Gpu forVR
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I have a i5 4690k and gtx 1060. The CPU is a serious bottleneck even overclocked. Hopefully your i7 does a better job. I'd go for above an r590 to give you some headroom. Pick whatever your happy to spend, there are some good deals on the 1080 etc while they clear stocks depending on where you live while stocks last
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Hi, other way round. The i5 4690k is the bottleneck, 1060 is fine at the settings I run.
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I swapped a 1060 for a 1080, and the difference is immense (on an overclocked i5). GFX card a key factor, provided your CPU isn't terrible!. The bigger the better. The difference in quality is very pronounced.
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Neither 4th gen Intel's keep up with VR demands.
And moving from an i7 4790k to an i7 8700k was as big a boost in performance as when I moved from a 980ti to a 1080ti.
In short.
My i5 4690k was bottlenecking my 980ti.
Got an i7 4790k, and that performed ok with 980ti just barely.
Got a 1080ti and I was limiting hard on CPU.
80-90% on CPU <30% GPU.
And it wouldn't even maintain the 45fps mark in combat.
<30fps in VR results in some very funky visuals.
The i7 8700k pretty much flips those numbers and if I don't go crazy on SS not really using asw.
In a nutshell.
If your on a ddr3 platform, regardless what you think it should be capable of.
You don't have a VR ready computer.
Period.
And moving from an i7 4790k to an i7 8700k was as big a boost in performance as when I moved from a 980ti to a 1080ti.
In short.
My i5 4690k was bottlenecking my 980ti.
Got an i7 4790k, and that performed ok with 980ti just barely.
Got a 1080ti and I was limiting hard on CPU.
80-90% on CPU <30% GPU.
And it wouldn't even maintain the 45fps mark in combat.
<30fps in VR results in some very funky visuals.
The i7 8700k pretty much flips those numbers and if I don't go crazy on SS not really using asw.
In a nutshell.
If your on a ddr3 platform, regardless what you think it should be capable of.
You don't have a VR ready computer.
Period.
Easy. Don't spend for the sake of it. Save up. Get the best you can afford. Once you have the gpu 2080
then yes the cpu will be the bottleneck. Mine was
I back up what TorTorden said. I switched to an i7 8700K from an i5 4670K and experienced a massive performance boost.
I updated and carefully paired the CPU, GPU and RAM (along with supporting MoBo of course) (entirely to play EDH at full monty settings)
From:
CPU i5 3570K, GPU GTX 970 4 GB GDDR4 mem, RAM 32 GB DDR3
To:
CPU i7 9700K, GPU RTX 2080 8 GB GDDR6 mem, RAM 32 GB DDR4
The change for the better has been night and day.... FPS was 30-40 fps. FPS now 100-105 fps (steady). Quality settings were Moderate to High. Quality setting ALL ultra now. Display was 760x1080, now 3440x1440.........NO going back!
Hope this helps, o7
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Does 32GB mem make a big difference?
Currently:
i5 8400
1060 6GB
16GB 3200 DDR4.
Z390 MoBo.
Basic build, built January, with a view to upgrading Dec this year (CPU + GPU).
Would going to 32GB be worthwhile? (going VR).
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I currently run two systems; one had* 4 GB RAM and obviously the other has 32 Gb RAM but the former was/is DDR3 and the latter is DDR4.
ED stuttered a fair bit with the former and I had put it down to the internet (when upgraded to 32 GB it reduced) .. but my latest main rig has the 32 GB (DDR4) and is smooth as silk 100% of the time (Apart from a little occasional internet lag on my 200Mb Superfast).
I was thinking about upgrading further to 64 GB but the salesman himself; advised the difference would NOT be worth the bang for buck. I have recently (2 builds) operated with 32 GB RAM and compared to most of my ED gaming friends SEEM to have no or only rare performance hits. So much so that a girlfriend upgraded JUST her RAM and now says that she would not go back (but can't put her finger exactly on the reason when I push her).
You upgrading from 16 GB to 32 GB will obviously see less improvement than I saw going from 4 GB to 32 GB, but I hear that with VR the more RAM the merrier! (I can't do VR.... it makes me chuck!)
The MOST important factor in successfully adding/upgrading RAM is to religiously ensure that each and every DIMM is the same type/manufacture/size/speed/same everything!!!!!!
Hope this ramble helps......
* Also upgraded to 32 GB (but DDR3 only)
o7
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Fairly certain the big jump in fps is due to the cpu jump from 3570k→9700k and gtx970 4gb→rtx2080 8gb and had not much to do with the ram.
If you want to splurge on ram get 16gb but faster rather than just getting 32. For ddr3 the sweet spot for ram was 1600mhz but for ddr4 I think the sweet spot is 3200mhz.
Think of it this way 8gb ram is strict minimum, 16gb is recommended and 32 is just plain overkill cause you have the cash to burn or you playing some odd outlier of a game. Certainly the 4gb of ddr3 was under the strict min and would have seen an improvement when hitting 8gb but anything over 16gb was a negligible improvement.
I think in terms of vram it more important than it used to be on the gpu and you want a min of 6gb so be wary of gpu's with only 2,3 or 4 gb of vram as they may or may not cut it in many situations and are certainly not future proof.
if you currently have:
i5 8400
1060 6GB
16GB 3200 DDR4.
Z390 MoBo.
and want to upgrade for VR then upgrade the cpu and the gpu, use the moeny you would have put on an extra 16gb of ram to put on a better gpu. Depending on budget you should look at 9700k and rtx2080ti.
You can always upgrade and add more ram later without having to change the ram you currently have if for some odd reason it is needed.
If you want to splurge on ram get 16gb but faster rather than just getting 32. For ddr3 the sweet spot for ram was 1600mhz but for ddr4 I think the sweet spot is 3200mhz.
Think of it this way 8gb ram is strict minimum, 16gb is recommended and 32 is just plain overkill cause you have the cash to burn or you playing some odd outlier of a game. Certainly the 4gb of ddr3 was under the strict min and would have seen an improvement when hitting 8gb but anything over 16gb was a negligible improvement.
I think in terms of vram it more important than it used to be on the gpu and you want a min of 6gb so be wary of gpu's with only 2,3 or 4 gb of vram as they may or may not cut it in many situations and are certainly not future proof.
if you currently have:
i5 8400
1060 6GB
16GB 3200 DDR4.
Z390 MoBo.
and want to upgrade for VR then upgrade the cpu and the gpu, use the moeny you would have put on an extra 16gb of ram to put on a better gpu. Depending on budget you should look at 9700k and rtx2080ti.
You can always upgrade and add more ram later without having to change the ram you currently have if for some odd reason it is needed.
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Absolutely not when it comes to capacity. 32GB is way more than you need for ED, 8 GB is plenty for ED unless you are doing loads of other things at the same time.
A long time ago I was advised to buy more RAM with 8GB and it was a complete waste of money. I don't think it ever even got used. 16GB max for Elite and every other game tbh.
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