Get it all out toinght...

Then come back tomorrow with a positive vibe because we need you. If this negativity spreads and continues we'll get exactly what we fear, a very short ride. There's a ton to like here and if they polish up what's available right now it's offers gameplay you can't find any where else. I'm sure FD would like to wait until everything discussed was implemented but that's not the real world. In the real world, a retail company can't miss a holiday cycle. We need a good launch and the rest will take care of it self. Come on commanders, the galaxy is yours and it's just around the corner...
 
Then come back tomorrow with a positive vibe because we need you. If this negativity spreads and continues we'll get exactly what we fear, a very short ride. There's a ton to like here and if they polish up what's available right now it's offers gameplay you can't find any where else. I'm sure FD would like to wait until everything discussed was implemented but that's not the real world. In the real world, a retail company can't miss a holiday cycle. We need a good launch and the rest will take care of it self. Come on commanders, the galaxy is yours and it's just around the corner...

Yes we are almost there.

We not seen the full game yet and some are already stacking the wood up against the stake and rousing the angry mob for a good witch burning..

God we are a passionate lot..

I just hope the satisfy the majority and this game becomes one of the greats.

There will always be winners and losers they will never satisfy 100%

Zen
 
Positivity required from FD, NOT MARKETING.

Come on commanders, the galaxy is yours and it's just around the corner...

...internet connection required.


FD need to be positive, and you know, lead by example, then we can all follow.

Looking forward to the positive communication any time now.
 
Then come back tomorrow with a positive vibe because we need you. If this negativity spreads and continues we'll get exactly what we fear, a very short ride. There's a ton to like here and if they polish up what's available right now it's offers gameplay you can't find any where else. I'm sure FD would like to wait until everything discussed was implemented but that's not the real world. In the real world, a retail company can't miss a holiday cycle. We need a good launch and the rest will take care of it self. Come on commanders, the galaxy is yours and it's just around the corner...

FD have my full support,but I fear that the angry mob is going to destroy this game for us all.
 
I understand people are upset, disappointed and with cause. If you don't have a connection that really does suck and I hear you so vent and morn your loss. But tomorrow, this game is still going to be game that's closest to what you want to play. For most of us, we need to get back in and help this game go the distance. I want to see those features in the DDA added. I want to see 3, 4, 5 expansions and that only happens with the support from a great community.
 
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It's 4.30am, I'm sober and still defending Frontier Dev and Elite Dangerous best I can (and I can criticise them for stupid decisions with the best of them). But I think I have to call it a night.
 
Nah this is just a forum, the haven of the moaners. Their singularly personal views can't overcome how good Elite looks on youtube (Alpha/beta vids), how good it is now and how good it will be in a few weeks time. FD has made/is making possible something for both multiplayer and solo player that exceeds my expectations (the hidden majority of approvers :D).
As for DRM my experience is not negative, I think Rise of Flight was the last DRM game I played and was probably the best flight sim I've ever played, no problems except a lot of the guys want to fly over Stalingrad now :p
I doubt we'll be playing it in 10 years time, people like Chris Roberts and may thin the ranks and FD may come up with sequels that make use of a new generation of machines, but for now I want to see how far I can go in this galaxy :)
 
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Then come back tomorrow with a positive vibe because we need you. If this negativity spreads and continues we'll get exactly what we fear, a very short ride. There's a ton to like here and if they polish up what's available right now it's offers gameplay you can't find any where else. I'm sure FD would like to wait until everything discussed was implemented but that's not the real world. In the real world, a retail company can't miss a holiday cycle. We need a good launch and the rest will take care of it self. Come on commanders, the galaxy is yours and it's just around the corner...

it is another day yet ^^

i just woke up *yawn* maybe i better come back to the forum on monday and just enjoy the weekend ;)
 
Some people run through life desperately seeking stuff to be offended by. Elite isn't an exception.

Personally I think the developers have done a pretty good job. I'd rather have a polished game with fewer features than a feature-crammed bug fest.

Cheers, Phos.
 
I cannot agree. Not everyone is going to just chill out. Some will let their emotions boil and fester because that's what we do best....or at least really really well.

