Fleet Carrier Supply SLF/SRV

[JohnnyDangerous]

I thought my lack of available options on my carrier was a bug, but was told by Frontier that it was intended and to add this suggestion here.

On board a carrier, one can RE-supply their SRV and SLFs to whatever type they are (Scorpion, Condor, etc) but if one wants to CHANGE the SRV/SLF type, we only have one of two options. The only SLF we can swap to in the Taipan and the only SRV is the Scarab. If we want to change our SLF from, for example, an AX Taipan to an unlocked Guardian Trident, we can't. We have to fly to a station with a Guardian broker, go to outfitting and change the SLF to Trident, even though we can resupply the Trident (if previously equipped) on the carrier. Same for the Scorpion SRV.

I realize this is a game and "logic doesn't factor into it" for gameplay reasons (I mean, we can instantly swap spacesuits in less time than it takes to put on slippers, in an SRV where the cockpit is smaller than a Geo Metro) but was this intended design or just an oversight? If we are in a carrier, why can't we go to the SRV/SLF option tabs and select any SRV/SLF and not just the Taipan or Scarab?

 

[varonica]

I thought my lack of available options on my carrier was a bug, but was told by Frontier that it was intended and to add this suggestion here.

On board a carrier, one can RE-supply their SRV and SLFs to whatever type they are (Scorpion, Condor, etc) but if one wants to CHANGE the SRV/SLF type, we only have one of two options. The only SLF we can swap to in the Taipan and the only SRV is the Scarab. If we want to change our SLF from, for example, an AX Taipan to an unlocked Guardian Trident, we can't. We have to fly to a station with a Guardian broker, go to outfitting and change the SLF to Trident, even though we can resupply the Trident (if previously equipped) on the carrier. Same for the Scorpion SRV.

I realize this is a game and "logic doesn't factor into it" for gameplay reasons (I mean, we can instantly swap spacesuits in less time than it takes to put on slippers, in an SRV where the cockpit is smaller than a Geo Metro) but was this intended design or just an oversight? If we are in a carrier, why can't we go to the SRV/SLF option tabs and select any SRV/SLF and not just the Taipan or Scarab?

Well I guess for the same reason a player can't buy a Sidewinder from your FC if you haven't purchased the ship pack that allows your FC to sell them. The SLF and SRV hangers, which allow you to purchase the SRV's and SLF's are part of the outfitting module packages so I am assuming you can pick your SLF or SRV type when purchasing one, otherwise what would be the point of having them available for sale. The SRV and SLF count as ammo I suppose for the hangers, and the same with any other already equipped device you can only replace what you are already equipped to carry.

Changing the SRV or SLF type would count as "purchasing" said item, and if you don't have a shipyard and said items for sale where are you going to purchase it from. Not sure of this applies to the Guardian SLF and that may be a special case where you have to be at a location with a guardian tech broker to purchase it, but this would just fit in with other guardian tech, well except for the FSD booster of course, but there always have to be exceptions.

Having said that, I don't have my FC equipped for selling modules so I can't check, but does anyone have said SRV and SLF modules for sale on their FC, and if so can players swap and/or select the types of SLF and SRV when purchasing said hanger modules? So I am assuming here you have to be equipped to sell them for players to swap to them and not just let players do it for free without the FC being equipped to do so.

 

[alexzk]

Hangars keep installed vehicles. That's why I have like 20 hangars with different fighters and SRVs' combinations stored. When I need to switch I just install another hangar. Another issue with this - you can't know what is inside until installed, so it is guessing game when many is stored.

 

[Northpin]

I thought my lack of available options on my carrier was a bug, but was told by Frontier that it was intended and to add this suggestion here.

On board a carrier, one can RE-supply their SRV and SLFs to whatever type they are (Scorpion, Condor, etc) but if one wants to CHANGE the SRV/SLF type, we only have one of two options. The only SLF we can swap to in the Taipan and the only SRV is the Scarab. If we want to change our SLF from, for example, an AX Taipan to an unlocked Guardian Trident, we can't. We have to fly to a station with a Guardian broker, go to outfitting and change the SLF to Trident, even though we can resupply the Trident (if previously equipped) on the carrier. Same for the Scorpion SRV.

I realize this is a game and "logic doesn't factor into it" for gameplay reasons (I mean, we can instantly swap spacesuits in less time than it takes to put on slippers, in an SRV where the cockpit is smaller than a Geo Metro) but was this intended design or just an oversight? If we are in a carrier, why can't we go to the SRV/SLF option tabs and select any SRV/SLF and not just the Taipan or Scarab?

Makes plenty of sense to me.
The FC will refit what your srv/slf hangar is programmed to build/hold

IF you want to change that, you need to fly to a system that sells the said type of SLF or that type of SRV

What you're asking is like - i want to buy guardian weapons on my carrier - well, you cannot, you have to go to the systems that are selling them
After all, if you can repair/rearm the said guardian weapons on the carrier you should be able to buy them at will, right?
Well, nope - and again, the current system makes sense

 

[gorankar]

I purchased extra hangers and loaded them up with the fighters/srv I wanted. It retains what fighter/srv was in the module when stored. It's definitely a kluge, but it is effective. If only there was a way to mark them so I knew what was in them and did not just have to fit and refit until I found the one I wanted.

