With today's announcement of 4.0 complete separation from 3.8, in 6 days, Engineering materials (as well as everything else) will no longer be persistent between 3.8 and 4.0 in update v.14. Raw materials will be heavily affected by this unlike the other materials. More specifically, Ruthenium. ...........Crystal Shard forest from Horizons 3.8 Will NOT provide your 4.0 cmdr with materials in v.14
As a full time Odyssey player, Ruthenium has been the only High grade (G4) Raw material that I have not found any (Odyssey) Crystal Shards forest for. In my last 3 trips to the shards I have made multiple jumps in and out of the Ruthenium planet to create instances (on 'Ultra' settings for planetary generation), and have searched for hours including the edges of meteor craters... Only seen occasional 2-3 grouped shards. ALL other G4 materials have worked flawlessly in Odyssey... in fact I will say I prefer the Crystal forest in 4.0 over 3.8 (except 3.8 forest are a lot more spooky with better creepy sounds and smoke... I'll miss that). Luckily Ruthenium is only used in 5 blueprints and 1 synthesis. Fill up now, should last a long time. (if other cmdrs not having trouble with this forest please let me know).
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The rest of this post will be locations, techniques, etc. for newer players. Also areas to find undiscovered planets relatively close to the bubble.
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This takes about 6 hours for 100% on ALL Raws..
This is the way I like to keep my Raw mats topped off at 100%. Because Raws are used in engineering and synthesis, with the Stargoids due next week or so, Raws are now more important than ever.
To get fully filled up, jump your carrier 400 LY to the Selenium Brain Tree Forest (or about 8 jumps in a ship), Fill up on all 6 mats listed below. Then jump to both Crystal Shards forest... Jump back to bubble, Trade all mats straight down, Use the Brain tree Mats to fill in any gaps.... Jump back to Crystal shards, fill up again and NEVER trade the Crystals again... Go back to the Brain trees and fill back up what you used to fill in the gaps. From now on you should be (mostly) be able to keep stock close to 100% by just making the short trip to the Brain trees.
SOME TIPS
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Selenium Brain tree forest completely cover the entire planet... the map has light blue, darker blue and turquoise... you want the turquoise (flat lands)
Also this planet seems to RNG the entire planet at once, meaning if all you're getting is Polyporous growths when you touch down, then all the forest will be that (I've had mostly about 4 combinations repeat on me...
--- All mats - G1's Cordycep Growth, G2's Polyporous Growth, G3's Mussidaen Seed Pods, and G4's Phloem Excretion. (lite amount of Selenium & Zirconium and about 9 G4's per patch... everything else avail including rediculous ammount of Manganese)
--- G2's and G4's with a little bit of the other 2 sprinkled in (medium selenium and Zirconium... Always tons of Manganese)
--- G2's with lots and lots of Selenium (No exaggeration, you can fill up from 0 to 150 in about 10-15 minutes)
--- and a mix of trash low grades... in this case you 'flip-instance' like doing HGE's (launch up, charge the low wake, when the count down starts throttle down... then soon as you wake, flip immediately so it drops you about 10K up from the forest you was just at, but now with a different variety of stuff)
Bring a Remote Release Flechette launcher with you on your ship (not Flak)... This is especially fun for VR users. Get a good landing then come off the ground 1 meter, give the entire forest a couple blast and it will knock all the fruit from the trees..... VERY quickly land and hop in your SRV and run run run like crazy to scoop up all the goodies you just knocked out of the trees.... you will have about 3 minutes or something like that before they vanish. This works well for VR users because target selection is very fast with the head tracking and you need to be quick. A few items knocked lose will still be stuck in the trees so get those too before the times up.... (brain trees and Crystal forest will repopulate on a 'menu-log' so its easy to repeat practice the launcher shots... they also repopulate if you drive about 1-2k away, so you can deplete 1 forest, drive to the next one and by the time you come back the one by your ship should be full again.
