General / Off-Topic Free Speech in UK - discuss
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Both have similar Mission Statements but whilst EDL request anyone that migrates to UK must go by it's Laws, Britain First do NOT want any further immigration. Basically they are the same under 2 names of different Leadership to limit power of conditions placed upon either group demographically. Both are becoming more responsible at what they do and with respect to what Logos they use for representation. They have upset some in the past by borrowing other logos.
I say this, there are always narrow-minded do-gooders who want to think they are clever and call others a racist without knowing who they are calling. In my hometown there is 1 person whom has complained to the town council about having Music Events and Firework Displays on a piece if land that was called in memory of those who fought in the War. He complains of picture frames in a pub not looking traditional. He then complains that a pub must stop flying the Union Jack as it may cause offence to some ethnic groups - this far up North in a town of 8000ppl there are none! He won all complaints and ruined it all.
If we can not fly our own flag then we have lost and our country is indeed under Sharia Law in this effect.
I say this, there are always narrow-minded do-gooders who want to think they are clever and call others a racist without knowing who they are calling. In my hometown there is 1 person whom has complained to the town council about having Music Events and Firework Displays on a piece if land that was called in memory of those who fought in the War. He complains of picture frames in a pub not looking traditional. He then complains that a pub must stop flying the Union Jack as it may cause offence to some ethnic groups - this far up North in a town of 8000ppl there are none! He won all complaints and ruined it all.
If we can not fly our own flag then we have lost and our country is indeed under Sharia Law in this effect.
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And here you go...Both group Leaders now get arrested on the very day they have planned an event albeit a Rally, Protest, to Protest against a Terror Protest, calling on Islamic Criminal's doors either at Court or afterwards at their homes, or publically speaking at the others events, or even going to the pub with their family and children in their hometowns. They now even get arrested for reporting which is obviously what they do for free!
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Actually, career criminal Tommy Robinson/Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon/Andrew McMaster/Paul Harris (see Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(activist)) was arrested for contempt of court, after attempting to film defendants during an ongoing trial, despite being warned by the police not to do so. http://www.kentlive.news/far-right-activist-tommy-robinson-was-warned-by-police-after-turning-up-at-canterbury-crown-court/story-30319870-detail/story.html
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Yet all 4 rapists of a 16yr white girl will get off for it giving rise to Islamophobia. Wait and see just like all the hundreds of others that got off! He spoke to 2 of them and their Barrister outside and asked which Court they were in. Britain First also did this and went into the Public Gallery and were asked to leave to hide the case! The lied to them sayng he was in for a Speeding Fine and was in Court Room 4. He was in for a case in room 6!
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Once the "shackles of EU oppresion" (sic) have been cut you'll start to ban demographics who don't conform to societies arbitrary standards?
Are you familiar with the term "cognitive dissonance"?
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As well as subjugate all ethnic groups and even remove them, where possible.
Both organizations are openly racist and belong in a different century.
EDIT: Looking back over the last page, it appears as though this thread is descending into little more than hate rhetoric directed at millions of your fellow British citizens for the behaviour of a handful.
On the actual topic:
You have freedom of speech. If you say something the secret police won't visit you in the night and take you to a secret location to put a bullet in your head. You won't be injected with polonium or ricin.
That's not the same thing as freedom of consequence. If you spout off racist crap people will call you out for it. If you're openly racist companies will not want to hire you, and a boss might want to fire you. If you spread dangerous levels of hate or provoke others to commit criminal acts you may have to answer for that in open court.
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You can not give an example for them being racist. They openly support ALL races but both are opposed to Islam beliefs. You do not have to be of any race nor colour to follow Islam. You simply need to read the Quran, attend Mosques and pray. You have the same fascist views of anyone who points the finger without any actual evidence of proof nor knowledge just like a disease. Problem solving starts with awareness and the Political Correct brigade are harming this.
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In your opinion, getting locked up for 5 months to 7yrs is Freedom Of Speech - OK yeah right!
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In another way, all elitists which tell atheists that they will not go to heaven if they are good or they will burn in eternal hell fire if they do not follow Islam is in fact fascist and against those beliefs. That is criminal to incite such crap!
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In your opinion, getting locked up for 5 months to 7yrs is Freedom Of Speech - OK yeah right!
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In another way, all elitists which tell atheists that they will not go to heaven if they are good or they will burn in eternal hell fire if they do not follow Islam is in fact fascist and against those beliefs. That is criminal to incite such crap!
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Actual evidence? Like the death threats a 'Britain First' supporter sent to an MP? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/15/female-mp-received-death-threats-for-calling-for-ban-on-britain-first
Britain First is of course yet another far right splinter-group, formed from remnants of the British National Party. Who were of course a splinter group of the National Front. Who in turn formed from ex-supporters of the League of Empire Loyalists. Who were of course a post-war rebranding of Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists. No doubt at some point they will split, and come up with another name for the same old same old...
As for the EDL, it is worth noting that Tommy Robinson (yup, the same one), left it because "the ****s and the fascists" (his words) had been welcomed into the organisation while he was serving his jail term for having entered the U.S. illegally...
****Sorry, but having the forum censor this is silly. It is a direct quote of a relevant political statement. Look it up on Wikipedia.
Britain First is of course yet another far right splinter-group, formed from remnants of the British National Party. Who were of course a splinter group of the National Front. Who in turn formed from ex-supporters of the League of Empire Loyalists. Who were of course a post-war rebranding of Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists. No doubt at some point they will split, and come up with another name for the same old same old...
As for the EDL, it is worth noting that Tommy Robinson (yup, the same one), left it because "the ****s and the fascists" (his words) had been welcomed into the organisation while he was serving his jail term for having entered the U.S. illegally...
