Completely agree with this. Unfortunately I don’t think FD have any intention of making that game. Some people enjoy this sort of game and more power to them, but I’m just about done with it all. It’s a glorified electronic table-top game and at this point I’m willing to wait for other space sim type games.
Feeling concerned for the game.
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Completely agree with this. Unfortunately I don’t think FD have any intention of making that game. Some people enjoy this sort of game and more power to them, but I’m just about done with it all. It’s a glorified electronic table-top game and at this point I’m willing to wait for other space sim type games.
Your concern is noted, and discarded since:
Welcome to what we have been saying since the game launched.
PS: the dev's might BE 20-somethings, and therefore controlled by the Nintendo-Hard Space Loaches.
Plus, they're British, so there has to be an unhappy ending.
With a Killer DM.
Possible.
And just as disheartening as a deliberate feature. Another player lost, due to instancing, and hubris.
Blackcompany
Banned
Pretty much mirrors my feelings as well.
I came for the vision quoted in my signature. And not have FDEV not delivered on that vision...they have not even TRIED to deliver on that promise.
Hopefully, someone else will. Some day. But I dont think it will be this game, from this team.
I was enjoying ED until the latest update, it had flaws but the on the whole I could find plenty to keep my interest. At least it wasn't riddled with bugs.
I enjoyed the original version of Elite on the BBC micro, and I can see that the core idea has been retained. I do however agree with the OP. This latest patch is an omni-shambles, now they have lost the servers as well. It simply isn't good enough to make such a poorly documented and signfiicant change to the game, which makes various aspects unplayable and leaves users hunting around for explanations of bizzar new rules. If this carries on, I'll return to flight simming and wait for a more stable space sim.
As well as power play being nerfed, the intricacies of C&P and engineering are spoiling things. I shouldn't need a masters degree in ED to understand the rules, and they aren't even set out clearly.
Poor show Frontier, you need to get your act together IMO.
I'll tell that to my customer base tomorrow. "Don;t worry we'll sort it out in a few months, it's same with all tech it never works right at the beginning! "
There's a reason where I work we have test labs, quality assurance labs. It's because we want to be professional not look like amateurs.
First off - You are right, you shouldn't be attacked during transition. If you died submit a bug-report and ticket to get it investigated and your credits refunded.
That being said:
-Threat level is accurate, you were complacent.
-FDS is really weak on shields and thargoids eat hull like I eat jaffa cakes. Kinda obvious whats gonna happen.
-Thargoids were designed to be very dangerous/difficult. From an outside perspective they are meant to be wing content or exceptionally skilled/outfitted content. As you are not either of those the outcome should not surprise you.
What you've done is try to solo a raid boss then argue that the raid bosses need to be easier and manageable by a solo player. Yep, thats why i'm shaking my head in confusion. Elite, despite not being an MMO, was marketed as one and retains some MMO bits. You've tried to play it solo and, well, you have the results.. At least you've realised that NHSS are not for you until you get in the biggest ships or change your stance. Mobius PG is good for finding people to do thargoid missions with.
If you don't do it as intended you shouldn't argue that it isn't working and needs to change.
Personally I hope they continue to make content for all types of players including those who fly solo and those who fly winged, 99% of things in Elite are possible with both, however, that 1% does exist. You have to realise by putting yourself in one corner of the game certain things are going to be way off in other corners that you can't reach.
Also since the usual people seem to be on this thread I think I'll post this....again:
[video=youtube;DMSHvgaUWc8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMSHvgaUWc8[/video]
I first posted this in 2015 but doom has been predicted since pre-launch in 2014 iirc.
That being said:
-Threat level is accurate, you were complacent.
-FDS is really weak on shields and thargoids eat hull like I eat jaffa cakes. Kinda obvious whats gonna happen.
-Thargoids were designed to be very dangerous/difficult. From an outside perspective they are meant to be wing content or exceptionally skilled/outfitted content. As you are not either of those the outcome should not surprise you.
What you've done is try to solo a raid boss then argue that the raid bosses need to be easier and manageable by a solo player. Yep, thats why i'm shaking my head in confusion. Elite, despite not being an MMO, was marketed as one and retains some MMO bits. You've tried to play it solo and, well, you have the results.. At least you've realised that NHSS are not for you until you get in the biggest ships or change your stance. Mobius PG is good for finding people to do thargoid missions with.
If you don't do it as intended you shouldn't argue that it isn't working and needs to change.
Personally I hope they continue to make content for all types of players including those who fly solo and those who fly winged, 99% of things in Elite are possible with both, however, that 1% does exist. You have to realise by putting yourself in one corner of the game certain things are going to be way off in other corners that you can't reach.
Also since the usual people seem to be on this thread I think I'll post this....again:
[video=youtube;DMSHvgaUWc8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMSHvgaUWc8[/video]
I first posted this in 2015 but doom has been predicted since pre-launch in 2014 iirc.
