Frontier- You Have My Support

[lysan]

There are always two sides to a story.

Any successful businessman need to be an A-hole at some point, to be a all cheery guy is not possible unless people are walking all over you. That do not mean you are a ducebag all the time, it's just how life is mkay.

 

[lysan]

I am a bit disgruntled but I think it's because I'm almost done with the game, unless vast amounts of new content is added. That's fine though, I've certainly gotten my money's worth!!

If one feels this way it's better to move on to greener pastures and leave the old fields behind, why even bother to hang around unless it's to keep digging up old bones?

 

[NecoMachina]

Any successful businessman need to be an A-hole at some point, to be a all cheery guy is not possible unless people are walking all over you. That do not mean you are a ducebag all the time, it's just how life is mkay.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

Let's see your metrics to back that up? No? Don't have any?

Doesn't need metrics. Just use your own eyes.

I can give you good reason.. They're embarrassed to come on face the players they're accountable to? Constant release filled with bugs. Some small some glaringly obvious to the smallest amount of testing.

The fact that FDev just had the own expo talking to the community kind of nullifies your argument here.

See above. Maybe if the devs and the FDev management in particular, should had a good look at themselves compared to other professional coders and project managers, they'd see they'd be fired for gross negligence and being unfit for the job.

Really. I very much doubt it. That would mean most games would be firing all their staff.

This is laughable!! Do you normally invest in triplicate in Vapourware?

What vapourware is that. The game is as described.

vapourware meaning:software or hardware that has been advertised but is not yet available to buy, either because it is only a concept or because it is still being written or designed.
That is not what ED is.

List 5 things that made it better in the 2.4 release? I'll list you the same number of pathetic bugs.

While I am sure there are some bugs I haven't come across any yet myself. As to five things that have improved, just look at the patch notes. There is loads that has improved.

You're entitled to your opinion as am I

Of course you are. But when your opinion is based on a load of untruths and disinformation, expect to get ridiculled. Not saying yours are, just that there seems to be a lot out there.

 

[[VR] optimal_909]

And yet you DID stop into Dangerous, just to call people whiners. Why is it that the majority of the name-calling seems to come from those that have nothing but positive to say about the game? Just stop, please? Post your positive vibes or whatever, but PLEASE stop the name-calling. Seriously.

I expected this comment - I stopped by because this thread was at the top hence it was shown in the standard overview. And for the record, I came back to see how it went.

I've said negative things about some aspects of the game and have posted bug reportings too. I'm only calling whining what is whining, not constructive criticism. You know what I mean, the 'I'm quitting'-like threads and people who self confess not having played for 6 months and still posting here about how Elite is the worst thing to happen to humanity, ever.

 

[NecoMachina]

I expected this comment - I stopped by because this thread was at the top hence it was shown in the standard overview. And for the record, I came back to see how it went.

I've said negative things about some aspects of the game and have posted bug reportings too. I'm only calling whining what is whining, not constructive criticism. You know what I mean, the 'I'm quitting'-like threads and people who self confess not having played for 6 months and still posting here about how Elite is the worst thing to happen to humanity, ever.

Ah, gotcha. Ya there are some posts that seem to go over the top with the negativity, I agree. Please excuse me - I get shouted down by people who can't stand to see criticism of the game so often it's sometimes hard to tell what's what sometimes. o7

 

[S3B4ST13N]

-nevermind-

 

[sollisb]

Doesn't need metrics. Just use your own eyes.


The fact that FDev just had the own expo talking to the community kind of nullifies your argument here.

Really. I very much doubt it. That would mean most games would be firing all their staff.


What vapourware is that. The game is as described.

vapourware meaning:software or hardware that has been advertised but is not yet available to buy, either because it is only a concept or because it is still being written or designed.
That is not what ED is.


While I am sure there are some bugs I haven't come across any yet myself. As to five things that have improved, just look at the patch notes. There is loads that has improved.


Of course you are. But when your opinion is based on a load of untruths and disinformation, expect to get ridiculled. Not saying yours are, just that there seems to be a lot out there.

Your entire list of replies are disingenuous.

Use my own eyes? Using my own eyes I see many many bugs..

FDev having a XPO means absolutely FA !! You had to pay to go to it !! And then they marketed their vaporware. Which is exactly what Expo's are for so, meh. yeh..

Firing their staff? They should. The problem these days is that people buy a game and rarely return it and ask for their money back. They play the game dislike it, and shelve it. How-ever lets not forget that Fdev did have many returns.. And lost quite a bit of money from it.

Vapourware.. We're gong to do this, and this, and this... Let me see it.. We're eh, developing it. Vapourware.

Some bugs? LOLS !!!!
Missions - Bugged to hell and back
Changes to player messages - Bugged !
NPC AI - Bugged !
Galaxy graphics - Bugged !
Docking - Bugged ! Still !
MultiCrew - Bugged !
Scan Missions - Bugged !
Passenger Missions - So bugged they required an emergency rework!
Will I go on ?

