Of course, . You are a little disgusted by not testing the beta as you want. And as it is said in Spanish "Ajo y Agua".
Notice Fleet Carriers - Beta 2 - Commander State Notice
- Thread starter Stephen Benedetti
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As i said before i don't want a carrier, so i don't need any "free toys". I care less about carrier but i care about the game. Arx update broke the game completely for me for about one month (?) because broken engineer interface. FD hardly accepted the request from players to do open betas before add anything in game, so users (you, me etc) can test it FOR FREE for them so they don't do same mistakes as before. So now they do an open beta but only for players who have the credits to buy this carrier. This make me think they don't actually care about bugs and people testing, its just a preview and they will release a broken patch like they did before. I can bet there are more people who don't have at least 5 bilions than ones who have, so testing something with only "tons of us with multiple billions ready to go" as you said can be a little tricky if they really want a beta.
But at the same time, i can't wait for a new broken patch and see the defenders of FD who will rage on forums or just dissapear for few days/weeks like before.
This is so completely wrong that I find it impossible to believe that it is a mistake.
There are more things in the beta than merely owning a carrier or even interacting with one as a non owner as you would be aware of if you had checked the patch notes for beta 1 or taken part in it both of which you would have done if you cared about the game as much as you claim.
cmon mate, dont be a pro player with me.
mining is the only great money maker in this games, all other activies could be funny but are less than 10% of mining, stop to defend unbalancing in game activities profit
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I will be measured with you ..... in a thread around here, not more than 4 days ago, a player comments that he buys polymers at a price and sells them to another for more than 300% profit, it is more I wanted to fill an FC with polymers and take them to various systems where they pay 300% profit ... What is your problem, who only knows how to play fast ... is calm and read ... read the game data when you go in to buy and sell, because there is a trade window that tells you where to sell cheaper or buy .. that on the trade side.
Here we accuse that other players are professionals and it is not like that, ... there are in this forum, many threads where it indicates how to make trade or mining or profitable pew pew ... Have you ever stopped to see the map options of the galaxy, in the section on systems states and how it influences to earn credits ... because in this forum several commanders have explained it over the years. This is how credits are made.
Nobody says the game is perfect, but look, I was thinking of killing 60 ships it takes a long time between searching and others ... one of them told me to take a ton of Gold, or silver something of significant value, two friends and in pew pew less than one hour, the first time I lost but we returned and we tried again and the fourth, 112 mission ships less than an hour, so we won missions and credentials for those who like pew pew.
But when we don't stop to read, we immediately accuse professional, broken game, bug, exploit, when there is an exploit, Frontier is in charge of solving it.
Less complaining and playing ... reading if you want credits in commerce and mining, reading forum threads where many commanders have explained over the years in the forum ... well, I am not a professional but I have learned in this forum I have learned of my many mistakes and I am not a school teacher to teach, for that there are many better players and forum that have left their good explanations and experiences.
There is one, who in 14 days says I earn 5,000,000,000 cr or what is the same for an FC, he is a professional player, surely not, but he has stopped to think and surely he has read in the forums some and other ways to play.
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Voy a ser mesurado con UD..... en un hilo de por aqui, de no hace mas de 4 dias, un jugador comenta que compra polimeros a un precio y los vende a otro por mas del 300% de beneficio, es mas queria llenar un FC de polimeros y llevarlos a varios sistemas donde pagan 300% beneficio ...¿Cual es tu problema, que solo sabe jugar rápido ... es calma y leer...leer los datos del juego cuando entras a comprar y vender, pues hay una ventanita de comercio que te indica donde se vende mas barato o se compra.. eso en el lado de comercio.
Aqui acusamos de que otros jugadores somos profesionales y no es asi, ... hay en este foro, muchos hilos donde indica como hacer el comercio o mineria o pew pew rentable... ¿Te has parado alguna vez a ver las opciones del mapa de la galaxia, en el apartado de estados de los sistemas y como influye para ganar creditos.. pues en este foro varios comandantes lo han explicado a lo largo de estos años. Asi se hacen creditos.
Nadie dice el juego sea perfecto, pero mira, yo pensaba matar 60 naves lleva mucho tiempo entre que busca y demas... me dijo uno coje una tonelada de Oro, o plata algo de valor importante, dos amigos y en pew pew menos de una hora realizado, la primera vez perdi pero reggresamos e intentamos de nuevo y a la cuarta, 112 naves de mision menos de una hora, asi ganamos misiones y crededitos para quien gusta pew pew.
