Must be something strange with my setup. Fallout 4 runs fine at 2560x1600, high on pretty much everything, yet Elite struggles near planets. I have a GTX690, so I'm guessing it is an issue with Elite needing more than 2GB Ram, and not having any good way of coping with less without stuttering.
GTX970 /960 or what GPU suggestions please
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Must be something strange with my setup. Fallout 4 runs fine at 2560x1600, high on pretty much everything, yet Elite struggles near planets. I have a GTX690, so I'm guessing it is an issue with Elite needing more than 2GB Ram, and not having any good way of coping with less without stuttering.
Hi
Iv been looking at GPUs and think (im not fully sure) that im sort of sort of looking at the GTX970 Well as with everything else there is a huge price difference. Iv seen this one for instance
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Palit-Nvidi...d=1458916762&ref_=sr_1_24&s=computers&sr=1-24
But it says there is a newer model for about £12 which is this one
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Palit-GeFor...=1458916762&ref_=sr_ob_24&s=computers&sr=1-24
But there are others going right up to £300+ And I was wondering other than the price what was the difference.
Also is the GTX970 a good GPU to go for seeing as im only building this PC to play Elite and the other thing it will do is do some downloads from the internet via my seedbox and thats all. Originally I had looked at the GTX960 4Gb so there was that one and I just wondered if anyone else could come up with any othersuggestions for a GPU other than the GTX970 or (^) and with what I have said I want to use the PC for I just wondered if the extra £80 on the 970 will make that much of a difference to if I just went with the 960 Or as I have asked can anyone give any other suggestions and price. Thank you
Regards Os
I've never heard of that make and they look like reference design cards. look on www.scan.co.uk for decent makes like MSI or EVGA. I've got https://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb...r5-gpu-1140mhz-boost-1279mhz-cores-1664-dp-hd and it's rather good. If you can put up with what you have a bit longer then now really isn't a good time to be buying a card though. If the rumours are true then anything you buy now will be almost obsolete in a few months.
Interesting, I have seen this criticism of the 970's many times but I read something that changed my mind about it being a mistake. It basically is this, If the 970 is pushing around 3.5gb's of vram data it is already at the very top end of what it can do and is starting to lose fps because of this so when you start to get in the plus 3.5gb of vram up till 4 it is pushing the picture around at a speed compatible with the slower ram anyway so the difference is not seen. I own a 970 with an I5 4590 cpu and I regularly go over 3.5gb of vram usage,, even in ED. As far as compared to the 960 in the 9 series of Nvidea cards I think most people agree the 970 is the sweetspot for value for money, they really are a monster of a card for the price...
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Horizons currently tops out at around 3GB vRAM usage for me. That would explain the performance hit on cards with less than that amount of vRAM - there's a lot of texture swapping going on.
With regard to the OP, I have a Palit Jetstream GTX970 (revision 2). It's a perfectly functional GTX970 that does everything any other GTX970 with the same clock speeds can do. I like Palit because they're cheap.
I also have a Zotac GTX970 (short version) in the Amplifier (an eGPU enclosure) for my Alienware 13. Both cards run the game at ultra at 1080p no problem. It should run Horizons fine on screens up to 1440p, but will choke at those settings at 2560p and 4K resolutions.
If you think you'll switch to resolutions higher than 1440p within the lifetime of the card, or suspect that Season 3 will introduce more demanding graphics (look at what Season 2 did to the graphical demands!), then I'd recommend getting a more capable card or waiting till Pascal drops. If you don't think you'll do those things, a GTX970 is perfectly capable.
I run a 960 2GB version, its the EVGA SSC 960.
CPU is an i5 4460 with 8gb of ram. Game installed on a SSD.
It runs ED Horizons on ultra 1080p just fine - no issues. I usually run v-synced (60) but if I switch if off it shows framrates of 150-180 in space and 120'ish on planets.
Actually when I think about I even run some DSR setting that I cant remember, so in reality its generating a higher res than 1080p and downscaling it.
If your monitor cant run at higher rates than 1080p at 60 hz anyway, then you are just fine with a 960.
If you buy a stronger card, consider upgrading your monitor as well or else you wont get to see the benefits.
CPU is an i5 4460 with 8gb of ram. Game installed on a SSD.
It runs ED Horizons on ultra 1080p just fine - no issues. I usually run v-synced (60) but if I switch if off it shows framrates of 150-180 in space and 120'ish on planets.