****Sorry, but having the forum censor this is silly. It is a direct quote of a relevant political statement. Look it up on Wikipedia.
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Basically us humans do need a distraction in life to twine about. A place to put all our hate and bring us all more together. It used to be the Great Wars and then it was Punk, Mods, and Rockers. Then it was all about Gays and their rights and then Aids to show us it was for all sexual desires. Then it got dull and then came Terrorism. We just can't get rid of it as it is now our common enemy and gripe. Conspiracists say this is just a Black Flag and the real powers are Illuminati.
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Evidence? That is a setup or a loony on the internet trolling. Yes they all started from roots which when they got to know what each others views were they sacked many and then went their own ways. None of the Leaders of the EDL & BF are racist in any way. The media constantly put out propaganda to portray them as such with much libel.
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Evidence? That is a setup or a loony on the internet trolling. Yes they all started from roots which when they got to know what each others views were they sacked many and then went their own ways. None of the Leaders of the EDL & BF are racist in any way. The media constantly put out propaganda to portray them as such with much libel.
So was Britain First' leader (and convicted criminal: there is a pattern here...) Paul Golding 'set up' when he posted what he claimed was a video of 'Muslims celebrating the Paris Terror attack in London'? A video that turned out to be people celebrating a cricket match win? http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/paul-golding-shared-video-falsely-claiming-muslims-celebrated-paris-terror-a3520926.html Was he 'set up' when he threatened to bury a pig at the site of proposed mosque in Dudley? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Golding
Incidentally, it appears that Golding isn't exactly in favour of free speech himself, having persuaded Britain First to adopt a policy whereby (in the unlikely circumstance that they ever came to power) the media would be banned from using the word 'racism' at all.
For yet more evidence of what a repulsive bunch of racist bigots Britain First are, see this story on them photoshopping a picture of a former United States Navy serviceman: http://www.yorkshirestandard.co.uk/news/veteran-reports-britain-first-for-defamation-over-fake-photo-10603/
Incidentally, it appears that Golding isn't exactly in favour of free speech himself, having persuaded Britain First to adopt a policy whereby (in the unlikely circumstance that they ever came to power) the media would be banned from using the word 'racism' at all.
For yet more evidence of what a repulsive bunch of racist bigots Britain First are, see this story on them photoshopping a picture of a former United States Navy serviceman: http://www.yorkshirestandard.co.uk/news/veteran-reports-britain-first-for-defamation-over-fake-photo-10603/
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These are not Political Parties that would be serious in becoming Government but simply campaign all the time but not to become leaders. They are strongly for democracy and convictions happen for all manner of life's daily happenings and especially when one is an activist. To threaten to bury a Pig on a proposed Mosque is laughable and if such idiots think an animal has never died on any part of land ever is deluded just as they worship a Pheadophile.
All media get stuff wrong but you need specific evidence of who did the photoshopping and wrote such death threats else there's no case here. If they wished to remove "racism" from the media then it is clearly because there is a clear lack of proper use of this word as it is used against these Parties as slander without actual reference. They are not the Party they rooted from and the Islam is needed to be brought to the surface. They are doing the job of those who are too embarrassed to talk about it for fear of death threats from these Terrorists or will lose their jobs for speaking out. The problem is in ALL major towns and cities in London, upto the Midlands, to Northern England and even parts of Scotland. You simply have to go there and see for yourself.
All media get stuff wrong but you need specific evidence of who did the photoshopping and wrote such death threats else there's no case here. If they wished to remove "racism" from the media then it is clearly because there is a clear lack of proper use of this word as it is used against these Parties as slander without actual reference. They are not the Party they rooted from and the Islam is needed to be brought to the surface. They are doing the job of those who are too embarrassed to talk about it for fear of death threats from these Terrorists or will lose their jobs for speaking out. The problem is in ALL major towns and cities in London, upto the Midlands, to Northern England and even parts of Scotland. You simply have to go there and see for yourself.
1. On race. Read the dictionary:
So prejudice against a demographic based on culture etc is explicitly racist. There are posts in this thread which are explicitly racist. It would help if you actually knew what racism was before telling other people that they can't give examples of it. The EDL and Britain First are explicitly racist organizations. And for that matter so is UKIP.
2. You've just accused someone arguing for acceptance of different cultures existing within the same society as being "fascist". I swear, this actually made me laugh out loud. I seriously doubt that you have the faintest idea of what you're actually talking about at this point.
"Threatening" people with being "burned in eternal hell" is not a criminal offense for a good reason - it's not a threat.
Can you show me your soul? Can you present evidence of life after death? Can you offer me any sort of reason to believe that?
It's like me saying; "X-Terminator, next week I am going to come to your house and murder all of your ewoks". By all means, try to take that to a court.
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Again dude...Islam is not a race it is a belief.
I don't need to go anywhere. I live in London. Amongst people of all ethnicities, and of all religions, and none. And I know how to recognise clueless bigotry easily enough. I don't need guidance from your semi-literate incoherent rants.
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Frankly it makes no difference whether this bunch of repulsive bigots and habitual criminals meet your definition of 'racism' or not. They are repulsive bigots either way...
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OK so you guys do not care about the rapings of white girls by immigrants and many Muslims - fine. Bury your heads. This is what the media and the Government wish also. Nevermind when it's people you know. Keep it shushed.
It's a set of traditions and cultural values.
Yes, I care about 'rapings'. Obviously. Thank you for confirming this is about race though...
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Nope. A race is people and not stuff!
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They speak out because we are a Democracy. Hushing them is not.Yeah that's exactly what we said.
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