First a side note: you have 1333 memory, I just had a look at my son's PC & it actually has 1600Mhz memory - we were both wrong.
Well that's irritating, given that I have DDR3 2400 MHz RAM installed
What a waste.
Hardware & Technical GTX970 to 1080ti comparison
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Well that's irritating, given that I have DDR3 2400 MHz RAM installed
What a waste.
Well that's irritating, given that I have DDR3 2400 MHz RAM installed
Have a look to see if you can set the ram bus speed separately, it will be in a section just below the CPU setting you found. Probably can't, but no harm in looking
Have a look to see if you can set the ram bus speed separately, it will be in a section just below the CPU setting you found. Probably can't, but no harm in looking
Yeah, can't seem to find anything in that regard.
I built my son's PC from a combination of leftover parts & secondhand stuff off gumtree & ebay, it can be done but you need to know what works with what. You could start by finding another case that's capable of fitting a full ATX board (7/8 expansion slots on the back) & re-familiarise yourself with modern components by transplanting your current PC into it.
There is one more step you can do to your current PC (stick an i7 3770 in it) that requires only slightly more work than removing & replacing the heatsink as you've recently done, just remember to clean the old thermal gunk off & reapply new stuff (you should still have some left from your coolermaster accessory pack).
16Gb ram is still plenty for most tasks (and ED), and if you get a new system it's likely to require DDR4 (you have DDR3) so you'd be spending money to get something only slightly faster than what you have now.
Consider an SSD if you don't already have one, most come with drive imaging software so you don't need to re-install windows, but if you wanted to it would be a good opportunity to get a fresh start.
Final nail in your coffin is that Windows registration is tied to the motherboard - you can get it transferred but it's not a trivial process.
If you were to go with a solution that involved replacing the motherboard it might give you more upgrade options but what you have is probably still fine for another couple of years (as with my son's PC).
YMMV of course
ETA if you transfer your current PC into a bigger box and feel a 3770 wouldn't be enough of an upgrade you could look for a secondhand bundle of mobo & CPU that still accepts DDR3 RAM to make better use of the fast RAM you have. You should be able to transfer your heatsink, drives, GPU & power supply into pretty well anything (intel or AMD) that also takes DDR3, just make sure it is actually an upgrade on your current PC (with an i7 in it).
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Would it be foolish to go for something like this? I should be able to transfer everything I have to this, get the most out of the Ram, even room for more later...
https://www.amazon.ca/Socket-Athlon-A88x-Bolton-D4-4xddr3/dp/B00MSOP7O0
https://www.amazon.ca/Socket-Athlon-A88x-Bolton-D4-4xddr3/dp/B00MSOP7O0
That may even be a downgrade.
I guess you only want to buy new components?
I know very little about AMD stuff prior to Ryzen but I've just done a little bit of googling & it seems the fastest CPU that would go in that socket is a little under half as productive as a 3770K, the fastest CPU that would fit in a socket 1155 mobo (including your own). I think it would be poor value for money & you would be disappointed with the resulting computer from what I can see.
Here's a comparison that includes some intel CPUs contemporary with your current PC and ones that would fit in that new motherboard:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/7677/amd-kaveri-review-a8-7600-a10-7850k/10
Essentially the onboard graphics of the AMD chips are much better than the ones in the intel chips, but the main CPU scores for intel are way, way better. You wouldn't be using the onboard graphics so there is no benefit to you.
I think you face a hard decision:
Leave your PC alone until you can afford a complete new one (easy, expensive), or
Buy a used i7 3770 to put into your existing PC (bit of a gamble (not much), cheap).
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As part of the diagnostic elimination process for my buffer locking problem, I put my 1080ti into my son's PC.
Firstly, ED didn't crash. This isn't conclusive because sometimes ED doesn't crash for hours on my own PC - but usually that's after it's crashed once & I then go back in so I'm satisfied it's not the new card. I didn't try putting the 970 back in my PC (I played for years without this problem on that card) but if I get desperate I'll try that another time.
More interestingly to mossfoot's dilemma, I ran a few benchmarks and my son's PC is (in terms of supporting a really fast GPU in games) every bit as good as my own PC with a much newer, higher spec motherboard, DDR4 RAM and a faster processor (7700@3.6GHz base vs 3770@3.4).
In superposition my son's PC actually scored very slightly faster (~5800 vs ~5700), probably the overhead from my two extra monitors.
So socket 1155 is still very much a contemporary and capable platform, even with an H61 chipset
Firstly, ED didn't crash. This isn't conclusive because sometimes ED doesn't crash for hours on my own PC - but usually that's after it's crashed once & I then go back in so I'm satisfied it's not the new card. I didn't try putting the 970 back in my PC (I played for years without this problem on that card) but if I get desperate I'll try that another time.
More interestingly to mossfoot's dilemma, I ran a few benchmarks and my son's PC is (in terms of supporting a really fast GPU in games) every bit as good as my own PC with a much newer, higher spec motherboard, DDR4 RAM and a faster processor (7700@3.6GHz base vs 3770@3.4).
In superposition my son's PC actually scored very slightly faster (~5800 vs ~5700), probably the overhead from my two extra monitors.
