Fleet Carrier guidance required.
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They have to be online for the owner to use them. However if you're a cheapskate you can turn them off every time you're not using them I believe.
Okay, got my barge.
A couple more questions...
On the Carrier Management page, it says I've got "25,000 units of free space"
Is this just for adding new modules (repair yards, shipyards etc) or is there some way I can store cargo in there?
My FC came with half a tank of gas.
I've already made a couple of jumps and then bought some Tritium to top off the tanks.
People have said I'll need ~5000t of Tritium for the trip to Colonia.
Is there any way I can store 5000t of Tritium aboard my FC or am I limited to the 1000t capacity of the main tank?
I guess I can, at least, use a T9 to store another 790t of Triuium if I have to but I'd rather not.
After buying my FC I immediately put up the "no visitors" sign.
If I decide to open my FC up to passengers, for the trip, is there any way passengers can screw me over?
I mean, could somebody show up in a T9 and remove 790t of Tritium from my tanks, for example?
Alternatively, can a visitor sabotage my FC with UAs or get it Wanted status by bringing illegal cargo aboard?
I realise there are various tools, in the Carrier Management page, I can use to help prevent bad things but is there anything I should be wary of?
Lastly, related to the above, any advice on what extra modules I should buy for the FC?
For example, if I'm taking passengers, I'll probably want to fit a Shipyard so passengers can bring more than one ship if they want to, right?
Equally, if I have to stop and mine for Tritium on the way, I guess I should probably fit a Repair Yard in case my mining ship takes damage while hunting Tritium.
Anything else?
A couple more questions...
On the Carrier Management page, it says I've got "25,000 units of free space"
Is this just for adding new modules (repair yards, shipyards etc) or is there some way I can store cargo in there?
My FC came with half a tank of gas.
I've already made a couple of jumps and then bought some Tritium to top off the tanks.
People have said I'll need ~5000t of Tritium for the trip to Colonia.
Is there any way I can store 5000t of Tritium aboard my FC or am I limited to the 1000t capacity of the main tank?
I guess I can, at least, use a T9 to store another 790t of Triuium if I have to but I'd rather not.
After buying my FC I immediately put up the "no visitors" sign.
If I decide to open my FC up to passengers, for the trip, is there any way passengers can screw me over?
I mean, could somebody show up in a T9 and remove 790t of Tritium from my tanks, for example?
Alternatively, can a visitor sabotage my FC with UAs or get it Wanted status by bringing illegal cargo aboard?
I realise there are various tools, in the Carrier Management page, I can use to help prevent bad things but is there anything I should be wary of?
Lastly, related to the above, any advice on what extra modules I should buy for the FC?
For example, if I'm taking passengers, I'll probably want to fit a Shipyard so passengers can bring more than one ship if they want to, right?
Equally, if I have to stop and mine for Tritium on the way, I guess I should probably fit a Repair Yard in case my mining ship takes damage while hunting Tritium.
Anything else?
The 25000 is all you can equip AND store.
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You can store 1000 in the Tank, the rest must be in the market.
It's advisable to fly a T9 or Cutter and put as many tritium in your ships cargo as possible, as
that is not counted towards your FC mass (making your jumps more efficient).
You need about 3300 tons of Tritium to Colonia in a lightweight carrier.
No one can screw with your carrier as long as you don't sell your Tritium via market.
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You can store 1000 in the Tank, the rest must be in the market.
It's advisable to fly a T9 or Cutter and put as many tritium in your ships cargo as possible, as
that is not counted towards your FC mass (making your jumps more efficient).
You need about 3300 tons of Tritium to Colonia in a lightweight carrier.
No one can screw with your carrier as long as you don't sell your Tritium via market.
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The 25000 is all you can equip AND store.
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You can store 1000 in the Tank, the rest must be in the cargo bay.
I'm still not sure I understand.
What cargo bay are you referring to? A ship's cargo bay or does the FC have a cargo bay somewhere?
Is an FC cargo bay something I need to buy?
It did occur to me that, with access to my FC restricted, I might be able to install a Commodity Market then buy a heap of Tritium, sell it to my FC's market and then buy it back again when I need to refuel.
I'm thinking that I probably wouldn't want to do that and then allow visitors to my FC though.
I suppose I could, theoretically, set the FC buying price for Tritium reasonable, so that visitors could sell it to bolster my stock but then set the FC selling price mega-high, so that no visitor would want to buy from my stock.
Still not keen on the idea of exposing myself to the possibility of shennanigans, though.
Is an FC's Commodity Market dynamic or is it just "procedural"?
If, for example, I sell 200t of widgets to my FC, will the Market show 200 widgets available to buy?
Or, alternatively, is it like a station market, where it just invents a quantity of widgets that are available at any given time?
Ah, right.
That actually sounds like it's been properly figured-out.
So, I jump in my Cutter, hoover up all the Tritium for sale everywhere in thre bubble, dump it into my FC's Market, set the market so it can BUY Tritium (so visitors can sell it if they want to contribute to the fuel) but not sell it.
