Yes, although it's a classic and I have a copy, re-watching it does set my teeth on edge! The other thing is the pace, glacially slow, that and the Italian Job when you watch it back nowadays (i didnt think so as a child) you are urging them to get on with it! ;-)
For the 'young uns' The slot and the Blue Danube
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Yes, although it's a classic and I have a copy, re-watching it does set my teeth on edge! The other thing is the pace, glacially slow, that and the Italian Job when you watch it back nowadays (i didnt think so as a child) you are urging them to get on with it! ;-)
Vivaldi's Four Seasons is nails down a chalkboard for me.
You may enjoy this political analasys of Beethoven's Ode To Joy:
[video=youtube;XM9erS90gTE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM9erS90gTE[/video]
Why would I not ...
As Austrian, I know what it means to be annoyed by waltz music and the Strauss familiy in particular.
I´m happy that sci-fi gave this music a new meaning, far off the imperial "charme" of 19th century Austria. It´s a good thing and it fits perfectly.
But I also turned docking music off, enough is enough.
While we're on the subject of Blue Danube and spiral docking i thought i'd share my video one more time for those that havn't seen it.
I guess with the new camera suite it looks easy to do now, bare in mind however that this was made using the old system where once the external camera is enabled you have no control over the ship !
The result was only a very minor clip of the docking port which i cut and then video'd an npc doing the landing bit (cheating i know but limitations etc).
The music is a more up-to-date rock version of the Blue Danube performed by the Jonas Brothers.
Enjoy (and i invite you to try it !):
[video=youtube;SSynONXmcK0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSynONXmcK0[/video]
I guess with the new camera suite it looks easy to do now, bare in mind however that this was made using the old system where once the external camera is enabled you have no control over the ship !
The result was only a very minor clip of the docking port which i cut and then video'd an npc doing the landing bit (cheating i know but limitations etc).
The music is a more up-to-date rock version of the Blue Danube performed by the Jonas Brothers.
Enjoy (and i invite you to try it !):
[video=youtube;SSynONXmcK0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSynONXmcK0[/video]
Maybe vice versa.
Imagine if at the end of that 2001 sequence you got "DOCKING REQUEST DENIED" or "SHIP SCAN DETECTED" followed by the ship boosting and slamming into the rear of the station...
You have to remember that at the time the sequence you refer to used and created cutting-edge techniques and utilized older techniques in novel ways. Some parts of the sequence can be seen to directly effect later movies. The only Oscar won by 2001 was for the Best Visual Effects.
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Or a Beluga barrelled out....
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Yeah, life and time moves on, everything has to be fast-paced and slow exposition is not accepted in our movies any more.
In Norway however, you can have live TV of a log fire.
Slow TV - we have had a bit on BBC4.
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Well, the point is to unnerve you, and to make it clear that you're not even remotely in the same place anymore.
It interesting to compare it to the wormhole sequence in Contact. In that one, the aliens have humanity ...for lack of a better word - I just mean that they have feelings and want to connect with us on that level. "The only thing that makes the emptiness bearable is each other" they say. They try to make everything as comfortable as possible. Human engineers mount a chair in the pod, so it's a bumpy ride for a bit. But as soon as the chair is removed, it's smooth as silk.
By contrast, the aliens in 2001 aren't sentimental. They're curious, and they're not malevolent, but they're not caring. The idea that human company "makes the emptiness bearable" wouldn't occur to them. It'd be like suggesting that an insect makes your life bearable. As a scientist, you would find the insect interesting, but have no desire to commune with it.
The Aliens in 2001 collect Bowman like we might collect a bug in a jar. The sequence is supposed to scare you. It's supposed to be clear how much energy is being used, and how far you're being taken. You're supposed to be screaming for it to stop - there are even shots of Bowman toward the end of the sequence where he's screaming, but we can't hear him.
Something I strongly recommend everyone to do is to watch 2001 in a dark room. A proper theater would be ideal, but at least watch it in the dark. Before anything is shown on screen, there are two and a half minutes of music. This sequence represents "everything that happened in the universe before we existed" - when someone pointed that out to me, it blew my mind. The music starts off serenely; relaxing. We're comfortable with our narrative about the big bang and so on. The fact that that happened in the past doesn't bother us. Then the music changes (it's when the oboes start) and that's supposed to unnerve you. Stuff is clearly happening - not natural stuff - but you have no hope of seeing it because you don't even exist yet.
You can only pick up on the feeling of that if you watch it in the dark. It's great.
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Damn you OP!!!
Now I have to get home, put the Blue Danube on very loud (Sorry to the neighbours in advance) and dock FAoff before the music finishes... It's going to be a long night!
I think that prize goes to Handel's Coronation Anthem No. 1 - "Zadok the Priest". I hear that anthem at least once / month on UK T.V.
I had that kit too! It sat right next to my Revel model of the Saturn V rocket! Now THAT was a model kit! Took me forever to build that thing! Stood close to 4 feet tall if I recall! HUGE!
Did all you guys who saw 2001 as a kid figure out how old you would be in 2001 and then go... Man! These people on the screen would be around my age right now! lol!
I was 42 in 2001, and I remember thinking about that back in 1968 and how far away that seemed at the time. If only a life time passed as slowly as it does for a 9 year old eh? And if only we could have had the movie's optimistic future instead of the somewhat boring one we ended up with space travel wise.
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I'm still waiting for a voice pack that has the HAL 9000 voice. Just imagine lining up to a station and telling the computer to request docking and you hear, "I'm sorry, Dave I can't do that!" Afterwards none of your commands will be acknowledged. Talk about immersion!
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I made people think, if it didn't trigger brain cells the person should be declared dead.
Interesting, I flew in Jumpgate(Planetary Raiders) from 94-01, then moved to E&B and then SWG. I must of thought E&B was better, because I do not remember ever hearing of Elite before playing ED. Sorry for the ignorance.
I'd like to think Elite was also influenced some by the first Alien movie with the massive transport ships like the Nostromo and landing on the rocky barren planetoid LV-426 with the giant landing gear, the rectilinear engine nozzles, plus the door on the back center of many ED ships, even the boost thrust jets. The end scene and credits of the movie also used Hansen's symphony instead of Goldsmith's score.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-mmbStFrAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm-JBUCS9rA&feature=youtu.be&t=1m4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-mmbStFrAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm-JBUCS9rA&feature=youtu.be&t=1m4s
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