Got my OCULUS last week. Cant play because of MOTION SICKNESS :.(

[mrbigtime81]

Hello people,

Sadly i am having difficult times. when i try to both fly and track objectives like enemies or even space port, i feel like puking. is this what motion sickness anyway.

i used to play with TRACKER 4 yet experience with OCULUS is priceless.

And why resolution is so low? game isn't sharp at all with OCULUS. what say you?

 

[cmdr awesome]

1. Make sure you have a good frame rate. Turn off all the shiny options - use VR LOW. Poor frame rate contributes to sickness. You need 90fps.
2. What GPU do you have - anything less than a 970 and it's unlikely you'll get a smooth enough experience even on the basic settings
3. The headsets are all low res compared to a 4k monitor, but you may have a config issue. Text should be legible if you lean in a little.

 

[StiTch]

As above, keep it smooth. People react differently in any case, and many recommend less intense VR games to ease yourself into ED.

As for quality, I would add my little piece in that VR was definitely insta-gratification to me, but even within the space of a night I realised as a PC builder etc. how much I can tweak about the setup to improve quality.

If you look in the VR subforum, there's a whole thread dedicated to quality improvements. Debug tools, using DP adapters (believe it or not it actually makes a difference based on how your GPU handles the output ports), what settings you can put to 0 in ED because the Rift's 3D does it anyway, etc. etc.

Until VR is more established and the config gets a more uniform and effective platform, getting good quality out of VR isn't what I'd recommend to "casuals". You can get a nice image otherwise, but the level of config you need to meticulously test to get "optimal" results is very high and not uniform thanks to the differences in everyone's computers.

I advise you immediately go look at the VR subform and basically pick it to the bones for info

As an extra side note, spend some time getting the Rift comfy as possible. I had a nice image but the clarity improved once the straps etc. were all sitting correctly - which took me about half an hour to get to. Now I know how it's seconds, but it's worth initially working out how to make it sit.

 

[Sir.Tj]

Take your time to get used to it. it does get easier.

 

[robdood]

Not everyone *can* get used to it.. My girlfriend wants to vomit after a few seconds on anything with unnatural movement..

 

[sbdags]

I'm in a similar boat. But I disagree with the OP.

Text and image is sharp for me and I'm getting a consistent 90FPS which really does help but I can't stomach more than about 30 mins at a time in VR.

Flying through normal space is fine but docking in particular makes my stomach lurch.

I tried project cars and 3 laps made me sick for 2 days - really!

GTX 1070 on 4.5GHz I7.

 

[Beavis Tingleball]

the first time i tried VR with a DK2 I thought i was going to die.. I felt sick for 2 days! but I mustered the courage to keep at it and now I have the stomach of a fighter pilot. It does get better and soon you'll be able to barrel roll your way to Sag A also, try to keep as much of your cockpit in your view as you can while getting acclimated to VR. looking at something stationary really helps when the queezies start to come on.

 

[Cliché]

And why resolution is so low? game isn't sharp at all with OCULUS. what say you?

The resolution actually isn't that bad at 2160x1200 (or 1080x1200 per eye). The problem is that your field of view is so big. If you sit in front of a monitor, all those pixels are crammed into a relatively small area if front of you, and they are farther away so they look sharper. But with VR, the pixels are stretched out over your entire FOV and the screen is a lot closer. And then you have the lenses, which for now cause the edges to be blurry and for there to be a relatively small sweet spot. All in all though, sometimes it looks incredibly sharp - it really depends on the situations, and the brighter the better in most cases.

But I think the stretching out pixels is the main problem. It's like watching an old standard def TV show on a new 70" LCD TV - it's going to look like crap unless you take steps to improve it, but there is only so much you can do. Someday we may have curved screens that will stay in focus, with 10 times the resolution, and the hardware to run it at high FPS, but until then you need to sacrifice some image quality for the experience.


Anyway, sorry to hear you are feeling sick. I've only felt it in the debug camera myself. I think you just need to take it easy and build up a resistance to it. And I've heard that you should stop instantly whenever you start to feel sick.

 

[xondk]

Hello people,

Sadly i am having difficult times. when i try to both fly and track objectives like enemies or even space port, i feel like puking. is this what motion sickness anyway.

i used to play with TRACKER 4 yet experience with OCULUS is priceless.

And why resolution is so low? game isn't sharp at all with OCULUS. what say you?

Low resolution: screens aren't there yet, you can do things to improve it though with supersampling.
Motion sickness: Experience from a friend I know, do NOT jump directly into gaming what you want, say Elite, if you get easily motion sick. Instead play the demo's and whatnot, the cheap games with simple graphics, allow your brain to get used to that, and then step it up to more graphically complex games, helped him a ton getting over the motion sickness.

 

[CMDR MAIN SEQUENCE]

In addition to the good advice already given:

- persevere, but don't overdo it. I felt nauseous for the first week or so, but start with small play sessions (say just 10 mins) and gradually build up over time
- as soon as you start feeling sick, remove the headset
- when docking, tilt your head before you start to roll, I find this helps
- don't even think about the SRV until you are comfortable in the ship
- try the in-game settings that are designed to reduce nausea

 

[fitzsteve]

When I first got my DK2 I had some issues but I was also new to the game so the first time I tried to dock I thought I was going to be sick. I could only really play for short sessions but now I can play for hours, no issues, FA off, flying backwards into star ports, you name it and no issues. So do try again, short sessions and build yourself up. Make sure you have smooth frame rate (check with MSI afterburner or similar as you can graph your frames so see if it's dropping)

 

[Mr_sukebe]

I found the DK2 much worse than the CV1.
No issues in ED so for in the CV1. Don't whatever you do try Warthunder. I tried aerial combat in that I needed to sit next to our toilet for 15 mins thinking I was going to puke.