I can then just take Tritium out of the market and bung it in the fuel tanks whenever I need to?
I guess I'll probably spend this weekend hopping around the bubble, buying Tritium and tidying up my ships, and then I'll be off to Colonia next weekend.
In case anybody else is pondering doing something similar....
I bought a Fleet carrier and a variety of services for it so I could repair, resupply and refuel ships while aboard it.
In fact, the only services I didn't purchase were Unicart, the Redemption Office and the Secure Market.
That cost me Cr5.68bn.
It was estimated that I'd need around 5,000t of Tritium fuel to reach Colonia.
I ended-up buying around 17,000t of Tritium at roughly the average price of around Cr42k/t for a total cost of ~Cr700m.
I travelled to Colonia, using around 5,500t of Tritium, valued at ~Cr230m.
In Colonia I managed to sell 1,000t of Tritium to a FC at a price of Cr80k/t, which earned me Cr80m.
Since nobody else was interested in buying Tritium for a sensible price, I dumped my remaining supply (10,500t) into a local station at a price of Cr51k/t, which earned me Cr535m.
So, I spent Cr700m on Tritium, flew to Colonia and then sold the remainder for ~Cr615m - thus the trip only cost me Cr85m instead of Cr230m in fuel.
I then decommissioned the FC and travelled back to the bubble by exploding Sidewinder.
Just got a message saying decommissioning of my FC was complete and I got Cr4.85bn refunded.
Also, as a result of owning the FC for 2 weeks, I had to pay roughly Cr42m in Upkeep costs while I owned it.
So..
Carrier costs: 5.68bn - 4.85bn = Cr830m
Fuel Costs (including sale of transported fuel): Cr85m
Upkeep Costs: Cr42m
Grand Total: Cr957m
That's a lot of credits but it would have cost me Cr3.3bn to transfer my 18 ships to Colonia, so it actually saved me around Cr2.5bn credits.
At it's simplest, a basic FC will cost you Cr5bn and it'll cost you Cr230m in fuel and Cr5m per week in upkeep to fly it to Colonia.
You'll get back ~85% of the purchase price or ~Cr4.25bn which means, again, you're looking at the thick end of Cr1bn overall.
To put that in perspective, it's about the same as it costs to transfer a single Corvette or Cutter from the Bubble to Colonia.
So, yeah.
Not cheap but worth it overall.
I bought a Fleet carrier and a variety of services for it so I could repair, resupply and refuel ships while aboard it.
In fact, the only services I didn't purchase were Unicart, the Redemption Office and the Secure Market.
That cost me Cr5.68bn.
It was estimated that I'd need around 5,000t of Tritium fuel to reach Colonia.
I ended-up buying around 17,000t of Tritium at roughly the average price of around Cr42k/t for a total cost of ~Cr700m.
I travelled to Colonia, using around 5,500t of Tritium, valued at ~Cr230m.
In Colonia I managed to sell 1,000t of Tritium to a FC at a price of Cr80k/t, which earned me Cr80m.
Since nobody else was interested in buying Tritium for a sensible price, I dumped my remaining supply (10,500t) into a local station at a price of Cr51k/t, which earned me Cr535m.
So, I spent Cr700m on Tritium, flew to Colonia and then sold the remainder for ~Cr615m - thus the trip only cost me Cr85m instead of Cr230m in fuel.
I then decommissioned the FC and travelled back to the bubble by exploding Sidewinder.
Just got a message saying decommissioning of my FC was complete and I got Cr4.85bn refunded.
Also, as a result of owning the FC for 2 weeks, I had to pay roughly Cr42m in Upkeep costs while I owned it.
So..
Carrier costs: 5.68bn - 4.85bn = Cr830m
Fuel Costs (including sale of transported fuel): Cr85m
Upkeep Costs: Cr42m
Grand Total: Cr957m
That's a lot of credits but it would have cost me Cr3.3bn to transfer my 18 ships to Colonia, so it actually saved me around Cr2.5bn credits.
At it's simplest, a basic FC will cost you Cr5bn and it'll cost you Cr230m in fuel and Cr5m per week in upkeep to fly it to Colonia.
You'll get back ~85% of the purchase price or ~Cr4.25bn which means, again, you're looking at the thick end of Cr1bn overall.
To put that in perspective, it's about the same as it costs to transfer a single Corvette or Cutter from the Bubble to Colonia.
So, yeah.
Not cheap but worth it overall.
You bought too expensive. Using 4k prices (takes some time) you cut your costs to ~70million.In case anybody else is pondering doing something similar....
I bought a Fleet carrier and a variety of services for it so I could repair, resupply and refuel ships while aboard it.
In fact, the only services I didn't purchase were Unicart, the Redemption Office and the Secure Market.
That cost me Cr5.68bn.
It was estimated that I'd need around 5,000t of Tritium fuel to reach Colonia.
I ended-up buying around 17,000t of Tritium at roughly the average price of around Cr42k/t for a total cost of ~Cr700m.
I travelled to Colonia, using around 5,500t of Tritium, valued at ~Cr230m.