Note - I always forget to bring my flechette launcher with me to the Crystals, so I'm guessing it should work there just as good as it does on brain trees and thargoid barnicles. Maybe someone can confirm or correct.
Ok the good stuff for explorers... Planet discoveries...
First - Travelers need high jump range... Explorers should use as short of range as possible that allows them to complete the journey.... Where you 'super-jumping' to my dude, you missing all the stuff right here in between!!
You will hear a lot of people tell you that you have to go 2,000 Ly's from the bubble to have tour own full solar system discoveries..... NOT TRUE!!!
In the bubble, hmm probably not but you can definitely find MANY solar systems 500LY from the bubble, Here's how... Create detours. Don't plot straight lines to any destination. If you are going to the Shards, pick an additional place you would like to visit (outside of the bubble) that takes you off the normal path that everybody and their grandpa has been on... trust me, I am 'great' grandpa age!
Here is an example from my last trip only a few days ago (with pics to prove this is still easily available NOW). I have 44 ships that I'm finishing G5 engineering on every part of the ships, So I run through mats very fast. So on this trip I took my detour North first to Visit The Bee Hive Star Cluster (location listed below) I have 8 Solar systems with about 100 planets within 500 LY of the bubble. Just have to know what you're looking for. The Main Stars will almost all be discovered already from CMDR's honking the system and moving on, and sometimes even the first planet or 2 may be discovered by proximity of the cmdr's jump... you have to keep an eye on that honk number and look at your sensor to see if things don't look right.... it says 23 bodies but you only see 1 star and 2 planets, you need to open that system map quick fast and take a count... stuff is missing, IT's Yours!... I'll post some pics of this..
CRYSTA SHARDS
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Locations (discovered by the great CMDR's who came before me) These are the popular locations everybody uses.
HIP 36601 (1,600 LY from the center of the bubble) Planets... (needs 45 LY jump range due to spread of stars to make this trip)
C1A - Polonium
C1D - Ruthenium - (forest in 3.8... Random rare scattered shards in 4.0)
C3B - Tellurium
C5A - Technetium - (also found in Brain tree forest)
...and about 600-700 LY away, might be 500, I forget.....
OUTOTZ LS-K D8-3 (1,725 LY from center of bubble)
B5C - Antimony
B5A - Yttrium
SELENIUM BRAIN TREES
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HR 3230 - Planet 3AA (399 Ly from center of bubble)
(G4's) Technetium & Selenium
(G3's) Tin & Niobium
(G2's Manganese & Zirconium (selenium appears as G2 Polyporous Growth)
by the way, there are lots of planets with crystal shard and brain tree forest... but these are popular cause they're grouped together and these brain trees have Selenium yay!
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Bee Hive Star Cluster - Praesepe (577 Ly from center of bubble) - Galileo discovery - group of young stars that look like a nebula from far because they are close to each other and very bright .
Eskimo Nebula - GCRV 4981 A (Amazing looking Nebula that surrounds just 1 star and Black Hole... no planets)
Like Loki, my brain is a bag full of cats... so I'm sure I forgot stuff that I'll add later.... Hmmm...
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OK, here's some pic of planetary discoveries not far as mentioned above from this weekend... After 8 systems within 100 LY apart, I stopped looking so I'm pretty sure there are hundreds more... These are about 100 LY north of the Bee Hive main star Praesepe, but still within the bee hive... (add some pics if you become my neighbor)...
Oh and my OCD raw mats list.... Yes I'm a little strange and divided all my mats by 3 so I could trade 'non-3' dividends to make sure the numbers would come out pretty in the end....
6 hours from mostly depleted....
use these 6 mats to top off the others so you don't have to go back to Crystals...
Plenty of undiscovered planets close by...
False Empty system, fills after scan....
Incomplete System, fills after scan...
Dated proof of many more systems available close by... I have the 'before -empty system pics' but I'm just trying to give some incentive for you to come get some of these and be my neighbor.