Pero cuando no nos paramos a leer enseguida acusamos de profesional, de juego roto, de bug, de exploit, cuando hay un exploit ya se encarga Frontier de solucionarlo.
Menos quejarse y jugar .. leyendo si quieres creditos en comercio y mineria, leer hilos del foro donde muchos comandantes han explicado a lo largo de estos años en el foro...pues no soy un profesional pero me he informado en este foro he aprendido de mis muchos errores y no soy un maestro de escuela para enseñar, para eso hay muchos mejores jugadores y foro que han dejado sus buenos explicaciones y experiencias.
Hay uno, que en 14 dias dice gano 5.000.000.000 cr o lo que es lo mismo para un FC, es jugador profesional seguramente no , pero se ha parado a pensar y seguro ha leido en los foros unas y otras maneras de jugar
i dont means make money is not balanced. i know how to make 5 bilions in 4 days, theres no problem about. i dont want to, thats all.
i simply says the profit for mining are OVERPRICED than other activities, its good if mining generate a good ammount of cr\h, but i think there some really big canyon between other.
also, pve doesent offer "challgenge", pve is easy and kill pirate may can provide bilions, but damns mining is more difficult than bounty hunting in this game, would be nice enough to have something for veteran player to test the skill agains for example modded npc ship with improved ai, and receive a little bit more of bounty payment.
In the end it is summarized in: Frontier give me the game according to my expectations, and if not everything is wrong
There were at least 800 (eight hundred) carrier in the beta. Should be plenty of testing.
Take your business test ... for example; Do I take you by the hand like babies?
Carriers as bulk-haulers/traders
In the main game I currently have a very profitable trade route (by my meagre standards anyway!) - buy Polymers for about 70 credits, sell them one system away for about 5,100 credits. The limitations on the profit are a) ship capacity and b) time taken jumping back and forth. Could this be...
Oh my, the petulance is strong with this one.
When i read this post i was at 1.5 billion credits and just within 4-5 days of mining and i am standing at 6.2 billion credits and that was extremely easy and due to lock down i got nothing better to do and now i am ready to test the carriers for myself on Xbox.
After the beta pt 2 finishes i can do some more mining to get some extra credits for the full update later on.
My opinion on the carrier upkeep is bad but at the same time for me it makes sense as something like a carrier that is a huge ship that is capable of jumping 500ly max with star-port services shouldn't be free running cost but that just me as mostly everything costs to maintain like a house, car, phone contract and more.
I also heard many say that this is punishment to people who buys a fleet carrier but i find open play is more punishing because the attention seekers (PvP people) interdict you in open no matter if your defenseless or not by killing you and ruining your game-play entirely as this happened to me when i was new to the game and i didn't play again till a week later.
After the beta pt 2 finishes i can do some more mining to get some extra credits for the full update later on.
My opinion on the carrier upkeep is bad but at the same time for me it makes sense as something like a carrier that is a huge ship that is capable of jumping 500ly max with star-port services shouldn't be free running cost but that just me as mostly everything costs to maintain like a house, car, phone contract and more.
I also heard many say that this is punishment to people who buys a fleet carrier but i find open play is more punishing because the attention seekers (PvP people) interdict you in open no matter if your defenseless or not by killing you and ruining your game-play entirely as this happened to me when i was new to the game and i didn't play again till a week later.
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When you say "professional player" I hope you don't mean that literally. Because there is no such thing as a professional ED player. This game has no eSports league.
What's sad is that CQC really would work for that and FD even wanted to do just that at one point.
So If I download, run the beta, and spend 5 billion on a ship it is my understanding that the 5 billion dollars is lost. When I go back to the live game I will have lost 5 billion dollars and remain committed owning the carrier?
Who would spend 5 billion credits to test a beta and find out they don't want to buy it in the real game?
Who would spend 5 billion credits to test a beta and find out they don't want to buy it in the real game?
Ok, what does that mean? What does the "copy your savegame" copy?
Before the beta goes live they take a snapshot of the game data (including your commander) as it was on a given date, in this case 30th April.
The beta takes place on a mirror copy of the live game server, using that snapshot.
After the beta is over, they delete that mirror copy. Your 'normal' game account on the live server is never affected in any way by anything that happens in the beta.
During the beta, you can either log into the live game and play it as normal, with anything you do affecting your live account as usual. Or you can log into the beta and test, in which case anything you do affects the beta copy of the game, not the actual live game.
IC. Thanks for taking the time to explain this too me. Much appreciated cmdr.