In Colonia I managed to sell 1,000t of Tritium to a FC at a price of Cr80k/t, which earned me Cr80m.
Since nobody else was interested in buying Tritium for a sensible price, I dumped my remaining supply (10,500t) into a local station at a price of Cr51k/t, which earned me Cr535m.
So, I spent Cr700m on Tritium, flew to Colonia and then sold the remainder for ~Cr615m - thus the trip only cost me Cr85m instead of Cr230m in fuel.
I then decommissioned the FC and travelled back to the bubble by exploding Sidewinder.
Just got a message saying decommissioning of my FC was complete and I got Cr4.85bn refunded.
Also, as a result of owning the FC for 2 weeks, I had to pay roughly Cr42m in Upkeep costs while I owned it.
So..
Carrier costs: 5.68bn - 4.85bn = Cr830m
Fuel Costs (including sale of transported fuel): Cr85m
Upkeep Costs: Cr42m
Grand Total: Cr957m
That's a lot of credits but it would have cost me Cr3.3bn to transfer my 18 ships to Colonia, so it actually saved me around Cr2.5bn credits.
At it's simplest, a basic FC will cost you Cr5bn and it'll cost you Cr230m in fuel and Cr5m per week in upkeep to fly it to Colonia.
You'll get back ~85% of the purchase price or ~Cr4.25bn which means, again, you're looking at the thick end of Cr1bn overall.
To put that in perspective, it's about the same as it costs to transfer a single Corvette or Cutter from the Bubble to Colonia.
So, yeah.
Not cheap but worth it overall.
Any "Somebody elses" would need to have a shipyard on your carrier to be able to transfer more than one ship.
How long is it going to take to scrape together at least 5,000t of Tritium from places selling small quantities cheaply?
To be (very) charitable, let's say it takes 10 hours.
That's 10 hours I could spend mining instead, and earn Cr2bn.
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Just look for refinery+drought systems, there is plenty of cheap stuff about. Don’t run EDMC unless you want everyone else to come and buy it. 5,000t should take a couple of hours or so to find and load. At 4000cr per tonne that’s 20 million cr or so.How long is it going to take to scrape together at least 5,000t of Tritium from places selling small quantities cheaply?
To be (very) charitable, let's say it takes 10 hours.
That's 10 hours I could spend mining instead, and earn Cr2bn.
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This.
Load up on as much Trit as you can, in Sol, then sell for at least 97,000cr/ ton.
Once you get to Colonia and have transferred your ships to a station there, decom the fleet carrier because getting Tritium in Colonia is highway robbery and a headache lol.
Just look for refinery+drought systems, there is plenty of cheap stuff about. Don’t run EDMC unless you want everyone else to come and buy it. 5,000t should take a couple of hours or so to find and load. At 4000cr per tonne that’s 20 million cr or so.
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Yeah, it's all small potatos, though, innit?
Who's got time to scrape around looking for cheap petrol just to save a couple of hundred million credits?
Except that nobody in Colonia seems to want to BUY imported Tritium.
They'd rather just bleat on Twitter about how there's no large-pad stations selling thousands of tonnes of Tritium for Cr4k/t.
Here's why you're never going to get the dynamic economy you want...
I arrived in Colonia last night and promptly set about flogging the Tritium I'd brought with me. I did some ciggy-packet maths and calculated that Cr80k/t was a reasonable price to sell it for, accounting for what I spent bringing it to Colonia, paying FC upkeep fees etc. Boy, you should have...
...and I can't get cheese, sweetened bread (not brains) and giant ice cream cones like I used to get in the azores. They'll have to learn to cope.Except that nobody in Colonia seems to want to BUY imported Tritium.
They'd rather just bleat on Twitter about how there's no large-pad stations selling thousands of tonnes of Tritium for Cr4k/t.
Here's why you're never going to get the dynamic economy you want...
I arrived in Colonia last night and promptly set about flogging the Tritium I'd brought with me. I did some ciggy-packet maths and calculated that Cr80k/t was a reasonable price to sell it for, accounting for what I spent bringing it to Colonia, paying FC upkeep fees etc. Boy, you should have...forums.frontier.co.uk
Except that nobody in Colonia seems to want to BUY imported Tritium.
They'd rather just bleat on Twitter about how there's no large-pad stations selling thousands of tonnes of Tritium for Cr4k/t.
Here's why you're never going to get the dynamic economy you want...
I arrived in Colonia last night and promptly set about flogging the Tritium I'd brought with me. I did some ciggy-packet maths and calculated that Cr80k/t was a reasonable price to sell it for, accounting for what I spent bringing it to Colonia, paying FC upkeep fees etc. Boy, you should have...
Oh I don't know. If you undercut the high sellers there, the ones selling it for 149,000cr-249,000cr, either those scalpers were buy it up and sell it high, or someone in need will. But you could be right! it just depends. Most people just seem to get to Colonia and then decom the carrier, as opposed spending a high rate for tritium. This is where decom has become a blessing that nobody expected it to be. At first everyone gave FDev flack for having the option, but now it's a useful and strategic tool LOL