For those that don't have an Inara account... the first pic is showing how Inara tracks your mats... blue is what you have enough of to complete your engineering, red shows you don't have enough... you choose the blueprints you want on the site...
As a full time Odyssey player, Ruthenium has been the only High grade (G4) Raw material that I have not found any (Odyssey) Crystal Shards forest for. In my last 3 trips to the shards I have made multiple jumps in and out of the Ruthenium planet to create instances (on 'Ultra' settings for planetary generation), and have searched for hours including the edges of meteor craters... Only seen occasional 2-3 grouped shards. ALL other G4 materials have worked flawlessly in Odyssey... in fact I will say I prefer the Crystal forest in 4.0 over 3.8 (except 3.8 forest are a lot more spooky with better creepy sounds and smoke... I'll miss that). Luckily Ruthenium is only used in 5 blueprints and 1 synthesis. Fill up now, should last a long time. (if other cmdrs not having trouble with this forest please let me know).
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The rest of this post will be locations, techniques, etc. for newer players. Also areas to find undiscovered planets relatively close to the bubble.
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This takes about 6 hours for 100% on ALL Raws..
This is the way I like to keep my Raw mats topped off at 100%. Because Raws are used in engineering and synthesis, with the Stargoids due next week or so, Raws are now more important than ever.
To get fully filled up, jump your carrier 400 LY to the Selenium Brain Tree Forest (or about 8 jumps in a ship), Fill up on all 6 mats listed below. Then jump to both Crystal Shards forest... Jump back to bubble, Trade all mats straight down, Use the Brain tree Mats to fill in any gaps.... Jump back to Crystal shards, fill up again and NEVER trade the Crystals again... Go back to the Brain trees and fill back up what you used to fill in the gaps. From now on you should be (mostly) be able to keep stock close to 100% by just making the short trip to the Brain trees.
SOME TIPS
----------------
Selenium Brain tree forest completely cover the entire planet... the map has light blue, darker blue and turquoise... you want the turquoise (flat lands)
Also this planet seems to RNG the entire planet at once, meaning if all you're getting is Polyporous growths when you touch down, then all the forest will be that (I've had mostly about 4 combinations repeat on me...
--- All mats - G1's Cordycep Growth, G2's Polyporous Growth, G3's Mussidaen Seed Pods, and G4's Phloem Excretion. (lite amount of Selenium & Zirconium and about 9 G4's per patch... everything else avail including rediculous ammount of Manganese)
--- G2's and G4's with a little bit of the other 2 sprinkled in (medium selenium and Zirconium... Always tons of Manganese)
--- G2's with lots and lots of Selenium (No exaggeration, you can fill up from 0 to 150 in about 10-15 minutes)
--- and a mix of trash low grades... in this case you 'flip-instance' like doing HGE's (launch up, charge the low wake, when the count down starts throttle down... then soon as you wake, flip immediately so it drops you about 10K up from the forest you was just at, but now with a different variety of stuff)
Bring a Remote Release Flechette launcher with you on your ship (not Flak)... This is especially fun for VR users. Get a good landing then come off the ground 1 meter, give the entire forest a couple blast and it will knock all the fruit from the trees..... VERY quickly land and hop in your SRV and run run run like crazy to scoop up all the goodies you just knocked out of the trees.... you will have about 3 minutes or something like that before they vanish. This works well for VR users because target selection is very fast with the head tracking and you need to be quick. A few items knocked lose will still be stuck in the trees so get those too before the times up.... (brain trees and Crystal forest will repopulate on a 'menu-log' so its easy to repeat practice the launcher shots... they also repopulate if you drive about 1-2k away, so you can deplete 1 forest, drive to the next one and by the time you come back the one by your ship should be full again.
Note - I always forget to bring my flechette launcher with me to the Crystals, so I'm guessing it should work there just as good as it does on brain trees and thargoid barnicles. Maybe someone can confirm or correct.
