Griefing?
- Thread starter Maviard
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well FIRST. Explain what YOU think griefing is.
I asked this question the first day of Public Beta and got the same answers, played the game and found out that everyone is right.
Yes there are people who enjoy being crappy, they are few but sometimes tend to clump together to appear threatening thankfully blocking them will result in no longer being placed in the same instance as them.
For the most part commanders are respectful and keep to themselves. In the rare occasion you will receive a friendly hello from a passing ship in supercruise, or someone willing to help take down a bounty at a nav beacon and not take the kill for themselves. It's safe to say that the greater percentage of players in this game are decent people.
Yes there are people who enjoy being crappy, they are few but sometimes tend to clump together to appear threatening thankfully blocking them will result in no longer being placed in the same instance as them.
For the most part commanders are respectful and keep to themselves. In the rare occasion you will receive a friendly hello from a passing ship in supercruise, or someone willing to help take down a bounty at a nav beacon and not take the kill for themselves. It's safe to say that the greater percentage of players in this game are decent people.
There will be griefing (however you choose to define it - it's way subjective, really) because in any bunch of gamers there always is. However, ED has a lot more ways to avoid it than most do. You can expect the usual forum rage from both sides, with the people having a hard time venting about their experiences and others frothing over that the means to avoid unwanted player interactions should be nerfed. Most of this will not be generated by true instances of griefing, just made to sound like it by the normal social friction within the highly opinionated gamer community.
The tiny minority of genuine griefers will be participating in this as well, but they will generally indulge in all sorts of forum metagaming too, hoping for future patches to the game tweaking it more to their liking. However, there's been plenty of that already and FD have generally seemed to be completely immune.
In short, don't worry. You'll find it refreshingly easy to avoid that kind of player, should you encounter them.
The tiny minority of genuine griefers will be participating in this as well, but they will generally indulge in all sorts of forum metagaming too, hoping for future patches to the game tweaking it more to their liking. However, there's been plenty of that already and FD have generally seemed to be completely immune.
In short, don't worry. You'll find it refreshingly easy to avoid that kind of player, should you encounter them.
so you consider anything then that behaviour griefing? wow...
Really. I've not even been pirated since the bubble was opened up. Only been interdicted once by a player, and he ran away before I could even shoot him
Its very rare imo. Also the games mechanics make the act of griefing/murder extremely unsustainable.
However, pvp piracy on the other hand, well thats quite rightly supported by the games mechanics, and jolly good fun!
As other have said, ED gives you the tools to avoid other players -solo mode- for those times you don't want the interruption/challenge/threat/fun!
However, pvp piracy on the other hand, well thats quite rightly supported by the games mechanics, and jolly good fun!
As other have said, ED gives you the tools to avoid other players -solo mode- for those times you don't want the interruption/challenge/threat/fun!
I am based near THIIN and I see the odd CMDR flying about, I often wish them a good trip, sometimes I get a reply!
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I've been mining and had others drop in to my instance and just get on with their own stuff, no problems there either.
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Only once has a CMDR come after me but I was better at the Interdiction mini-game and left them for dust.
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There's always going to be the odd at flying around looking to cause mayhem, but honestly I've been trolled by the NPCs more often. Launch day may be a different kettle of fish but even if the worst happens it will slowly die down and return to normal
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I've been mining and had others drop in to my instance and just get on with their own stuff, no problems there either.
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Only once has a CMDR come after me but I was better at the Interdiction mini-game and left them for dust.
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There's always going to be the odd at flying around looking to cause mayhem, but honestly I've been trolled by the NPCs more often. Launch day may be a different kettle of fish but even if the worst happens it will slowly die down and return to normal
Does annoying behaviour exist in this game? Yes.
Is it a problem? No.
I have experienced people trying to make my day worse by going outside what you might call normal parameters, but Elite is just a very hard game to grief in. I am sure there will be cheaters, exploiters and other losers when it's released. But if you want to avoid them, you can do so easily.
Is it a problem? No.
I have experienced people trying to make my day worse by going outside what you might call normal parameters, but Elite is just a very hard game to grief in. I am sure there will be cheaters, exploiters and other losers when it's released. But if you want to avoid them, you can do so easily.
Captain Reynolds would be disappointed in you, Brown Coats aren't bullies...
Here, here!
Did nothing of the sort. But if that's what you think you are entitled to it.
Mu77ley
Volunteer Moderator
I've experienced exactly one incident of griefing (in the name of testing), and that was back in about Alpha 4.
Since July I've experienced nothing that could in anyway be considered griefing.
Captain Reynolds would be disappointed in you, Brown Coats aren't bullies...
Do you know what the chain of command is? It's the gorram chain I hit you with until you do as you're told
No griefing in solo play. The only point of playing open is to attack other players or be at risk of it yourself at the moment. If you like the idea of people demanding goods from you or just killing you for a laugh (or for that matter, people smashing you to pieces because they have a bigger ship but are terrible at docking), then open will be fine.
If you see it as griefing, there is solo/private. All modes take place in the same universe and even two players in open in the same system may be in separate instances anyway. Solo just prevents any other player from joining your instance.
If you see it as griefing, there is solo/private. All modes take place in the same universe and even two players in open in the same system may be in separate instances anyway. Solo just prevents any other player from joining your instance.
There is a thing called Pirates. They will pull you out of Super Cruise and attack you until you drop their cargo, similar to how EVE Online works. There is however no (or very rare) KoS like in DayZ.
If open play bothers you, you can always play Solo.
I've been playing pretty much every day since beta 2 and in that time - outside of the betapocalypse - I've had only two instances of PvP. One when I was a noob noobing my way around an extraction site and some guy insta-killed me. F U that guy! And one who interdicted me this morning and attacked without a word, but I won that fight. Good try though silent (would be) assassin. It did leave me jumpy enough to attack the next guy who pulled me over even though he only wanted to talk.
Every other player I've seen has been perfectly fine. Most just mind their own business, some will say hello in passing and occasionally one will want to chat.
Things might change with all the new players but in my experience you've got nothing to worry about.
Good try though silent (would be) assassin. It did leave me jumpy enough to attack the next guy who pulled me over even though he only wanted to talk. Every other player I've seen has been perfectly fine. Most just mind their own business, some will say hello in passing and occasionally one will want to chat.
Things might change with all the new players but in my experience you've got nothing to worry about.
Protip on how not to get griefed: Know what your weakness is and outfit accordingly.
Example:
I have switched between the cobra and the type 6 a few times.
In the cobra i can always outrun an attacker and in combination with chaff/shield banks i can always survive long enough to get into SC. So those are the bare minimums for a non combat cobra.
In the type 6 i always add heat sink launchers. Since i can not outrun anyone i can at least deny him the ability to lock onto my ship, so i have 2 heat sink launchers on different fire groups. If i get interdicted i can keep my temperature all the way down while the frame-shift charges.
Example:
I have switched between the cobra and the type 6 a few times.
In the cobra i can always outrun an attacker and in combination with chaff/shield banks i can always survive long enough to get into SC. So those are the bare minimums for a non combat cobra.
In the type 6 i always add heat sink launchers. Since i can not outrun anyone i can at least deny him the ability to lock onto my ship, so i have 2 heat sink launchers on different fire groups. If i get interdicted i can keep my temperature all the way down while the frame-shift charges.
I never said all pvp players are griefers at all.
Stop twisting my words.
I said after the 16th release day there will be more griefers as the game is officially released.As you always get griefers in any online game.
and i was right as this thread proves it.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=78227
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