I've been using forums since the days of BBSs. I know to stay with facts and opinions. I do not use (known untruths) for debate.

 

[Gutfright]

I like Elite. On my list of likes it comes just after alcohol and just before, "The Big Bang Theory"

 

[S3B4ST13N]

Vapourware.. We're gong to do this, and this, and this... Let me see it.. We're eh, developing it. Vapourware.

Bethesda: We're developing Fallout 5; pre-order now.
Sollisb: Let me see it right now.
Bethesda: We're still developing it...
Solissb: VAPOURWARE SCUM!

 

[Augustus]

And my Gimbal Mounted Phased Plasma Canon in the Forty Gigawatt Range...

Though I can't say I've been Ingame Countless Hours, (Glances at Right Panel) 12ish Weeks seems to sum it up...

Been playing since Open Beta though not Continuously, RL does Love the Curve Ball...
And moving into a neighborhood that only has access to Crap Broadband doesn't help.

Is E.D. Perfect? No...

But I do Love the Game.

I only hold a single License at the moment, though I expect this to change Soon.
My two young Sons have been pressuring me about wanting to Fly some of my Hard Earned Ships... And THAT Ain't Happening.
[smile]
So I know I'll be springing for at least Two more Licenses before too long.

One Son For The Light!
One Son For The Darkness!
And their Pirate Father to Balance The Galaxy!!!

See y'all out in The Black...

-Gus

 

[sollisb]

Bethesda: We're developing Fallout 5; pre-order now.
Sollisb: Let me see it right now.
Bethesda: We're still developing it...
Solissb: VAPOURWARE SCUM!

Why are you bringing Bethesda into this?

When you get out of school and enter the real world you might then understand.

And finally, I'll thank you not attribute derogatory remarks under my name. Do it again and I'll report you.

 

[Mot]

I'm not a KS, I didn't discover it in time, but I am a Beta Backer and a LEP holder. I used to play the original Elite (quite a bit considering we lost the manual filled with the keys to access the game... I used to guess the password) on Atari ST in the 80s when I was in primary school. I was actually googling Atari emulators and games I had played when I was young, when I discovered the modern incarnation of Elite was in beta. So I bought in. I pretty much got what I thought was a modern overhaul of the original game. So I didn't play much as I felt it was lacking somewhat, for a new game in 2014 anyway. Although I did follow its development and more was added and eventually Horizons, which I really wanted and so I elected to buy a LEP because I had cash at the time and because I had been reading about the future of ED and really liked the way it sounded. I still didn't play much.

When I bought the beta I figured I may as well upgrade my PC so as to enjoy the game the way it was meant to be played. My laptop was struggling even with the beta so I built a brand spanking new 'budget' gaming computer. I honestly had about 50 hours in game until I bought a Rift this year in May. Now as you may or may not know a 'budget' computer wont run VR too well so there was more upgrading before I bought the Rift too. Not to mention the cost of the Rift. Since May I've put in well over 200 hours - that's pretty impressive for me who rarely gets into games that much. Especially MMOs. Especially taking into account how many times I've been sick with the flu this winter and been unable to play in VR. This last few weeks I picked up a nice HOTAS, not a *really* nice one, but still a nice one. Now I'm playing every day. And I want more upgrades to make the experience even better.

I must admit that there's bugs, and space still feels a little empty (pun intended) ...but now I love it, VR and HOTAS have sealed the deal, and I'm glad I walked the road of investment and optimism. It was worth the wait. I've probably got my $1 an hour game play that so many people quote as far as buying Elite is concerned. Hardware works for other games I play too so it doesn't count, but enjoying Elite more was often a deciding factor in spending. I must admit I was a little worried about the dropping of the seasons model my LEP purchase was based on, and as we don't know how the future will pan out for LEP holders (do we? I haven't seen anything) I am a little concerned about getting *my* monies worth (I don't really follow the dollar an hour model myself, I'm about actual enjoyment). That LEP was expensive. Sure I think its great that all Horizons owners get next years content free, as it is things that should be a part of Horizons *and* maybe it will help lessen the woeful negativity in the main forum. I almost never go there because of it. I've never once had a whinge about how, in the past, I personally have felt about the lack of compelling content.

Other than I am looking forward to Beyond, I'm not going to comment on anything else as I don't follow closely enough to have an informed opinion.

 

[Ian Phillips]

Why are you bringing Bethesda into this?

When you get out of school and enter the real world you might then understand.

And finally, I'll thank you not attribute derogatory remarks under my name. Do it again and I'll report you.

Keep these sort of posts up and you'll be the one being reported!

 

[shadragon]

Keep these sort of posts up and you'll be the one being reported!

Ian. I think this thread has run its course and is degenerating.

You may close this thread if you feel it's getting off topic.

Thanks.

 

[Ian Phillips]

Ok.

Closed.