FD you have a lot to answer for!

That's what I find funny about people buying PS4 Pro (if they already own PS4) and some fairly expensive 4K TVs. If I had that kind of cash to throw at ED, I'd invest it in a PC with VR.

They might not want to maintain a PC; cost is one thing, but having to maintain a Windows PC is another cost in time (and sometimes sanity).
 
They might not want to maintain a PC; cost is one thing, but having to maintain a Windows PC is another cost in time (and sometimes sanity).

You're preaching to the choir, mate, but... Virtual Reality.... Oooooohhhhhhh. Mamma Mia, if I had the cash (and spousal approval), I'd suffer through Windows 10 to BE in my ship...

But since I don't have the cash, I'm very happy with my inexpensive (relatively) PS4 Slim and older but still very nice gaming monitor.
 
You're preaching to the choir, mate, but... Virtual Reality.... Oooooohhhhhhh. Mamma Mia, if I had the cash (and spousal approval), I'd suffer through Windows 10 to BE in my ship...

Have you tried VR? I got a fairly good headset that I could slip my phone in and whilst it's new and exciting, it's not something I would feel comfortable in for hours on end. I know we keep being told that improvements in quality will make that better and I can sort of see what they are saying.

I love technology, I embrace change but I'm not really sure I want to get hooked on VR.
 
You're preaching to the choir, mate, but... Virtual Reality.... Oooooohhhhhhh. Mamma Mia, if I had the cash (and spousal approval), I'd suffer through Windows 10 to BE in my ship...

But since I don't have the cash, I'm very happy with my inexpensive (relatively) PS4 Slim and older but still very nice gaming monitor.

On contraire, I've more than enought to afford the bigest and badest gaming pc, but chose the ps4 for the simplicity. Just plug it in and play. I mean if doing the laundry was your assignment and it might be, I don't know you. Would you rather have an state of the art atomatic washer or any old ringer washer. Would you rather hangs cloths in the sunlight or throw them in a atomatic dryier. Gaming on pc's was first, but, slowly they are being phased out. Due primerally to cost and efficence. Consoles don't have much further to go when they will surpase pc's. Your on the band wagon already, enjoy the ride, it's gonna get smoother.
 
Have you tried VR? I got a fairly good headset that I could slip my phone in and whilst it's new and exciting, it's not something I would feel comfortable in for hours on end. I know we keep being told that improvements in quality will make that better and I can sort of see what they are saying.

I love technology, I embrace change but I'm not really sure I want to get hooked on VR.

Mobile VR is quite a different experience to full VR setups in my opinion but it gives you a good idea of what you get.

I've played PSVR (I did about 5 hours in a stint as my mate let me borrow his) and some of the experiences were absolutely phenomenal! However lots of it was just 'okay' too. There are some inherent tech issues to resolve to get it working better, in fact there are some inherent issues with it at all that hamstring it a bit. But I think something like Elite which is from a fixed cockpit with realistic immersion is about as perfect a game as you could hope for to get VR really working well. Certainly the two friends I have with an Oculus and Vive both rate it very highly.

For me the long term VR prospect is that it will be great for some games, it won't make all games great.

As for my actual setup, I'm running a PS4 (1st gen brick) and PC monitor in the man cave. Used to be really into my gaming PC builds at uni, etc... but don't have the time, inclination, space to really go for it again and do the full VR thing. Maybe once my lad has grown up and left home (it'll be a while, he's 1 :| )
 
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Do you mind me asking how old you are FFN? How did you feel 'coming out' after five hours of VR?

Not at all, I'm 35.

During the first hour I took a short break towards the end. Partially because it was hot, but also because I did one of the BBC Click VR videos which had some weird movement in towards the end and I got an ever so slight motion sickness feeling. My mate (who owned it) said it was better to take a quick break rather than trying to power through. After that I played pretty much straight through with no issues. I came out to change games as I preferred the normal 2D environment for navigating menus, etc... and also to chat to my mate about what to play next (conversing with someone while wearing it is weird!!!). Also you have to make sure the cables we in a good place to start the next game as they can get tangled up a bit (on that note wireless will be a godsend!), but all in I was probably out for max 2-3 mins a time and the rest was spent plugged in and gaming.

All in all I thought it was an excellent experience and I was tempted to buy one afterwards. Some of the things you can do are mind-blowing (genuinely the biggest rush of 'wow' I've had in gaming for a long long time), but equally some stuff was just 'okay' and I didn't feel it gave me more than a conventional game would. The big issue for me is the lack of proper titles available, the short 'experiences' that have been released are sometimes brilliant, but I'm not sure I'd play them enough to justify the hardware once the initial 'ooooh' had worn off, however I think something like Elite would potentially give me that. Until then I won't be investing.

One thing I'd say finally is that I understand the VR experience can be quite a personal thing. I had very little problems but another of my friends literally can't go 10 minutes in the headset before feeling a bit nauseous, so maybe try and get some time hands-on with one to see how you fair.

Sorry, rambled on a bit there. :S Hope some of it is useful.
 
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