Take your own advice.
Frontier, tell me, who came up with those ideas. Really.
- Thread starter Adyaphede
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Take your own advice.
Robert Maynard
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An escape pod is not going to have space for any cargo.
Those are consequences of one's actions - not to be avoided, possibly to be deferred for a while depending on which jurisdiction any fines / bounties are in and which station one's escape pod returns to on ejection.
You are not supposed to comment on moderation. Moderator snipped out a short sentence that was patronizing. No hate I can asure you
Well if you're going to ignore things, then I guess there's no point in continuing trying to discuss things with you.
Just do what I do and add them to your ignore list. There's no sense in discussing things that can change with people who only want to see things "not change" and take pleasure in other's misery. The only thing the dev's said in clarification is that the loss of your un-turned in bounties won't change anytime soon to "encourage risk vs. reward game play." Basically, it's going to take about 6 months of people losing everything and either quitting or hiding in solo mode before they re-evaluate this aspect of things. Every game gets more "player friendly" over time... or else it becomes niche at best.
I really like the "Black Box" idea someone posted earlier either in this thread or another, as it adds an actual game play element to death, vs. just being a punishment/failure state.
As it's been said before, if you will not be losing your data, traders will say that losing their cargo is unfair.
I agree that "data cannot be stored in escape pod" does not sound logical, but gameplay-wise I am okay with this.
Hmm no, recovering partial data raises the same question - if you could save it, why didn't you save it to a reliable USB 33.0 drive and put it in your pocket? Either save everything, or lose everything.
In any case, the solution for this problem I like the most is a recoverable black box. Especially if others could scoop it and either submit it to the authorities for a small reward (which would cause you to receive all your exploration rewards and bounties) or hack it (on the black market?) to get these rewards for themselves.
And the black box can even be damaged over time, making part of the data unreadable...
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If you can click the "system map" button on the galaxy map, then you have the data and you've already explored them. If you can't click it, the system is not explored.
System map only reveals discovered astral objects (scanned or not), so you don't know from the system map if you explored the whole system or just visited it.
Frustrating and stupid
After been playing for a while there are a few things in this game that really makes me frustrated.
When hunting pirates, its always nice to get some help from the federation security ships EXCEPT when they fly into you and YOU get the 400 credits fine for their bad pilot skills.. And when you get back to pay that fine, its not 400 anymore, its 600!!! why ??
It also happens that, when the pirate is down to 1-3 % they fly so close to him, that you accidentally hit them with a round or two trying to finish off that pirate before anyone else does. (or they just fly crossing your line of fire in such speed you dont see it before its too late), and also receive a fine for 400 that actually is 600 when you pay it <snip>
If you are in real bad luck, they start hunting you as well immediately, <snip>
But the worst about all this is that your rep with Federation is falling with giant leaps while gaining rep is taking for ever.
Wish there was a warning first or a way to tell them it was an accident and not intentionally. Then we could avoid these unnecessary fines and wanted statuses.
Anyone else have the same thoughts ?
After been playing for a while there are a few things in this game that really makes me frustrated.
When hunting pirates, its always nice to get some help from the federation security ships EXCEPT when they fly into you and YOU get the 400 credits fine for their bad pilot skills.. And when you get back to pay that fine, its not 400 anymore, its 600!!! why ??
It also happens that, when the pirate is down to 1-3 % they fly so close to him, that you accidentally hit them with a round or two trying to finish off that pirate before anyone else does. (or they just fly crossing your line of fire in such speed you dont see it before its too late), and also receive a fine for 400 that actually is 600 when you pay it <snip>
If you are in real bad luck, they start hunting you as well immediately, <snip>
But the worst about all this is that your rep with Federation is falling with giant leaps while gaining rep is taking for ever.
Wish there was a warning first or a way to tell them it was an accident and not intentionally. Then we could avoid these unnecessary fines and wanted statuses.
Anyone else have the same thoughts ?
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Had this happen to me last night. Saw I had a 26k bounty to collect in Empire space.
Closest to me was 60Ly and I'm flying a Viper(? next ship from sidewinder, think viper) had a screen and a half full of star data and bounties.
Probably 140k total. A lot for me.
Ran out of gas. Ha!
No fuel scoop. Ha!
So re-bought the new ship after self destructing and cringed a little about the data and bounty.
Bought a fuel scoop!
And carried on towards my destination, for no reason except just to get there now.
Closest to me was 60Ly and I'm flying a Viper(? next ship from sidewinder, think viper) had a screen and a half full of star data and bounties.
Probably 140k total. A lot for me.
Ran out of gas. Ha!
No fuel scoop. Ha!
So re-bought the new ship after self destructing and cringed a little about the data and bounty.
Bought a fuel scoop!
And carried on towards my destination, for no reason except just to get there now.
It seems that exploration data you collect and sell to the UC Dept decays over time too. Re-visited an old familiar system from a few weeks back, and was required/able to rescan all the exact same hidden planets, belts and clusters... even the main star. I had died since then though as the only reasonable justification I can think of to explain it...
To be fair while this seems a good idea now once the Thargoids arrive it will seem to be the most ridiculous idea ever.
It makes sense to me that you can rescan systems again in the future, just as multiple people can sell data for the same systems. Just how much information could one scan of a planet collect? The more data on a system, the better the profile that can be collated - no two scans would ever be the same, these are planets we're talking about. A ten second scan really isn't going to tell you much. Lots of ten second scans can build up a reasonable picture.
With regards to the dying, this is one of the main attractions of Elite to me. You need to be aware of what you will lose when you die - and if you lose a large amount of bounty or data, then you are the only one to blame - you could have sold it on before it got to that stage. The times I've run with not enough insurance (which is generally due to a cargo run), the fact that I'd lose everything if I died simply makes me more careful (run from encounters, no stupid moves when docking). And on a couple of occasions I did die and lost everything. Yes, I was exceptionally annoyed - but at myself, not the game - the rules are known, you can't blame them. At the point that dying becomes cheap (as it is in most games these days), then Elite will be dead to me.
I think he was simply pointing out, that maybe YOU should keep a note of where you've gone what you've done, keep a diary or something, do you have a diary in your real life or do you have a personal assistant thats does everything for you?
Nothing is static the data changes as people mine the system, factions battle for power over the system etc etc.
you are selling them updated data, This new data you sell to them makes sure the data they are selling on is upto date.