So socket 1155 is still very much a contemporary and capable platform, even with an H61 chipset
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Just so you know I'm not against a used motherboard, I just worry about trustworthy sources and live in Canada
i mean there are sites like this
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/?compatible_with=Vjzv6h
and eBay had this one... https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-B75M-PLUS-Motherboard-Intel-B75-LGA-1155-DDR3-/272401698064
i mean there are sites like this
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/?compatible_with=Vjzv6h
and eBay had this one... https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-B75M-PLUS-Motherboard-Intel-B75-LGA-1155-DDR3-/272401698064
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Just so you know I'm not against a used motherboard, I just worry about trustworthy sources and live in Canada
i mean there are sites like this
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/?compatible_with=Vjzv6h
and eBay had this one... https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-B75M-PLUS-Motherboard-Intel-B75-LGA-1155-DDR3-/272401698064
Your wariness of used gear is understandable & justified, there is always some risk, but it can get you good stuff cheap if you know what you are doing.
That B75 chipset board looks pretty good, should support up to 32Gb RAM I think. Bear in mind you need to weigh up the need to re-register (or buy a new license for) windows if you change your motherboard.
I paid £20 for my son's P8H61 mobo (with the G2020 & massive V8 heatsink I mentioned earlier) from a local guy who advertised it on gumtree, I was only interested in the mobo.
However while upgrading the mobo will allow you to make full use of your memory's extra speed, the actual difference this will make to your user experience will be fairly small. It will open up a future upgrade path to even faster RAM (and more of it) though.
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Yeah, it's set on Auto, but I tried changing the value. 31 is the highest I could put it to
Probably doesn't make a difference, but you could try 31 to see if it will hold a turbo past that better. I wouldn't count on it with your board and the limited options it provides for this though.
Well that's irritating, given that I have DDR3 2400 MHz RAM installed
Anything over relatively low memory clocks is usually not supported by the processor's IMC and is technically overclocking. Even if the CPU can handle it, many cheaper platforms won't allow much adjustment.
DDR3-2400 is very fast for DDR3 and not many platforms will support it. Even for those that regularly do, a fair degree of manual tuning may be needed as almost no DDR3 IMC was actually intended to be used with memory faster than DDR3-1600.
XMP (extreme memory profiles) which are supposed to allow high clocked memory like this to be plug and play are often very hit or miss without a very good board backing them up, and sometimes the CPU just can't handle the clocks.
I'm not sure you should bother, unless you are going for a very significant upgrade.
I would thoroughly stress test your system and if it passes everything, try the 1080 Ti back in it with only a single display attached.
If it's not CPU limited, it's likely not going to reveal much of a difference between platforms. Superposition is extremely GPU limited, and CPU/memory performance are of trivial importance.
Intel and their board partners often limit more advanced tuning options and support for faster memory to their Z series chipsets.
I don't think this would be a major improvement.
You could probably clock the memory higher, but without a dramatically faster CPU it wouldn't amount to much. The fastest part you can put in an LGA-1155 board without any overclocking isn't going to be dramatically faster, in most cases, and this board doesn't have a VRM robust enough to OC significantly without risking damaging something.
At this point, I would either see if there is a way to squeeze more out of the board you have (the exact model number, as printed on the board might help with this), or sell off the guts of your system and replace it with a modern platform.
I don't think there is anything more to get out of this board
I guess the question now would be, would 32 gigs of 2400 Ram and a i7 3770 chip (as suggested earlier) have a significant performance improvement over what I currently have (forget overclocking for now). The board is cheap, the ram isn't too bad cost wise, and it seem s like I can get the chip reasonably...
i mean, I probably would be better off building a whole new machine, but it's good to explore options
I guess the question now would be, would 32 gigs of 2400 Ram and a i7 3770 chip (as suggested earlier) have a significant performance improvement over what I currently have (forget overclocking for now). The board is cheap, the ram isn't too bad cost wise, and it seem s like I can get the chip reasonably...
i mean, I probably would be better off building a whole new machine, but it's good to explore options
I don't think there is anything more to get out of this board
I guess the question now would be, would 32 gigs of 2400 Ram and a i7 3770 chip (as suggested earlier) have a significant performance improvement over what I currently have (forget overclocking for now). The board is cheap, the ram isn't too bad cost wise, and it seem s like I can get the chip reasonably...
i mean, I probably would be better off building a whole new machine, but it's good to explore options
No point in adding more memory (unless you have a very specific use case for it...ED won't use it, even in the most extreme of scenarios), but the 3770 would be an improvement, and about the only worthwhile change I can think of that involves keeping your current board and memory.
I don't think there is anything more to get out of this board
I guess the question now would be, would 32 gigs of 2400 Ram and a i7 3770 chip (as suggested earlier) have a significant performance improvement over what I currently have (forget overclocking for now). The board is cheap, the ram isn't too bad cost wise, and it seem s like I can get the chip reasonably...
i mean, I probably would be better off building a whole new machine, but it's good to explore options
What else do you do with it besides play ED?
IMHO it doesn't make sense to invest in obsoleted tech, and instead cough up on a new rig altogether and sell this one maybe.
Gaming in general. I play other VR stuff on it.
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/nvid...-tomb-raider-with-60fps-at-1080p-with-rtx-on/
before someone considers splurging the absolutely outrageous price on the new RTX hardware ;-)
before someone considers splurging the absolutely outrageous price on the new RTX hardware ;-)
There will be patches to optimise stuff soon enough I guess.
I bought my 1080ti partly because I didn't want to be an early adopter. Mostly because I didn't want to wait any longer though