Ok the good stuff for explorers... Planet discoveries...
First - Travelers need high jump range... Explorers should use as short of range as possible that allows them to complete the journey.... Where you 'super-jumping' to my dude, you missing all the stuff right here in between!!
You will hear a lot of people tell you that you have to go 2,000 Ly's from the bubble to have tour own full solar system discoveries..... NOT TRUE!!!
In the bubble, hmm probably not but you can definitely find MANY solar systems 500LY from the bubble, Here's how... Create detours. Don't plot straight lines to any destination. If you are going to the Shards, pick an additional place you would like to visit (outside of the bubble) that takes you off the normal path that everybody and their grandpa has been on... trust me, I am 'great' grandpa age!
Here is an example from my last trip only a few days ago (with pics to prove this is still easily available NOW). I have 44 ships that I'm finishing G5 engineering on every part of the ships, So I run through mats very fast. So on this trip I took my detour North first to Visit The Bee Hive Star Cluster (location listed below) I have 8 Solar systems with about 100 planets within 500 LY of the bubble. Just have to know what you're looking for. The Main Stars will almost all be discovered already from CMDR's honking the system and moving on, and sometimes even the first planet or 2 may be discovered by proximity of the cmdr's jump... you have to keep an eye on that honk number and look at your sensor to see if things don't look right.... it says 23 bodies but you only see 1 star and 2 planets, you need to open that system map quick fast and take a count... stuff is missing, IT's Yours!... I'll post some pics of this..
CRYSTA SHARDS
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Locations (discovered by the great CMDR's who came before me) These are the popular locations everybody uses.
HIP 36601 (1,600 LY from the center of the bubble) Planets... (needs 45 LY jump range due to spread of stars to make this trip)
C1A - Polonium
C1D - Ruthenium - (forest in 3.8... Random rare scattered shards in 4.0)
C3B - Tellurium
C5A - Technetium - (also found in Brain tree forest)
...and about 600-700 LY away, might be 500, I forget.....
OUTOTZ LS-K D8-3 (1,725 LY from center of bubble)
B5C - Antimony
B5A - Yttrium
SELENIUM BRAIN TREES
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HR 3230 - Planet 3AA (399 Ly from center of bubble)
(G4's) Technetium & Selenium
(G3's) Tin & Niobium
(G2's Manganese & Zirconium (selenium appears as G2 Polyporous Growth)
by the way, there are lots of planets with crystal shard and brain tree forest... but these are popular cause they're grouped together and these brain trees have Selenium yay!
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Bee Hive Star Cluster - Praesepe (577 Ly from center of bubble) - Galileo discovery - group of young stars that look like a nebula from far because they are close to each other and very bright .
Eskimo Nebula - GCRV 4981 A (Amazing looking Nebula that surrounds just 1 star and Black Hole... no planets)
Like Loki, my brain is a bag full of cats... so I'm sure I forgot stuff that I'll add later.... Hmmm...
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OK, here's some pic of planetary discoveries not far as mentioned above from this weekend... After 8 systems within 100 LY apart, I stopped looking so I'm pretty sure there are hundreds more... These are about 100 LY north of the Bee Hive main star Praesepe, but still within the bee hive... (add some pics if you become my neighbor)...
Oh and my OCD raw mats list.... Yes I'm a little strange and divided all my mats by 3 so I could trade 'non-3' dividends to make sure the numbers would come out pretty in the end....
6 hours from mostly depleted....
use these 6 mats to top off the others so you don't have to go back to Crystals...
Plenty of undiscovered planets close by...
False Empty system, fills after scan....
Incomplete System, fills after scan...
Dated proof of many more systems available close by... I have the 'before -empty system pics' but I'm just trying to give some incentive for you to come get some of these and be my neighbor.
For those that don't have an Inara account... the first pic is showing how Inara tracks your mats... blue is what you have enough of to complete your engineering, red shows you don't have enough... you choose the blueprints you want on the site...
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