FDev- Yes or No - Are we ever going to get basic functionality out of the mission board?

How do expect FDev to take the community seriously when people constantly talk in such in such exaggerated and disingenuous terms? Besides as Ian Doncaster mentioned, which people do FDev listen to? These forums never even come close to reaching a general consensus on any issue.
ohh yes they doo!
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These forums never even come close to reaching a general consensus on any issue.

I think that's mostly true, but I would have a stab that one issue everyone agreed on was that the beige plague was a bit crap - many people might have gone 'Meh, don't care' but I don't think anyone particularly went about screaming that all planets being beige was the best and they would cry if planets and moons were made more varied - beyond that then yeah, any complaint or suggestion made will usually end up with a chorus of superfans or trolls stating everything is awesome, it's all be design and you're doing it wrong if you disagree.

This may be true in some cases of course, and we do tend to get alot of folks who get super upset and noisy about pretty much anything, but I suppose that's the spectrum isn't it, you get folks who whine that something minor is gamebreaking on one extreme and then you get those who think FD can do no wrong at all ever on the other extreme.
 
How do expect FDev to take the community seriously when people constantly talk in such in such exaggerated and disingenuous terms? Besides as Ian Doncaster mentioned, which people do FDev listen to? These forums never even come close to reaching a general consensus on any issue.

Not sure which part of my observation was disingenuous, care to point out?
And yes, the last sentence is precisely what I mean.
 
I recently went to support a faction at war- shock and surprise, there are ZERO massacre missions to support this faction. There are no combat missions AT ALL. Their opposition has a board full of massacre and combat missions (of course). So it's not an issue of lag between mission boards and system state.

Stop this. Seriously. Stop this. The missions given by a faction should reflect their state. Always. 100%. All the time. Immediately.

We should be able to just pick the mission type we want from a drop down menu. But if you can't do that, at least make sure the system you've set up works coherently.

*drops mic*


Missions are to move the BGS...not sure what else can be said. Pick one that moves the influence in the correct way...and move those PVE trophies!

Also depends on your rep in the system:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...stion-War-State-Massacre-Mission-availability

If you beleive there is a problem, file a bug report...and it will get fixed Soon™
 
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Sometimes, seeing responses like some of the above, I can't help but actually understand why the game has so many issues.
Community, instead of being united and trying to actively find solution propositions for Frontier to consider, is busy arguing among themselves about validity of anyone's thesis that something's wrong / needs some love.

No wonder they're not keen on fully listening to a bunch of arguing children that can't even respect one's different opinion, let alone come up with cohesive alternatives to game's shortcomings.

See threads like this, with half of responses being "forum-daddery". And you expect Frontier to take us collectively seriously? Yeah right...

But you think FD would listen to insults? Half of these responses are forum-brattery.
 
I can't believe there are actually people defending this issue like it's ok as it is, for example "just do this work around where you have to take a mission from opposing faction then go fight and wait for a message to appear. Now we can forget there's even a problem yes?". NO!

This is obviously an issue with the way RNG works on the mission board, the same reason Rank up missions were not being generated. Any right minded individual would surely agree that these missions (and others) should be available to take, all of the time. Why are there people that don't even seem to acknowledge this?
 
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Mission Board content really does need a proper discussion, but hyperbole and the usual "my system is fine, you are just wrong" are just preventing anything meaningfull

Try an Election where 9 of the 12 missions are Illegal Combat in another system repeatedly for the full duration.
 
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It's a known issue since 2.4. Was seemingly meant to be fixed in 3.0, wasn't, still waiting for the fix. It's not just massacre missions. Some factions simply spawn no war-theme missions at all (not that they count towards influence gains, but there's a variety of material impacts this is supposed to cause, but doesn't)

e.g Note this faction is at war and has a variety of war theme missions, noting the flavour text of "Strategic Data Transfer" or "Wartime Surface Target Scan"
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While this faction also at war, only offers "Courier Delivery Jobs". You'll never see any war-theme missions (and therefore, no massacre missions for the target faction) because of that.

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Try an Election where 9 of the 12 missions are Illegal Combat in another system repeatedly for the full duration. If you know the BGS, you know they are pointless.

I'd double check that if I were you. *Missions* count in Election, regardless of what they are. Combat Bonds, bounties and the BGS effect of killing ships in general (where it usually causes a small loss of influence) won't have an impact on an election.

