Finding unevisited Systems

Krakenheim

Krakenheim
Hi, is there a pratical way of finding systems no-one has visited before.
The visited/unvisited filter on game map seems to be related to my commander.

Any help ? Thanks.
 

Zieman

Zieman
Avoid straight path to Colonia, nebulae & such - even a few dozen LY sidestep can lead you from "everything mapped" to "totally undiscovered".
Think 3D.
Should find totally unexplored systems surprisingly near inhabited space.
 

Hedy

H
Almost all of it is yet to be visited, though at times when you first head out it can seem quite the contrary. Once you move away from the well trodden paths and human bubble and space ports, untouched systems will populate your routes. The core is densely packed with untouched systems if you really want a endlessly rolling supply.
 

Sapyx

Sapyx
There is no guaranteed, surefire way to find unexplored systems. As you have correctly surmised, the Visited Stars filter shows stars you yourself have visited. (note that the VIsited Stars filter uses a sytem list that is saved locally on your machine, so if you switch machines or do a cold reinstallation, you will lose that data unless you back up the file).

All we can offer is general advice, similar to above: aim away from all the major tourist attractions, and travel about 1000 LY away form Sol, and you shouldn't have any trouble finding Unexplored systems.

I'd agree that a great place to find Unexplored systems is in the Core. Stars are so denslely packed there, that even in the heavily trafficked areas (like the Sag A - Colonia line), finding a star that isn't Unexplored is rare.
 

Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
LordFerret said:
I'm curious as to some of the shapes seen on that heatmap, circles and squares. How did they come to be? Are they the result of some kind of event or something?
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The dark circles with a bright border are permit-locked regions: you can't get in, but people have poked around the edges of them quite a bit.

The squares are from "sector survey" projects where commanders spent a long time flying around a single 1280x1280x1280 cube.
 

GrandAdmiralThrawn

GrandAdmiralThrawn
Also: If you see something interesting on the map or in your skybox, it's usually safe to assume that somebody else has spotted it before you, especially if its visible from far away. Go to seemingly uninteresting places.

It may also help not to follow your first intuition. Other people will have likely had the same. Like when I thought it'd be a good idea to visit the rim (Tried it several times). Should be quite dull out there with so few stars, right? But the far rim is surprisingly well-explored, at least in my experience. Maybe try the second or third route that comes to your mind, rather than the first one.
 

JustJon

J
Yeah I am on my way back from SAG A - first thing I decided to do was go as far up from the galactic plan as I could without having to really test my jump range - got to about 3k ly above but then as I made my way back to the bubble and stars got more scarce started to stumble upon more and more discovered systems.

So dropped down by about 500ly where there were more starts and thus less and less visited systems found - although randomly still found a few!

Then decided to see a nebula - started hitting visited stars about 100ly from the nebula and probably about 100ly past the nebula.

A lot of people who leave the bubble are often just going to see colonia, those nebula with bases and sag so think about where they are and avoid - in essence get off the beaten track if you want to explore new stuffsz.
 

LordFerret

LordFerret
I've been traveling around from nebula to nebula, just to go see them. I find I hit plenty of undiscovered systems. I also find that many of the systems that have already been discovered are incomplete (bodies not scanned), and many also have bodies not mapped that are worth mapping (landable high metal content, rocky/icy bodies)**.

How much time you're willing to spend in a system can impact 'discovery'... it appears many Cmdrs cruise though each system looking for specifics (ELWs and WWs), and spend little time on anything else. So just because you've run across yet another system already discovered, doesn't mean there's nothing there for you. If you enter a system and honk and it says '25 bodies', but the map only shows 20 - then get to work, they're yours.

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I'm finding that some of the landable icy bodies have POIs even though the FSS scanner says no. The POIs show up once the body has been mapped with DSS. The POIs are typically Geo. Occasionally, I'll find this also with landable high metal content bodies, and rocky ice bodies. I don't know if other Cmdrs find this as well, if it's a bug or what, but it has earned me discovery and Codex credits.
 

marx

marx
LordFerret said:
I'm finding that some of the landable icy bodies have POIs even though the FSS scanner says no. The POIs show up once the body has been mapped with DSS. The POIs are typically Geo. Occasionally, I'll find this also with landable high metal content bodies, and rocky ice bodies. I don't know if other Cmdrs find this as well, if it's a bug or what, but it has earned me discovery and Codex credits.
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Wait, seriously? If there is a bug like this, that's pretty important. After all, who knows what else we might miss if not even the POI scan functionality is reliable.
The next time you come across such bodies, could you let us know which ones they were, so we could check if this can be reproduced?

