You can achieve the exact same thing much easier with FA on. Just use your strafe controls.
Fixed weapons and FA off?
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Not the same ;-) Check out the videos, you'll see the difference. It has to be done at speed.
Link me the videos and i will match their actions with FA on and record a video of that.
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Ooo, a challenge, I love it
. Check out Cmdr Lancer's vid and we'll see if you can do something akin to this without FA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNg0UsoyUT0
That is 40 minutes of CQC in a condor. Could you please link a non-CQC video and point to specific segments for me to match.Ooo, a challenge, I love it
Yep, makes a big difference. I have my throttle and stick low down to the sides of my seat, allows me to keep my arms on the side rest for accurate control. Lateral thrusters through the pedals, vertical through a rocker switch.
@Op - I normally use gimbaled weapons except for ships equipped with rails. Recently been flying an Imperial Eagle with a Plasma accelerator and two fixed multi cannons, have found less is always more, don't overcontrol the ship, smooth inputs is all it takes. Nothing wrong with temporarily engaging FA, still with practice it becomes very easy to do it full FA-OFF.
@Marek - Don't know what you are on buddy, no way can you match FA-OFF flying style with assist engaged, it is a completely different type of flying style - impossible to replicate with the flight computers overriding your inputs
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Goodness, that's quite something. Can you link to it on amazon or something?
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Well I'd have to search around, and I'm at work so can't at the mo. You should be able to get a flavour of the kind of thing though no?
I'm still learning to fly FA off and I'm not that great at it but one of the things I was noticing in CQC last night was that although I wan't killing people any faster than I was before, I'm dying a whole lot less. Less engaging in straight on battles and more unpredicatable boosted movements I think..
I have my thrusters bound to my hat.
Surprised it doesn't fly off!
Ha!
Problem is I only have one hat which currently is bound to pips with thrusters on a modifier. I will swap them over and see which works better for me, I do adjust pips a bit during combat but maybe not as much as I would use thrusters if they work well at keeping targets in the sights
Decoupling rotation from direction sounds a lot like improving manœuvrability to me.
In any case the important point is that FA off is fun. It gives you the feeling of being in more control of the ship and thereby makes the experience more engaging. And if you still can't aim there's always racing.
Decoupling rotation from direction is only useful in handful of situations and with the additional loss in stability it is almost never useful. I pretty much only use it to quickly transition into flying backwards by doing a 180.
If someone does enjoy flying with FA off, that is fine. But for some people it is about bragging and pretending to be oh so 1337 much like those 360 no-scope guys in call of duty.
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I have to say, I hadn't noticed anyone bragging. I've been asking for help and others have been giving advice. If you don't think it's useful that's fine ;-)
Keep an eye out for threads by new players asking for combat advise, they love bragging in those threads pretending it is advise. I have lost count how many post gave bad advise claiming FA off improves agility, pitch speed etc by saying things like: "a type-6 can totally outmanoeuvre an eagle bro! just turn FA off and be 1337 like me bro". A myth just like the idea that better sensors improve gimballed and turreted weapon accuracy.
Well, a few overblown claims do not necessarily mean that an entire concept is false. I'm not trying to outmaneuver an eagle in a T6, I'm trying to outmaneuver an eagle in another eagle as I've observed other proficient FAoff pilots do to me on many occasions. Personally I think the video evidence (like the one I sent you), and the evidence of having fought such pilots is pretty overwhelming. There's nothing quite like the experience of flying head on at someone at 300k/h, narrowly missing them, and finding that they're still firing at you as they pass and as you try to turn to prove that FA off can work very well. As my own skill steadily increases I can also see that this slowly giving me an edge too.
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Seriously, you're actually complaining about another thread in this one. Uncool my friend uncool indeed....
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I find using a combination of FA-ON and FA-OFF is most effective, since it keeps you unpredictable. Certainly flicking FA-ON again to get a steady aim at your target will help, and I'm a big fan of fixed weapons (gimbals were a lot more powerful in beta, now they're just too wobbly for my liking).
Just search Amazon for desktop armrests and it should pop up... tried to paste a link but my PC isn't playing ball... sorry
Anyone care to have a maneuverability challenge?
Marek15 using FAON Vs someone that is proficient at FAOFF
and then post the video on here. It doesn't need to be a shoot out, just see who keeps the other in sights the longest
I am genuinely interested in the outcome of this as I am doing a little FAOFF just to get nimble ships back into view but if FAON technique can match it I would rather learn that.
Marek15, You up for it?
Anyone else?
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[Devil's advocate] Do you know that the AI doesn't use FA-off because all maneuvers can be done with FA-on? [/Devil's advocate]