But the actual completion of the missions will count. At least, we certainly did a bunch of Assasination missions to win our last election.

Call it an inconsistency if you like, but "Missions" help during an election, regardless of their type... the BGS won't distinguish. i.e Missions != "combat actions", which are the things that don't count.
 
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I can't believe there are actually people defending this issue like it's ok as it is, for example "just do this work around where you have to take a mission from opposing faction then go fight and wait for a message to appear. Now we can forget there's even a problem yes?". NO!

This is obviously an issue with the way RNG works on the mission board, the same reason Rank up missions were not being generated. Any right minded individual would surely agree that these missions (and others) should be available to take, all of the time. Why are there people that don't even seem to acknowledge this?
Steady tiger! since when has a hopefully helpful suggestion been 'defending this issue' . Acknowledgement of an issue is inherent to offering a possible workaround.
 
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Steady tiger! since when has a hopefully helpful suggestion been 'defending this issue' . Acknowledgement of an issue is inherent to offering a possible workaround.

Sorry Oldric, it was probably the following comments after yours that were more dismissive of the problem. Didn't mean to target yours specifically.
 

Jex =TE=

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Sometimes, seeing responses like some of the above, I can't help but actually understand why the game has so many issues.
Community, instead of being united and trying to actively find solution propositions for Frontier to consider, is busy arguing among themselves about validity of anyone's thesis that something's wrong / needs some love.

No wonder they're not keen on fully listening to a bunch of arguing children that can't even respect one's different opinion, let alone come up with cohesive alternatives to game's shortcomings.

See threads like this, with half of responses being "forum-daddery". And you expect Frontier to take us collectively seriously? Yeah right...

Exactly - people who don't play games decide to reply to a post where the OP has pointed out the awful UI that you just don't get in other games (except GTA V lol). Not only that, but they need to be rude about it too.
 
Sometimes, seeing responses like some of the above, I can't help but actually understand why the game has so many issues.
Community, instead of being united and trying to actively find solution propositions for Frontier to consider, is busy arguing among themselves about validity of anyone's thesis that something's wrong / needs some love.

No wonder they're not keen on fully listening to a bunch of arguing children that can't even respect one's different opinion, let alone come up with cohesive alternatives to game's shortcomings.

Have to agree with this, I'm afraid.

The people dismissing the OP's criticism are actually just providing "workarounds" for a thing which apparently ISN'T working correctly.

TBH, I'm getting sick to bleedin' death of noticing things that don't work properly in ED, only to be told "Oh, well, you just need to do X and Y instead and it isn't a problem".
Yes, it IS a problem if a thing isn't working correctly - even if doing X and Y circumvents that problem.
 
...being united and trying to actively find solution propositions for Frontier to consider...

while I generally have a certain tendency to agree with you I'd say it's not like there hasn't been a long history of FDev ignoring actual constructive input from "the community". And in this thread I do appreciate that people are not just criticising the slightly "ranty" post but are giving advice on how to fix the issue. Isn't that at least a little nice? [yesnod]
 
So raise a bug report if you think it's not working as intended, not this claptrap.

Bug reports and crash reports always get submitted where necessary so wind your neck in.

Discussing issues on the forums helps raise awareness of those issues and makes us all aware of how widespread a problem is.

This is not "claptrap".

Your own post, however, most certainly IS.
 

Jex =TE=

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I can't believe there are actually people defending this issue like it's ok as it is, for example "just do this work around where you have to take a mission from opposing faction then go fight and wait for a message to appear. Now we can forget there's even a problem yes?". NO!

This is obviously an issue with the way RNG works on the mission board, the same reason Rank up missions were not being generated. Any right minded individual would surely agree that these missions (and others) should be available to take, all of the time. Why are there people that don't even seem to acknowledge this?

Oh, you're fairly new here?
 
Bug reports and crash reports always get submitted where necessary so wind your neck in.

Discussing issues on the forums helps raise awareness of those issues and makes us all aware of how widespread a problem is.

This is not "claptrap".

Your own post, however, most certainly IS.

I'm not describing the problem (if it is one), I'm describing the style in which is has been written.

If it has been raised several times then surely FDev are aware of it. Posting a chase up in one of those threads would be the right way to go about it, not surly demands like the OP.
 
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