Frontier, did you push the right build ??

[danteuk]

It's not fair to compare with CP 2077 - that's a massive game with a tonne of features and missions and story and things to do and see and it looks stunning and runs better than Odyssey and the looks better than Odyssey ( NPC's and building etc ) it has better FPS gameplay, loads more weapons, it has actual stealth game play where you can hide the bodies etc - it uses DX12 level graphics - Odyssey is still only DX11 and they are just now adding in the PBR lighting - something that most games in the last 4/5 years already had.

This beta is not well is it, it's a shame, FDev claimed so many things were fixed in the main trunk - but apart from the DSS turning the planet blue instead of green I'm not seeing any real differences from Alpha. My frame rate is identical to Alpha, the number of bugs and glitches are about the same too.

 

[Dthen]

It's not fair to compare with CP 2077 - that's a massive game with a tonne of features and missions and story and things to do and see and it looks stunning and runs better than Odyssey and the looks better than Odyssey ( NPC's and building etc ) it has better FPS gameplay, loads more weapons, it has actual stealth game play where you can hide the bodies etc - it uses DX12 level graphics - Odyssey is still only DX11 and they are just now adding in the PBR lighting - something that most games in the last 4/5 years already had.

This beta is not well is it, it's a shame, FDev claimed so many things were fixed in the main trunk - but apart from the DSS turning the planet blue instead of green I'm not seeing any real differences from Alpha. My frame rate is identical to Alpha, the number of bugs and glitches are about the same too.

You're right, Cyberpunk had a game to play.

 

[VR Jay Le Chardon]

Not really. I know people who enjoyed Cyberpunk.

I know people who enjoy Odyssey

I enjoy both, but both are dumpster fires on launchday. It's take a few months to just about rescue CP2077, i'm anticipating the same for Odyssey, but underneath its bugs, abysmal performance, even worse VR on foot, there is a good game just waiting to emerge. But until it does "emerge":

 

[[VR] Enexemander]

Cyberpunk 2077 on PC was always great for me. Those videos everyone was clickbaiting on youtube that looked awful were for the old consoles.
Cyberpunk was made for PC and the ports aren't great. /shrug.
What's Odyssey's excuse?

 

[VR Jay Le Chardon]

I've had plenty of T-Posing in CP2077, on PC...

Odyssey doesn't have an excuse, but like CP2077, it was released before it was ready, because cash is king and Frontier wanted to be able to show revenue for Odyssey in the 2020 Financial Year, as it had promised its shareholders.

 

[Minack]

Frontier at least had the wisdom to delay their console release or I imagine they'd be liable for all the bricked PS4s that tried to run this hot garbage.

 

[Exeider]

Who would have thought that Odyssey would become the game that makes Cyberpunk 2077 look like a success story?

Ouch... Burn Unit on line 3.

 

[Exeider]

Don't forget the fact that you can't share missions or see help/see each other with each others missions. It's a freaking joke. An MMO where you can't play together at all like their demo mission footage showcased. You literally can't share a mission with a friend and go enjoy an experience. Mind blown. We must start Tweeting Yongyea so he'll cover it and get us some justice =)

Start tweeting this guy if you want to get frontier's attention. He will shake stuff up.

https://www.youtube.com/user/YongYea

This is not an MMO. Seriously, please get that through your head. I don't care how much Fdev claims that it is, ED is NOT an MMO. When you can get 5 times as many players in a GTA Online lobby than in an ED instance and people don't consider GTAO an MMO, i mean AFAIK, it's not considered one. So if GTAO isn't an MMO, ED definitely isn't.

 

[Kaocraft]

This is not an MMO. Seriously, please get that through your head. I don't care how much Fdev claims that it is, ED is NOT an MMO. When you can get 5 times as many players in a GTA Online lobby than in an ED instance and people don't consider GTAO an MMO, i mean AFAIK, it's not considered one. So if GTAO isn't an MMO, ED definitely isn't.

Let's call it a Big Lobby Multiplayer Game then. The issue still stands, and it's inexcusable regardless of what label you slap on there.

 

[Exeider]

Let's call it a Big Lobby Multiplayer Game then. The issue still stands, and it's inexcusable regardless of what label you slap on there.

I wasn't defending it, I was pointing out the even further misrepresentation that Fdev engages in by calling this game an MMO and refers to it as such in articles, interviews and game conference presentations. That is a lie. And it's because they engage in hairsplitting and redefining what the word "Multiplayer" means to play word games with people.

To Fdev, if 1000 different players each connect to the server, go to the same system, are in roughly 1000 separate instances, maybe less if a few of them are connected to each other in the same instance, this to Fdev counts as "being an MMO", because it fits the technical definition of concurrent connections and locations. However it doesn't fit the practical definition in the sense that 1000 players are truly connected to one another and able to interact simultaneously in a meaningful way.

 

[CMDR_LS]

An MMO where you can't play together at all like their demo mission footage showcased

correction - Elite is NOT an MMO. it is a P2P multiplayer game with a co-op functionality that works 50% of the times.

it has a SOLO mode , I've never seen an mmo with a solo mode, but that's ok because it is catered to people who like to play alone.

there is no client server arch, you simply connect to a different player (aka client) hence why instancing is so f'ed up. p2p is cheaper to implement and maintain than a traditional mmo arch which is client-server based. and we all know that when it comes to FDev, cheaper and easy are the key words

a group is limited to 4 players. most mmo will let you group up with up to 40 players (or in Eve Online even 1000s)

 

[CMDR_LS]

At least CP2077 actually worked for me on launch, Orange Sidewinder all day baby.

Also defending this launch in any form is pretty laughable.

sometimes I wonder who works harder...

the developers at Frontier or the Order of The White Knights

 

[Bigmaec]

I

sometimes I wonder who works harder...

the developers at Frontier or the Order of The White Knights

I can confirm I work pretty hard on the forums these days.

 

[VR Jay Le Chardon]

sometimes I wonder who works harder...

the developers at Frontier or the Order of The White Knights

 

[danteuk]

Green blob became blue blob, bugged route plotter and failed saved key binds
so you didnt bother fixing any of the bad UI decisions?
It still looks like alpha
Any fix for AA?
Odyssey still very dark
Major texture issue
was there an optimisation pass at all?

And much more... all the bugs and problems that were reported by players during the alpha seem to be still present in the release.

I had to double check the date on this, my first thought was it was posted in March 2022, but apparently it was May 2021, how little has changed since then.
I don't think any of those points has truly been fixed, but instead we got:

• Some of the UI still look worse than Horizons but at least they appear to be fully functional now.
• Emotes ( something that should have been in from start )
• a new SRV
• The ability to actually sit at the bar ( something that should have been in from start )

Maybe when Odyssey's One Year birthday happens in a couple of months time all these problems will be fixed and we can look back and laugh ( No, I won't place any money on that happening! )

 

[Tormentor89]

Cyberpunk 2077 for PC was in much better shape on launch day than Odyssey is. This isn't hyperbole.

It's unfortunate these types of tactics work on people.