 

[JohnnyDangerous]

Makes plenty of sense to me.
The FC will refit what your srv/slf hangar is programmed to build/hold

IF you want to change that, you need to fly to a system that sells the said type of SLF or that type of SRV

They why can I change it to a Taipan or Scarab? I know that it resupplies whatever is in the hangar, but then why give the opportunity to change whatever is in the hangar with only a Taipan or Scarab? Why not all or nothing? What's the deal with just those 2?

What you're asking is like - i want to buy guardian weapons on my carrier - well, you cannot, you have to go to the systems that are selling them
After all, if you can repair/rearm the said guardian weapons on the carrier you should be able to buy them at will, right?
Well, nope - and again, the current system makes sense

No, weapons are modules, SLFs are ammunition. They are "supplies" like missiles vs bullets. So fine, but on a carrier you also store modules, and so if they are considered modules then why aren't they all available? I have multiple hangars with various SLF types in them, all on the carrier, so if one type is available why not all? And why just the Taipan?

 

[JohnnyDangerous]

I purchased extra hangers and loaded them up with the fighters/srv I wanted. It retains what fighter/srv was in the module when stored. It's definitely a kluge, but it is effective. If only there was a way to mark them so I knew what was in them and did not just have to fit and refit until I found the one I wanted.

Yeah that's what I do to, and like you said, it's a trying to fit the right hangar with the desired fighters because you have to do it blind by process of elimination. So I get it if the SLF type was just straight ammunition, like a missile rack only refits missiles... fine... but why can any hangar be adjusted to refit a Taipan of any flavor, or a Scarab, but if you want to put a Scorpion or Condor on you have to go to a station outfitting area.

 

[JohnnyDangerous]

Well I guess for the same reason a player can't buy a Sidewinder from your FC if you haven't purchased the ship pack that allows your FC to sell them. The SLF and SRV hangers, which allow you to purchase the SRV's and SLF's are part of the outfitting module packages so I am assuming you can pick your SLF or SRV type when purchasing one, otherwise what would be the point of having them available for sale. The SRV and SLF count as ammo I suppose for the hangers, and the same with any other already equipped device you can only replace what you are already equipped to carry.

Changing the SRV or SLF type would count as "purchasing" said item, and if you don't have a shipyard and said items for sale where are you going to purchase it from. Not sure of this applies to the Guardian SLF and that may be a special case where you have to be at a location with a guardian tech broker to purchase it, but this would just fit in with other guardian tech, well except for the FSD booster of course, but there always have to be exceptions.

Having said that, I don't have my FC equipped for selling modules so I can't check, but does anyone have said SRV and SLF modules for sale on their FC, and if so can players swap and/or select the types of SLF and SRV when purchasing said hanger modules? So I am assuming here you have to be equipped to sell them for players to swap to them and not just let players do it for free without the FC being equipped to do so.

You might be onto something here, with the shipyard option. I'll have to install one and see if that opens up the slots.

 

[varonica]

You might be onto something here, with the shipyard option. I'll have to install one and see if that opens up the slots.

Yeah let us know what happens, shipyard and module stock of hangers for sale may be necessary, without both you only have on board what you took with you, and if that's a Scorpion SRV that's what's available. So yes I do carry hangers with both SRV's in case I want to use the other one, but no shipyard or module stock to save space for Tritium for exploring.

 

[Riverside]

I thought my lack of available options on my carrier was a bug, but was told by Frontier that it was intended and to add this suggestion here.

On board a carrier, one can RE-supply their SRV and SLFs to whatever type they are (Scorpion, Condor, etc) but if one wants to CHANGE the SRV/SLF type, we only have one of two options. The only SLF we can swap to in the Taipan and the only SRV is the Scarab. If we want to change our SLF from, for example, an AX Taipan to an unlocked Guardian Trident, we can't. We have to fly to a station with a Guardian broker, go to outfitting and change the SLF to Trident, even though we can resupply the Trident (if previously equipped) on the carrier. Same for the Scorpion SRV.

I realize this is a game and "logic doesn't factor into it" for gameplay reasons (I mean, we can instantly swap spacesuits in less time than it takes to put on slippers, in an SRV where the cockpit is smaller than a Geo Metro) but was this intended design or just an oversight? If we are in a carrier, why can't we go to the SRV/SLF option tabs and select any SRV/SLF and not just the Taipan or Scarab?

I'd like that too, I don't think the current workaround of storing stocked modules is a good solution because there is no indication what it is stocked with.

Restocking existing parts works for any that are currently installed, it doesn't seem too much of a leap to offer a choice of 'ammo' to put into the SLF hanger/SRV bay at any dock that offers repair/rearm and I don't think it would be overpowered compared to what we have now.

The issue with superpower associated SLFs could potentially be addressed by making imp ones only available if the carrier is located in an imp controlled system & ditto for the Feds (much like stations already do) but I don't think that's an essential step, carriers can be 'all superpowers'.