I have to say I feel you are stoking some of it for no good reason than personal fun. I hope, for the sake of everyone on the forum, that you might stop.
 
Then come back tomorrow with a positive vibe because we need you. If this negativity spreads and continues we'll get exactly what we fear, a very short ride. There's a ton to like here and if they polish up what's available right now it's offers gameplay you can't find any where else. I'm sure FD would like to wait until everything discussed was implemented but that's not the real world. In the real world, a retail company can't miss a holiday cycle. We need a good launch and the rest will take care of it self. Come on commanders, the galaxy is yours and it's just around the corner...

Tonight was, unfortunately, a big deal for me. It crushed what I wanted ED to be, and expected it to be.

With utmost respect, they've confirmed how offline would work since the Kickstarter. I know you're a developer, I work for a developer, I don't really feel this was communicated to users when it should have been.

I'm quite upset as I intended to play ED in solo while my brother, in Mexico City currently, played in offline mode. Sharing stories, information, etc. I have persuaded people like him to buy the game, I feel like I supported it more deeply and lied to people by telling them that it would have a completely offline mode. There is no way they found out about this today, so giving me the information today? I feel disrespected and I feel sick that I gave wrong information to others, who went onto spend their money.

Judging by Michael's comment about refunds I feel I am wasting my time posting about this, but I also feel I need to do it to stop myself feeling sad about this. I have such fond memories of sitting in my friends house as we both played Elite II single player obviously on our Amigas, talking about the upgrade or ship we just bought, where we were, what rank we just reached, etc. I wanted that with ED and all of a sudden I can't have it, despite backing specifically for that opportunity.

Ok, so let us stop with the crappy car metaphors and tell is like it is. This is my story:

You backed for a DRM free game on kickstarter than would have a fully offline mode, as confirmed before the kickstarter ended and your money was taken. You wanted a game to replace Elite II, which was a static universe and something you played for years, you wanted something you could play regardless of servers being up or down, and that you could get a boxed copy for to keep forever, alongside the boxed copies of the other games you kept.

You upgraded your pledge after Kickstarter. You bought other things like a t shirt, signed artwork, signed starmap, etc, as well.

You started posting videos of yourself playing ED, answered many questions confirming to others that ED would have a fully offline mode.

You've actively posted all over the place, pulled many of your friends into the game, you have almost 1000 subscribers, most of whom follow you for ED vids, who all that have asked, have been informed of a fully offline but static universe version (which although static, is just like Elite II - was that somehow a bad game because of that?)

After many months, ONE MONTH before release, you are informed that everything you have done since your first decision, the decision based off 1 piece of information, is now incorrect. You've informed people about something that no longer exists. You gave money for a specific thing, something that although the vision of online interaction is great, you didn't want (I'd have been happy with FE2 with a graphics upgrade) it. You wanted what you paid for.

I think an apology, a statement on this, would have gone a loooooong way. It feels like they said: "YAY, free ships! Isn't pizza great? This! This! This! Oh, and your cat died."

This is a core feature - gone - with 1 month left before release, announced as an afterthought in a single line of a newsletter.

This is someone this committed, positive and into ED: https://www.youtube.com/user/wheatleyt/videos

Who now feels? Well? Just sad. Very sad.
 
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For those with no connection it makes me wonder how they're accessing the forums and been playing the game to this point. Sounds like a lot of old codswallop to me.. whining for whining sakes. This is precisely the game I signed up for, been an Elite freak since 84 and aint about to stop. Just ignore the rotten apples I say! :D

Connecting to a forum vs paying a high graphical game is a little bit different.

I totally understand people being upset if the developers where promising an off line game play then at the last hour changed it... Well I would be [redacted] too.

In Australia we can go from having awesome internet to complete crap.. I am one of the lucky ones. But I still have issues due to this game being 100% online atm.

Let them vent and try our best to see both sides.

With luck it might not be as bad as they think its going to be.

We will soon know.

He's hopping they get it right for all of us.


Zen
 
No chance this will be "all out tonight". It's meant too much to too many people to just "get over it". Single biggest blunder I've personally ever been involved with.
 
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