Frontier Should Abandon "OPEN" Mode to Save Elite

[Rubbernuke]

If the OP of the Flash Topic thread had not had Open only as one of the proposals then it would very likely have been introduced by many of the participants in that thread.

That notwithstanding, the ensuing focus on one particular part of the suite of proposals, whether in support or opposition, swamped the feedback on the rest of the proposals - proposals which seemed to be well received and not at all controversial (and could have benefited all participants in the feature had they been implemented a bit over three years ago).

And again, aside from the anti 5C the rest of what Sandro suggested relied on Open to really work as suggested.

Without open uncapped UM would make for even more grind in solo, unified fort direction would be pointless, just as lowering the BGS footprint would be pointless. These synergistically work with open to bring people together by condensing down the areas Powerplay works in, and (in uncapped UM) makes it a magnet for players.

 

[Thorfinnsen]

The problem with the Open version is that it basically forces newbies to be targets of griefers, with no downside or restriction to the griefing of other players. Usually in games when there is open pvp the creators at least try to implement cheat detection of some sort. Frontier does not as far as I can see. Frontier does not implement any tangible punishment for murder against CMDRs without bounties. IMO the game is much easier for the grief gits, actually, it's as if Frontier rewards and protects them. So if I have to give up the social aspects to not have obnoxious gits forcing me into their style of play, I will.

 

[Hooplah]

Just turn off the servers, it's the only way to be sure.

Ripley : I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

In case some wondered where the quote came from.

 

[Redrick Schuhart]

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Hypocrisy detected (OP posted this prior to this discussion)

woops

 

[MickyG1982]

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Hypocrisy detected (OP posted this prior to this discussion)

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My guess would be that the OP eventually came across someone in open and had their stuff taken...

 

[Redrick Schuhart]

My guess would be that the OP eventually came across someone in open and had their stuff taken...

Well, he clearly wants the online experience (as seen in his another post above), but here in this topic he outright decided it's better to remove Open altogether. It's not like in the other game he mentioned people don't do violent things to eachother.
Might be a clever bait to provoke people. 99% sure it is

 

[Brrokk]

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[gorankar]

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Well, he clearly wants the online experience (as seen in his another post above), but here in this topic he outright decided it's better to remove Open altogether. It's not like in the other game he mentioned people don't do violent things to eachother.
Might be a clever bait to provoke people. 99% sure it is

OP was most likely just making fun of the people that post those open only / open weighted threads that pop up seemingly weekly, if not daily. Despite the belief of the people posting those threads, or pushing OO, that it is otherwise, they sound just as silly. "My farcebook/cruditt group agrees with me!" lol. Might as well say "I and my many friends" and write an open letter with an ultimatum inside for how little value it has. Oh lawd, I just invoked the Bamezon!

Anyway, PP, after CQC of course, has got to be one of the features most abandoned by the Dev that this game has. You almost have to go into those cesspits of social retardation that are Farcebook and cRuddit, or join some discord or three to play it effectively in any seriously contested area.

 

[Nepeta Uchiha]

This thread made me laugh. It's really not hard to evade gankers. Just hit silent running and high wake out. Taking heat damage is better than dying to some bored idiot.

 

[LeoBartlet]

I feel in order to prevent this subject rearing its head the best option is to remove people from the game. Odyssey obviously got the ball rolling on that front

 

[Lord Rak]

Nothing needs to be changed !!! Cut it out with a play mode changes !!!

 

[Amanojaku]

This thread made me laugh. It's really not hard to evade gankers. Just hit silent running and high wake out. Taking heat damage is better than dying to some bored idiot.

This might work against a ganker with a missle boat but I wouldn't recommend it otherwise. Gankers know what they're doing. Night vision counters silent running, and if they are using a laser with emissive it'll just be like attempting to run away shieldless.

4 pips to SYS. 2 to ENG. Boost twice (more if you can). High wake. If you have decent Shields usually the only thing that will stop you from running is grom bombs (FSD disruption).

 

[hunvagy]

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[Redrick Schuhart]

Or he could be making a correct observation.

I never said he wasn't. But that contradicts the whole 'Remove Open' narrative

You carebears might get your wish via FDev's indifference.

I wouldn't use the words 'you' and 'carebears' replying to my posts. I've made 1 billion credits just by doing piracy on players. I think I deserve not to be called that. And i see the problem you're referring to.
I'm all for Open play despite the gankers and lack of common sense in some of the fights i see in Deciat or CG systems (I never participated in either of those unironically). But I hate hypocrisy more than anything.

 

[XhaleR]

I like the fact that I always have the option to play in open and fight some gankers now and then, or to play safe in solo or my PG's (as I usually do). I guess that's why they (still) call it Elite "Dangerous". There's always a choice, cmdr, but to totally remove the OPEN mode is certainly not one of them. Change to Solo or PG if you can't handle it!

 

[CMD Worbly Blorble]

Where do you go in open that you actually see people? I play in open exclusively and I only see pilots if I go to a well known mining hotspot or an event location. I've never even been attacked once by an actual player.

As for the OP, absolutely no way they will ever remove open. I can't believe you think that is a solution. Fragment the player base into nothing but private groups. I wish I saw people playing more often. Its way more interesting when there are other people involved to cause some chaos.

 

[veryDead]

Elite doesn't need to be saved. Therefore no change is needed.

 

[Mersozz]

At least I have stuff to read while Odyssey is optimized.

 

[insanephoton]

Captain, please bring me my wine.

 

[Chaparral]

It doesn't matter what mode you're in. It's not doom. It's just irrelevant.
If you want pvp, or even any multiplayer social game experience, there are other options to explore.
This isn't a dead horse, it's the memory of a dead horse at this point.