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Why do you jump to the conclusion that Mohenjo is leaving/has left the game? Would you leave the game if a high threat signal source turned out to be a really difficult boss?
Hey some of us are still faithfully searching for the central black hole Breadbins has insisted over the intervening years is definitely there in FE2/FFE. Since it has to be there somewhere, i keep on looking for it.
Admittedly it's taking a few decades longer than originally anticipated, but no worries, it'll be all the more worthwhile when i eventually find it...
Because the alternative; that God lies - just lies, straight to your face - would seem so far-fetched as to be absurd.
So i'll definitely find it eventually. Just a simple process of elimination. Or maybe it moves around, or only spawns at certain times or under other special conditions..
But equally, somewhere out there in development land, even if it's only in the back of Breadbin's transmundane and inviolate mind, Elite 4 is being developed, and it's going to have real space flight with real gravity and epic, edge-of-your-seat furballs, and spacelegs, with hotels, bars and restaurants and 19 different genders of bathrooms at every port, with procedurally-detailed luscious rolling landscapes, verdant forestry, vast plantations and voluminous oceans packed with all manner of amazing unique wildlife - and yes, giant suaropods - and bluebirds swooping though fluffy white clouds over rural thatched homesteads, with craft dairies concocting every type of cheese you could shake a pharmaceutical Isolator at. So keep the faith, the Breadbins move in mysterious ways. And at least i've got FFE and a missing supermassive black hole to keep me pew pew kapow, ftanga.
Wing only territory. <shudder>
Some of you are missing my point.
What other Thargoid content is there? No matter what kind of Thargoid I encounter, there's nothing I can DO. Basilisks and Medusas, I can't affect and they slag me in seconds. The new ships are supposedly weaker, but they are in giant groups of 20ish that I can't fight with either.
So, big thargoids I can't play or small thargoids I can't play... there's NO GAME. Sure, there are lots of other things I can do. I actually enjoy the quiet of mining, or exploring, or trading, but the Thargoids are the core story of the game. Most players that come into the game are going to want to do SOMETHING with them, but can't. That will breed frustration and can't be good for the game in the long term.
I'm flexible, I have other things I enjoy, so that I can't do anything with the Thargoids is an annoyance. Other players might not feel that way, and that is why I'm concerned for the future of the game. They may be driving off players who might otherwise enjoy the game.
What other Thargoid content is there? No matter what kind of Thargoid I encounter, there's nothing I can DO. Basilisks and Medusas, I can't affect and they slag me in seconds. The new ships are supposedly weaker, but they are in giant groups of 20ish that I can't fight with either.
So, big thargoids I can't play or small thargoids I can't play... there's NO GAME. Sure, there are lots of other things I can do. I actually enjoy the quiet of mining, or exploring, or trading, but the Thargoids are the core story of the game. Most players that come into the game are going to want to do SOMETHING with them, but can't. That will breed frustration and can't be good for the game in the long term.
I'm flexible, I have other things I enjoy, so that I can't do anything with the Thargoids is an annoyance. Other players might not feel that way, and that is why I'm concerned for the future of the game. They may be driving off players who might otherwise enjoy the game.
You also made it clear in your OP that you've entered threat 5 NHSS more than once before, that's Thargoid content right there. Are you complaining that you can't defeat a Cyclops on your own? 'Cuz it sounded like you left them alone and they didn't attack you. So, yes I apparently am missing your point.
The Thargoids in the original game were feared, as I remember and its over thirty years now, you could not take them on unless you had significantly improved your ship. I am all for content like that because it adds a danger to the galaxy. The original game taught you to be careful and to consider the consequences of your actions. The only other alternative is to make the came super easy and then everyone can ping Thargoids all day and everyday like a turkey shoot.
Uninstall. Burn hard drive.
Not missing the point, just disputing it as a problem of your own making.
Short answer - If you want thargoids then wing or get a big ship. There is plenty of game that isn't thargoids. In fact they are a small part of it. One of many stories. It's like saying you want to fight thargoids but not use AX or guardian weapons and want to stick to normal lasers and multicannons.
Again, ain't gonna happen, you've limited your game by your own choices.
Instancing Hiccups/Delays is just one of a laundry list of reasons why I rarely bother playing in Open. Especially if you are doing Lone Wolf kind of activities where the chance of meeting up with another human player are slim to none anyway.
Switch to Solo. The game runs far smoother and more reliably in that mode. And you will NEVER get caught in a SC instancing goof again.
Was E
marketed as MMO? I don't think so - at least not early on. I remember the kickstarter campaign quite well and there was even talk of an offline version... (and many people backed exactly because of this proposed (I didn't say 100% promised) offline-version). What was promised, was that this game could be equally played solo or open - but this has changed it seems... which is a shame, I think.