the destructive metagaming from EVE would come here. Some will feel the game is a threat. The Goons have a long history of trying to wreck games too, I don't know if they are trying their hand here specifically.
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nats
Banned
Who cares, really. Eve is a dead game anyway.
Let’s see if i understand this correctly a large group of EVE's players all paid £40-$60 to Frontier to Login and play elite in order to kill elite off??
Bearing in mind the time they would have to spend grinding their way up to a decent level in order to go on hunting sprees. Sounds like there backing it by proxy to me especially if there gunna get bored after a while and give up!!
Maybe we should be encouraging them! You know i wouldn’t made seeing a swam of 10,000 EVE branded sidewinders coming at me from time to time!
(Prepairing to enter the EVE Nebula Sir, Confirmed get all these bugs off my Windshield)
Bearing in mind the time they would have to spend grinding their way up to a decent level in order to go on hunting sprees. Sounds like there backing it by proxy to me especially if there gunna get bored after a while and give up!!
Maybe we should be encouraging them! You know i wouldn’t made seeing a swam of 10,000 EVE branded sidewinders coming at me from time to time!
(Prepairing to enter the EVE Nebula Sir, Confirmed get all these bugs off my Windshield)
Putting aside pointless griefing at newb spawn-systems (being probably incredibly boring waiting for anyone to show up), the entire concept seems flawed from the outset...
People who play ED in Open are obviously aware that they can be PvP'd or arbitrarily griefed, or will learn very quickly.
If a player is not into PvP combat, what possible attraction is there to playing in Open? Other human players offer no benefit, just possible problems, so why would they ever bother?
Wings allows you to play with your mates, so Open seems utterly pointless unless you're actually looking for trouble.
It seems like a lot of hyperbole from a bunch of EvE players that simply don't understand the dynamics of ED, and would fail miserably to have any meaningful impact, quickly becoming bored and frustrated.
People who play ED in Open are obviously aware that they can be PvP'd or arbitrarily griefed, or will learn very quickly.
If a player is not into PvP combat, what possible attraction is there to playing in Open? Other human players offer no benefit, just possible problems, so why would they ever bother?
Wings allows you to play with your mates, so Open seems utterly pointless unless you're actually looking for trouble.
It seems like a lot of hyperbole from a bunch of EvE players that simply don't understand the dynamics of ED, and would fail miserably to have any meaningful impact, quickly becoming bored and frustrated.
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Well it is not what I meant. You can make ED rather hard but like any other sandbox game it depends on what your goals are and how you do it. Go trade near Lave or just start messing with authorities in busy systems and get a high bounty on yourself, you will so how uneasy this game can be.
Besides, I don't want to be rude but the "putting the blame on people playing by themselves" is more puerile that what you are pointing out. Open Play has been designed to allow people to play the way they want without withstanding other players. I don't see why playing alone would be puerile or not legitimate: FD decided to make a game offering possibilities, and players are taking advantage of it.
My point was that a lot of players complaining about how dangerous Open Play is are actually acting recklessly (and inadvertently I suppose). ED is not too easy or too hard, it just brings consequences based on your actions most of the time.
It ain't called Elite Dangerous for nothin'!!!!
Honestly I've been playing in open mode since launch and I've only really been griefed once, in Lave. I've had a few commanders pull me out of supercruise but I've always gotten away other than that one time. For the most part I'm out exploring in remote areas of space so I guess my odds of being griefed are lower than it is for most to begin with.
These Eve peeps will of course start out in sidewinders with 1000cr and they'll need to play a bit to build up to a status that even CAN grief anyone other than newbies. Maybe along the way they'll actually enjoy playing Elite and change their attitudes?
Even if your [redacted] acquaintances numbered in the hundreds and spent twenty seven hours a day blowing up noobies in Sidewinders, they would do little more than scratch the new player base.
Game has too large a population and is too heavily instanced to have much success with what you describe.
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