Consoles will not go anywhere, but they will probably change into pure frontends for game streaming services instead of being standalone gaming machines in the next generation. Gaming PCs look as if they're getting at least one more iteration, though a brand new late 2022/early 2023 gaming PC will be a new kind of monster. Looks very much like the new line of CPUs and GPUs will get just as power hungry as previously only triple and quad SLI systems were.
Frontier talk the future of Elite Dangerous and its controversial Odyssey expansion "We're not trying to be done with Odyssey." [RockPaperShotgun]
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Yeah the article didn't really give much away some vague stuff , but then again it's Fdev . They keep their cards close to the chest . I think they are still hurting after a year + and still being slated ?
As for the exploration , I wonder if we will reply on a certain Group "finding" stuff after being tipped off ?? Or will it be actual explorers ??? If it's proper explorers then a big yes because in my opinion we need some big love .
Again we shall wait and see the plus is that they are actually speaking to the gaming media which is a huge step .
As for the exploration , I wonder if we will reply on a certain Group "finding" stuff after being tipped off ?? Or will it be actual explorers ??? If it's proper explorers then a big yes because in my opinion we need some big love .
Again we shall wait and see the plus is that they are actually speaking to the gaming media which is a huge step .
Horizons is doomed...
Bit pointless really, unless it's a Tritium tender, everything else has a ship for it. And you can mod them using loadouts, engineering and ship kits to customise them for any task.
Would be nicer if they put resources into new activities people want, like base building.
Hard to prove anything either way, but let's be realistic - when making such story not every outcome would be spectacular - and they wanted spectacular ending to that story arc. They've committed resources to make the cutscene - prepared assets, placed them, coded the whole thing, which apparently was some incredible feat of programming - they've even made whole stream patting themselves on the back and repeating how mind blowingly great all that was (that part was actually mind blowing). They were not going to let players ruin that work, or make themselves work on other endings that were not going to be used.
Maybe very early during the story there was a point when it could have gone in some slightly different direction (although I would be cautious thinking that this direction would be very different- If Salvation would have lost support at some point, he might have done everything the same anyway, just alone, or even against everyone - after all one of the goals was obviously to anger Thargoids and to make fighting them harder for players, which Proteus Wave was designed for), but once this decision was made, player influence on the story was illusory. Since then we've had months of numerous CGs that were supposed to be part of the narrative, but were just filling the time until the final cinematic would be shown. That's my biggest complaint. For example, how many weeks of fighting Thargoids to allow for superweapon to get ready when it was all predetermined? Am I to believe that if players would fail, Frontier would scrap this ending? Unlikely. Did completing those CG did anything? It only made the children busy, thinking they were doing something important, while adults prepared the main party event.
I believe players might have slightly bigger influence in stories smaller in scale - but their need to have this grand finale really tied fdev hands here.
A new "bubble" or three like Colonia, out in the black, would be a very welcome addition to the game!
Maybe have them be long lost generation colonies which take several CGs to establish contact and trading rights with etc
Indeed we'd take a crumb of new content right now, I'm still hopefully Frontier "return" to console development, as I've posted in other threads and on YouTube etc...Everyone forgot the consoles. The future of gaming, etc... (still missing the upgrade for XSX/PS5) ... Cookie?
Hopefully once they get on top of Odyssey, they release the game in full along with Odyssey and any other new content on "next gen" consoles, all that they can on "last gen" consoles, while crossplay would be a great bonus!
I enjoyed reading that article. It's been a while since I've seen Frontier engage in some PR for Odyssey. It just confirms to me that FDev are now happy with the state of Odyssey - finally! - and are looking forward to the future. I agree! U13 was a winner for me; the game has never felt better. There is still more improvements needed but Odyssey is in a much better place than it was earlier in the year. o7
Probably what all the permit-locked clusters of sectors are for, dotted around the galaxy. Other civilisations which will be at least in part hand-coded.A new "bubble" or three like Colonia, out in the black, would be a very welcome addition to the game!
Maybe have them be long lost generation colonies which take several CGs to establish contact and trading rights with etc
As I've said elsewhere, not everybody has a PC powerful enough to play Elite, nor crucially wants to play 99% of their games on PC.
I want to play my games on my family of systems of choice, Playstation and wish in particular that the game was coming out for PS5!
What?!
The PS5 and Switch are both currently selling record breaking numbers, both outpacing the best selling console of all time, the PS2, consoles have never been MORE popular!
I reckon we'll have consoles for many years to come, which indeed places Frontier in a strange position of either not being interested in, or not being able to, release Elite on PS5 and X Series X!
