Guardian Lore

SheildStryke

SheildStryke
It has been coming to mind that the lore of the Guardians will become more and more mysterious as the ages come and go if only because of the entropy of the universe.

Consider the several million years old star you are scooping today and the Taurus star from which you cannot get any hydrogen at all.
This was particularly on my mind I was travelling to pick up Soontil relics to turn them in at an engineer to unlock some upgrades.

There's a series of T-class stars which caused me to have to turn aside a couple times to scoop at a younger star so as to keep on my way without running up a beacon for the fuel rats, but what if this "useless" path was once the Guardian super highway?

What if you went back in time to the Guardian's expansion, when the Taurus stars were much younger? The preferred scoopable star pathways (assuming they used hydrogen) might have looked completely different.

The Anaconda graveyard may have once been a vacation spot for Guardians who liked the old and rustic with only a few Taurus stars blemishing the easy pathways of fuel bountiful stars in some ages old path...

So what do you think? Are the Guardians from sufficiently long-ago ages so that the makeup of the galaxy would be significantly changed? Would our favorite systems of today once have been dusty swirls in the black, pre-ignition?

Has the Lore ever referenced this? Did someone come before the Guardians? Has anyone seen any guideposts or direction signs?
 

Koulema

K
The T-Tauri stars are the youngest stars in Elite: Dangerous. They are proto-stars and they will become "scoopable" Main-sequence stars in the next few million years. A star spends billions of years in the main sequence (if its mass low enough). The guardians died out only a few million years ago, so the main-sequence star density is more-or-less the same as in the age of the guardians.
 

Einar Donarsson

Einar Donarsson
I fear we wont get any more Storyrelated things regarding Guardians. It appears they were only a sidestory to justify human-alien modules to use against Thargoids and providing more gamepl.... grind so people have something to do. Id be the first to rejoice if they go deeper into the Guardian lore or even let us find some surviving remnants of guardian society, but knowing FDEV its highly unlikely.
 

CMDR Harada

CMDR Harada
Millions of years on a galactic scale is an eye-blink.

But there might be something here.. what about star movements ? Supernova ? There might be things that have significantly altered parts of the galaxy in that time frame.
 

Vedmo

Vedmo
The only thing we know for sure is that they eventually made it to Sol, did some bioengineering with its native primate species so their future chimera generations could live more easily in the environment, but in that multigenerational process also wiped out their intelligence, technology, and remembered history.
 

Chorda

Chorda
I don't mind the Guardians remaining in the past and effectively being Elite's version of 1920s 'Tut-mania', but hopefully Fdev will take the opportunity to introduce ground-based missions in Odyssey focusing on the Guardian sites. Surveying, excavation, tomb raiding and artefact hunting, etc. etc. in fact, given there's likely going to be Thargoid PvE stuff, there will almost certainly be a Guardian rifle to unlock.
 

Sapyx

Sapyx
CMDR Harada said:
Millions of years on a galactic scale is an eye-blink.

But there might be something here.. what about star movements ? Supernova ? There might be things that have significantly altered parts of the galaxy in that time frame.
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"Star movements" is tricky to answer. Logically, yes, stars move. The region of our galaxy orbits the core once every 230 million years, so the Guardian empire existed about 1/200th of an orbit ago. Stars generally orbit in clumps or clusters and most tend to follow very similar orbits, so 1 million years isn't really long enough to smear out the bulk of the empire, though any fast-moving stars they colonized could have moved quite a long way away from the rest of guardian space in that time period, or even exited the galactic disc entirely. I say "it's tricky" because, of course, stars in the ED universe don't actually move, or orbit anything.

"Supernova": a star explodes in the galaxy roughly once every 400 years. 1 million years is 2500 supernovae ago. 2500 / 400000000000 is a pretty small probability, so it's highly unlikely that a supernova would just happen to have taken out somewhere important to the Guardians, unless they deliberately built that important place around a star that they should have known was about to go nova in the next million years.

Of course, stars change without the extreme of going nova. Colonies they built around red giant stars would probably be orbiting white dwarfs by now, for example. And colonies in T Tauris or other young stars would probably have been changed by stellar ignition, when the star's fusion core ignites for the first time. There are plenty of human colonies around red giants and other unstable stars.
 
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