Actually when I think about I even run some DSR setting that I cant remember, so in reality its generating a higher res than 1080p and downscaling it.
If your monitor cant run at higher rates than 1080p at 60 hz anyway, then you are just fine with a 960.
If you buy a stronger card, consider upgrading your monitor as well or else you wont get to see the benefits.
Go the extra mile, future proof with a 980 / 980 Ti now.
Points to reference cards for not having those silly aftermarket coolers and coming with back plates.
Price difference from 970 to 980 is $100-$150 USD ($350 or $450-$500 depending on manufacturer/model).
980 Of any kind is not future proof for one simple reason. Non of the current Nvidia cards can handle asynchronous computes (Similar to multi-threading). As this is a big feature in DX12 they are a bad buy if you are looking for a long term card to own and you want to play the latest games on them. Already the old 290 can beat a 980Ti in benchmarks with DX12 software and the Fury X is making the Titan X look like a mad mans choice of gaming card.
I would recommend waiting until both Polaris and Pascal have been launched to see what is future proofed - if there can be such a thing. Personally I'm waiting for Polaris and the second generation of GCN parts.
120fps on planets.. My 970 with everything maxed and 1.5ss doesn't get half those fps on the planet surface... We must be doing something very different !
Not sure if it's mentioned on here, turn off ambient occlusion, it kills FPS
Currently running and MSI GTX 970, can very much recommend, Amazing performance for a great price. Also MSI 970 seems to pack more punch than my mates Stryx one and consumes less power 
Ok ,,, I been having a bit of a break from ED and not seen that one but will give it a go. I think on some planets my fps goes sub 40 which tbh with 1.5ss seems pretty acceptable although it is amazing once you get used to a solid 60fps everywhere how much you actually do notice it controlwise
I bought this one late last year, and have not regretted it since. It does everything in standard* Ultra settings (CPU: AMD Phenom II 4x CPU, 8Gbs RAM @ 1,333MHZ, Western Digital 7,200RPM HD) - and, best of all, the GTX 970 is one of THE best cards designed for the new load of VR hardware coming out.
*When I say standard Ultra, I mean without massive tweaks to the GraphicsConfiguration file, whereby you can ramp up texture files to whatever you like - like 4k or 8k resolutions - even then, this card doesn't take much of a hit if you have it set up correctly in the drivers.
You can take other people's advice and wait for price drops - but if you have a CPU better than mine (my machine is rated to do the High-end of VR graphics - I ran Steam's VR testing software, and it gave me a Green+ thumbs up), especially if you have an Intel CPU that is much better than my old AMD Phenom, then you will be able to play this game in Oculus or HTC Vive in ultra for sure.
Hope this helps!
http://www.ebuyer.com/663848-msi-gt...r-v-4gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-hdmi-gtx-970-gaming-4g
[h=3]Product Specifications[/h]
*When I say standard Ultra, I mean without massive tweaks to the GraphicsConfiguration file, whereby you can ramp up texture files to whatever you like - like 4k or 8k resolutions - even then, this card doesn't take much of a hit if you have it set up correctly in the drivers.
You can take other people's advice and wait for price drops - but if you have a CPU better than mine (my machine is rated to do the High-end of VR graphics - I ran Steam's VR testing software, and it gave me a Green+ thumbs up), especially if you have an Intel CPU that is much better than my old AMD Phenom, then you will be able to play this game in Oculus or HTC Vive in ultra for sure.
Hope this helps!
http://www.ebuyer.com/663848-msi-gt...r-v-4gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-hdmi-gtx-970-gaming-4g
[h=3]Product Specifications[/h]
- Model Name - GTX 970 GAMING 4G
- Model - V316
- GPU - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
- Codename - GM 204-200
- CUDA Core - 1664 Units
- Core Base Clock (OC) - 1140MHz
- Core Boost Clock (OC) - 1279MHz
- Memory Clock - 7000 MHz
- Memory Size - 4GB GDDR5
- Memory Bus - 256 bits
- Output - DL-DVI-I/DL-DVI-D, DisplayPort, HDMI
- Power Consumption - 148W
- Card Dimension - 269x141x35 mm
- Form Factor - ATX
- Afterburner OC GPU
- DirectX - 12
- OpenGL - 4.4
- Multi-GPU - SLI, 3-way
- Multi-Display - NVIDIA Surround
- 3D Technolog - 3DVision
- Power Saving - GPU Boost 2.0
- HDCP Capable - Y
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They most certainly do not.