Odyssey launched too early, but they've done a lot of work to fix stuff and add new content. The only things missing imo is Thargoids on foot, Panther Clipper LX and maybe VR mode.
The longer they spend working on Odyssey the longer we wait for the next expansion and ship interiors.
The longer they spend working on Odyssey the longer we wait for the next expansion and ship interiors.
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Oh, absolutely - the last six-to-nine months of the Azimuth story were definitely on rails in the strict terms of "would the Proteus Wave get built and fired?" - and I agree that it's quite possible that had players supported Aegis to take control of the Proteus site and/or Tanner to attack Taurus, it would still have been fired, just not in the same circumstances or at the same targets. But there's a big spectrum between "all player actions are irrelevant to the outcome" and "players have total control over the narrative".
The NMLA arc - which didn't require anywhere near as much investment in new feature development - I think had far more branching possibilities as a result:
- Antal vs Sirius to host the peace conference: it's going to get interrupted by the Nine Martyr's attack either way, of course, but note that since Sirius' victory they've played a pretty substantial role and Antal has made two or three background remarks to Galnet to remind people he's alive.
- first battle of Muhdrid: first chance to actually support the NMLA, if players had shown significant support for the side offering to bring down the superpowers, expose their conspiracies, free the people, etc. (and hey, it worked pretty well for Salome, right? [1]) then that might have gone somewhere
- Hadrian Duval framed: Galnet outright said - with what I read as some disappointment - that if he'd been captured an inter-superpower war was a possibility
- Marlinist BGS adoption and victory: I think they'd have had great difficulty portraying the colonies as self-sufficient and politically viable without this; but then, if they hadn't got that visible player backing, no-one would have really cared if the end of the arc had them return to the Empire anyway.
- Marlinist ambassador election: if the NMLA had got a rep onto the Senate, they might have been able to shut down the joint task force before they could expose the involvement of Imperial Intelligence. Fairfax would obviously have survived, too.
- second battle of Muhdrid: it's pretty much over by now for them, but we could have let Theta Seven escape to be a recurring antagonist at least.
And in the more minor arcs I think there's been even more choice. Rochester got locked up rather than providing a third power base in the Federation - so now Rackham is filling that gap on behalf of a different conspiracy; Grom escaped immediately rather than potentially a whole story arc around his capture; no-one particularly cared about Torval's mining endeavours, so even though they were mostly successful that storyline hasn't really gone anywhere; the breakaway Federal factions didn't attract any significant public support post-independence - and lots were quietly stomped down by Federal loyalists - so the Federation just collapses the usual way.
[1] It is pretty amusing how much "designated protagonist" turns out to work on players. Without that, anyone trying to bring down the superpowers gets "What - apart from killing your family, torturing you, oppressing your entire system and committing genocide - have the superpowers ever done to deserve you attacking them? Die, criminal scum!"
God, please no. People would demand that these new Colonias behave like the bubble, have the same content, the same amount of CGs and the same amount of story related content. It's basically for space hipsters who want all the comfort of the bubble but still be able to say they are "different" than the rest.A new "bubble" or three like Colonia, out in the black, would be a very welcome addition to the game!
Maybe have them be long lost generation colonies which take several CGs to establish contact and trading rights with etc
Have you visited the equivalent of Jameson's in Colonia?God, please no. People would demand that these new Colonias behave like the bubble, have the same content, the same amount of CGs and the same amount of story related content. It's basically for space hipsters who want all the comfort of the bubble but still be able to say they are "different" than the rest.
ETA: There isn't one, there are no outlets for Imperial Ships (although the Imperial Eagle did appear briefly - long story) not for the Corvette... In the last few days players in Colonia joined together to retake Carcosa from SECD, bringing a selection of Federation ships, Alliance ships and the T10 back onto the shipyard market. (of course, SECD/CIDE are now working hard to remove thos ships from the market once more)
Colinia isn't just another bubble with a bunch of Hipsters claiming they are different while wanting things exactly the same, have you ever even visited?
Currently ICU and SECD/CIDE are in dialogue to 'arrange' a fairer distribution of controlled systems between themselves, the small player factions have been pushed from control of their own systems by 2 huge player groups, fun, innit?
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Well it'd surely better than dragging people across the galaxy every time there's something new to equip, while giving the game's Universe more life and diversity, but maybe that's too much like hard work for the Devs!God, please no. People would demand that these new Colonias behave like the bubble, have the same content, the same amount of CGs and the same amount of story related content. It's basically for space hipsters who want all the comfort of the bubble but still be able to say they are "different" than the rest.
Agree! Colonia should be nuked.