Oh, and as for the unvisited systems: I flew around some of the real nebulae recently, and to my surprise, I still got a fair share of entirely unscanned systems. However, they're all class M and below. In any case, this is just an anecdote, but looking at such systems might still be worth it in all but the most heavily-surveyed areas. (Such as the Heart and Soul nebulae.)
 

LordFerret

LordFerret
Here's a good example of how things can get passed over... becoming opportunity for you.
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Vivacious

V
Just avoid visiting everything worth visiting. :poop:

At least if it's visible on the galmap. Managed to find (very little) untagged stuff right on the roof above the bubble and also on the way back. Also a bunch of undiscovered guardian ancient ruins close to the known places you find online. Right now I'm visiting a few nebulae and all I can hope for is to find an unmapped body somewhere in there. Usually though you can find plenty no matter where you go as long as it's far from permit locked regions and the bubble.
 
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GrandAdmiralThrawn

GrandAdmiralThrawn
It's still possible to find undiscovered systems (not just bodies) in nebulae, I've found at least one on my current trip. Must've been one or two months ago I guess. There isn't much more, because I stopped visiting larger nebulae after the first two. But most of the stars in there were discovered.

But my worst time I had going south-west from Beagle Point. It took me 6000 light years (!!) to get to an area that wasn't 95% discovered. And I even tried to sidestep a hundred lightyears, no dice. That was crazy. Must've been the path some expedition took or something.

That was reaaally disencouraging...

Edit: Here's a screenshot of the route:

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Orvidius

Orvidius
Yeah, crossing the abyss is like that. Everyone gets sent through a relatively small number of stars, and so they have been very heavily traveled.
 

ick

ick
I selected a spot on the nearby Perseus Arm that had a huge gap to cross. I think I used one jumponium mix to cross the gap quickly. When I actually made it to the arm I found nearly all systems pristine.... especially as I traveled counter-clockwise down the arm.

www.edsm.net

Also, turn off your "scoopable stars" filter if you have it turned on. That could be limiting your travel to stars everyone else is using.
 

GrandAdmiralThrawn

GrandAdmiralThrawn
Although I have to admit that I sometimes disable L/T/Y brown dwarfs and even M & K class stars, as they tend to be boring. Well, not always of course, but yeah. I especially did that when looking for high g worlds in the centre, to focus on systems with O & B stars. Currently flying without any filtering though.

Failed to find any truly interesting high g worlds however. Best was slightly over 4g.

Also still looking for: Single class M main star or a system with nothing above class M with an ELW and a similar brown dwarf system with an ELW (probably impossible?).
 

Sapyx

Sapyx
GrandAdmiralThrawn said:
...a similar brown dwarf system with an ELW (probably impossible?).
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Not impossible, but very, very improbable. Several players have dedicated months surveying thousands of brown dwarfs, searching for ELWs among them, and only found one or two between them. There's a data-dump of 180120 ELWs you can download, over on EDAstro; out of those 180120 ELWs, there are just 34 that have an L-class star as the primary star of the system, and just 20 of those are in single-star systems (ie an L-class brown dwarf is the only star in the system) - and two of those 34 are terraformed, inhabited planets in the Bubble. By comparison, there are 8354 ELWs orbiting in systems where M-class red dwarfs are the primary star.

There is even one reported ELW orbiting in a system where the primary star is a T-class brown dwarf (Aucoks DC-B a13-3); I will be calling in there on my way back Corewards, to double-check that it's not an error. No Y-class dwarf ELWs have been reported, however; pretty sure those are impossible.

Another "white whale" that some are hunting for is an ELW in a White Dwarf system; unlike neutron stars, white dwarfs have a very small, hard-to-hit Goldilocks zone. While there are 80 ELWs reported in White Dwarf systems, most of those worlds are being warmed by other stars in the system. There is only one reported in a single-white-dwarf-only system (Plimbeau DQ-G d10-1532).
 
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