 

[BillD]

Hello people,

Sadly i am having difficult times. when i try to both fly and track objectives like enemies or even space port, i feel like puking. is this what motion sickness anyway.

i used to play with TRACKER 4 yet experience with OCULUS is priceless.

And why resolution is so low? game isn't sharp at all with OCULUS. what say you?

I used to have the same issue and now I am pretty much immune and can do almost anything. The trick is to stop as soon as you start to feel ill. This is really important. Don't try to be a hero and try to push through, for many that can make it a whole lot worse.

My Biggest issues for me was coming in through the slot to land and flying in asteroid fields. Which is kind of an issue as I am a Miner.
But I started doing some mission to avoid the asteroid fields and just played in short stints. I used to break out into a cold sweat as soon as I requested docking. It was terrible. But I would dock once and quit, then come back the next day. Sometimes I could not even complete the docking and would just have to quite the game instantly.

The worst was when I came through the slot and the pad was above me, so I would have to flip. I tried all sorts of things and for me turning or rolling really slow made it a lot WORSE. I ended banking in sharp sudden moves and that helped a lot as it is over before your brain gets too confused by the motion.

To help I also started doing stuff around outposts so I could avoid the slots and bounty hunting in signal sources or at nav beacons. After about 3 weeks I realised I was playing for hours again and now can pretty much do anything (except some stuff with the external camera... avoid that external camera)

I will stress again... as soon as you start to feel the hot flushes or dizzyness, just quit immediately. Fit an Auto Pilot to take over your landings if you feel ill and CLOSE YOUR EYES. Watching the Autopilot manouver can make things worse as you don't know what moves are coming up. But at least if you start to feel ill you can just close your eyes and let it land. Anywhere else simply quite immediately.

Also learn to focus on the Radar or your Feet during a tight turn this may help.

Do not use external camera at all.

Best of luck.

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Hello people,

And why resolution is so low? game isn't sharp at all with OCULUS. what say you?

After loading the oculus software are you using the debug tool to setup the super sampling? I have the Pixels per display setting in the debug tool set to 1.6 and the super sampling in game settings at 1.0 (Its not as good as doing it externally)

 

[JetsonRING]

Hello people,
Sadly i am having difficult times. when i try to both fly and track objectives like enemies or even space port, i feel like puking. is this what motion sickness anyway.
i used to play with TRACKER 4 yet experience with OCULUS is priceless.
And why resolution is so low? game isn't sharp at all with OCULUS. what say you?

The really sad part is, even sea-sick medicine will not help since it is "reverse" sea-sickness you are experiencing: Your eyes are telling you that you are moving and your ears say you are standing still. Actual sea-sickness is the reverse of that. Video games have been making me ill for years, ever since the first Battlefield 1942. I played as a sniper so I would not have to move around a lot.

 

[Aio]

I found the DK2 much worse than the CV1.
No issues in ED so for in the CV1. Don't whatever you do try Warthunder. I tried aerial combat in that I needed to sit next to our toilet for 15 mins thinking I was going to puke.

Warthunder is amazing on the VIVE. But you need to have constant 90 fps due to reprojection do not work as well as in elite. To make it run well I actually needs to turn off reprojection in steamvr which is opposite to Elite.

 

[cygnusa]

Make sure your IPD is perfectly correct and the hmd adjusted. That will improve clarity and may help with nausea.

The best advice of all that others have said is... take your time. It can take time to get VR legs. There is a lot of motion in Elite and it can be a bit of an overload if you haven't quite become accustomed. I wouldn't drive in an SRV until you feel ok in the ship. It can be quite a stomach churner on rough sufaced planets.. but once you get use to it is awesome.

About the res, that is VR. Once things get going the immersion kicks in and the resolution becomes an afterthought. Just look at the scale of things around you in the game. Its something you just can't get on a monitor.

Note: I own a Vive myself, but the principles are the same.. I'm living with some other challenges on that front with Elite.

 

[shadragon]

There are three anti-nausea setting in options you can turn on. Forgive me for not specifying which as I'm off site today with no access to my home or work PC. However, they are there. I think there are two under SRV drive settings.

 

[moonsword]

Lord Nelson got seasick everytime he went out...

but it will go away after some days.

 

[Raptoyd]

Try some Sea Bands and ginger gum

 

[[HJ]-RedRaven]

Do not use external camera at all.

This - the external camera (default F11 I think) will make you queasy. Especially if you have FA off and rotating, then go outside and watch the rolling stars.. youch.
No, don't go there!


Seriously, take frequent breaks, get used to it slowly - even if you're fine and don't get motion-sick in real life, it can be nasty in VR. Everyone is different, but you can train yourself to get over it.

Main thing is not to overdo it (and end up hating VR because your body freaks out every time you look at the VR headset.

And turn down detail settings so you get a fast frame rate with as little judder as possible.

What cpu, video card etc are you using?