The MSI cards I have run (970 Gaming / 980Ti Gaming 6G) are not audible over my case fans under heavy load with the Twin Frozr cooling fans. I run E: D on Ultra settings @175+ FPS.
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/GTX-980Ti-GAMING-6G.html#hero-overview
As others have said, I'd advise waiting a little bit if possible due to the likelihood of prices dropping pretty quickly. While there is, of course, always something else on the horizon, this is a pretty imminent thing. That said, I'm running a 2GB GTX 960 at the moment and it's able to run Elite at 1920x1200 with all the settings as high as they'll go (except supersampling) with framerates solidly above 60FPS. I've only ever seen one stutter below that and it was when I had something else going on in the background. So, if you can't wait and your budget is tight, a 960 will probably serve well enough. If you can wait a bit, though, you can probably end up at least one or two notches up in terms of card within a couple of months. That's worth waiting for in my opinion, so long as you're not completely out of the game, so to speak, at the moment.
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Go the extra mile, future proof with a 980 / 980 Ti now.
Points to reference cards for not having those silly aftermarket coolers and coming with back plates.
Price difference from 970 to 980 is $100-$150 USD ($350 or $450-$500 depending on manufacturer/model).
Came here to find this, someone suggesting a bleeding edge card. Well done sir.
fyi 970 with an option to sli a 970 later on is much better bang for your buck.
If you've got them turned on, try turning off V-Sync or Frame Rate Limiter.System map still takes an age to load tho
This is from general gamer point of view and not specifically for E: D, which actually runs pretty well on most cards for most part.
From Nvidia: 980 TI or bust for most part. Titans are only for running in SLI at 4k and otherwise are kind of a waste.
From AMD: R9 Nano (with current reduced price a very good deal) or R9 390. 390X or 380X/380 with 4gb is also ok, IF you find a really good deal on one. These cards will also mature nicely, with architectures that are geared towards the types of rendering solutions that are coming with the new APIs.
Anything else... Is either too expensive at the moment when compared to rest of the market (980, Fury), requires special setup (Fury X with its watercooler) or have some handicaps that raise question marks in regards of current or future performance in certain situations (960/970). There are rumors about regular Fury getting a price cut at some point during the spring, but we shall see.
From Nvidia: 980 TI or bust for most part. Titans are only for running in SLI at 4k and otherwise are kind of a waste.
From AMD: R9 Nano (with current reduced price a very good deal) or R9 390. 390X or 380X/380 with 4gb is also ok, IF you find a really good deal on one. These cards will also mature nicely, with architectures that are geared towards the types of rendering solutions that are coming with the new APIs.
Anything else... Is either too expensive at the moment when compared to rest of the market (980, Fury), requires special setup (Fury X with its watercooler) or have some handicaps that raise question marks in regards of current or future performance in certain situations (960/970). There are rumors about regular Fury getting a price cut at some point during the spring, but we shall see.
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The 390 is a much faster card than the 970 for the money. Especially at >1080p.
Also, there is no such thing as future proofing. Something better is always around the corner. Buy the best you can for what you can afford. If you're always waiting for the next step up, you'll never buy anything.
Also, there is no such thing as future proofing. Something better is always around the corner. Buy the best you can for what you can afford. If you're always waiting for the next step up, you'll never buy anything.
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I recently upgraded my pc after 4 years. Two years ago I put in a GTX 680 which was fine until Horizons came along. I could not land due to the lag. I persisted for a while but then upgraded most of the box. It now sports a GTX 970 and it laughs at any scenario. True, its at the upper mid range as far as gpu's go however with playing ED having less makes it not only hard to play but the lack of detail also makes it less enjoyable. As to the 970 I cannot recommend this card enough.
This is what I was wanting to hear. Like Ioriginally said Iwanted a M/c to basicly run Elite And as my monitor/50" Tv is not super high in quality It sounds like this setup will do me sort of fine. As for the anouncment that coming in June/July I think I will try and buy a second hand 960 or a PC ready bui;t with a I5 that has a benchmark over 6000 and a GTX960 fitted and go from there I think that way it gets me what I want and will not have cost me tomuchthat I might regreat after the anouncments that are on the way. and leaves me being able to play what I want. Does that sound like a plan. Im open if anyone has anything or any CPU, GPU or PC bits up for sale?
Regs Os