Oh I was once like you. Frontier could do no wrong.
One day....one day....
It will happen soon.
I think limited should apply to this thread, really the ED forums are possibly the most insane I have ever seen. 38 pages about limited flag paint jobs...
it was added to entice more people to buy it, it was never intended to be a true mmo, those cost way too much for them to even try.Im very critical of many things they do with the game. The way the game is build for/as solo with multi lazily thrown in makes me mad just to think about it but the marketing i have no problem with.
Oh I was once like you. Frontier could do no wrong.
One day....one day....
It will happen soon.
Oh I was once like you. Frontier could do no wrong.
One day....one day....
It will happen soon.
I think limited should apply to this thread, really the ED forums are possibly the most insane I have ever seen. 38 pages about limited flag paint jobs...
Im very critical of many things they do with the game. The way the game is build for/as solo with multi lazily thrown in makes me mad just to think about it but the marketing i have no problem with.
Those of us who believed the hardest fell the hardest. Though I had wisened up enough by the time gamma launched that there was no Magic Gold release that would be feature complete people kept going on about....
Im very critical of many things they do with the game. The way the game is build for/as solo with multi lazily thrown in makes me mad just to think about it but the marketing i have no problem with.
And here i am, living in a 3rd world country that doesn't even have a flag skin...
it was added to entice more people to buy it, it was never intended to be a true mmo, those cost way too much for them to even try.
Can we just look a little deeper and beyond skins and landings for a moment ?
This might have been the OPs opening statement but the thread has moved beyond that now and into how Frontier operates as a company. There are some real operational issues here that will affect the game and the company both in the short and long term. There's a lot of very naive statements being made by Frontier which worries a lot of people, inconsistent comms and quick edits and backtracks. Frontier doesn't have the correct structure in place to cope with what's on the horizon not does it appear to have a hiring strategy to match what it needs. The people in place in sales, marketing, PR are way over their head and I doubt Frontier has given any thought to structurally operating around a massive long term franchise like ED. Until it has a serious look at itself and admit it needs to change these issues will continue to crop up all the time.
I love this game, and I'll continue to invest my time in it, but wake up Frontier and stop burying your head in the sand. You need help and you clearly don't have the skills inhouse to deal with this.
Well I disagree - I've been here a while now and seen Frontier go from blunder to blunder with marketing and comms for this game.
I've worked in PR, I see the signs and if it continues I don't see it going well.
None of this comes from a place of hate (like some people on here over gameplay issues) but because I have a financial and emotional reason for Frontier and this game to succeed.
However the development of the game is obviously on an order of magnitude beyond that! A huge amount of work and resources are being poured into the game.
Indeed. Hats off to the boys and girls in development.
I'd like to know when the Chinese flag will be available? We're one of the biggest countries in the world (population and economy wise).
And what we are trying to tell you is that, in the eyes of fans and the general public, you're all the same company and what one department does is seen as what Frontier does not what "marketing" did. In the public's eyes there's just Frontier, not several different groups independent of each other. You all as the expression goes "live and die" by what the other does. See what I mean?
Also, to be more clear, with the exception of some capital stockpile or future investment perspectives all but guaranteeing planetary landings will come out, skins marked "limited" or not DOES INDEED affect whether planetary landings come out or not as people will become angry (see this thread), stop buying your stuff and therefore (unless the previously stated is true) insure that indeed it won't come out.
I may seem rough and calloused but, I do indeed really give a toot and frankly, you seem to (at least to me) think this is a small if not non-issue, which if true, and I hope I'm wrong, is way off the mark and very short sighted, certainly for someone that deals directly with the community.
Of course, I could be wrong, again I usually am but, this is an issue. It makes FD look bad, hurts FD's reputation, will indeed hurt future sales and therefore the company as a whole and will follow FD forever as the internet always goes. At some point (like the offline thing) you're going to see posts on here and comments across the internet on gaming sites about the "limited" skin ordeal right along with the "offline" thing. It may seem trivial right now and have very little impact on sales figures and/or operating capital but, you can bet it will in the future. But, hey, if the money is rolling in and things are going great then by all means let these seemingly little things slip by and watch how they come back to bite you in the future.
This is BY NO MEANS a threat or anything like that, I'm just stating what I've seen in the last 35 years or so of gaming happen over and over and am trying to help avoid it happening (again) to FD. Which, by the way, doesn't FD have someone that's supposed to be doing that?
From my biased (at this point) view there's a couple things that could/should happen:
1. Find out why this happened and tie up the loose ends, one way or the other with some kind of definitive clarification on here or the store for future sales items.
OR
2. Ignore the issue and refrain from acknowledging it exists.
I may be nuts and have it all wrong but, one thing I promise you I don't have wrong is that this makes FD look bad in the eyes of many and should be put to bed one way or the other.