Sorry mate but you know the punishment, you just paid it. It may be a bitter pill to swallow but it could have been much worse. Small comfort I know but there you have it.
Guilty - lock me up and throw away the key?!?
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Sorry mate but you know the punishment, you just paid it. It may be a bitter pill to swallow but it could have been much worse. Small comfort I know but there you have it.
I disagree, in real life the same crime can and usually has different punishments according to the purpose and background of the crime, for example, if you kill somebody on your own defence in the US you can go free, if you kill somebody just because then you go to jail for sure and might even get a life sentence.
You said it pal, "there WAS".
Did you just call self defence and murder the same crime?
OP, tough luck, don't use exploits in games that specifically have rules against it, you'll end up penalised, lucky you weren't banned outright as a fair few games would have done.
Just the way I'm feeling. May he who is without sin throw the first bag of salt
Welcome to the club, OP. I'm in the same boat as you. (but only thrusters across the board, for one stupid try). You will be punched now by several guys who don't understand that by throwing rocks at us they actually help serial gankers who are dead quiet now - and all the trouble I had for my 15 minutes of stupidity is well worth it, I would go through all this again and again only if it results in this blissed silence.
Well done FD!
Well you would be breaking the terms of the Consumer Credit Act by an account ban, so it's a good job you're not in charge! Your point about a multiplayer game is null and void as I do not play ED on a PC in multiplayer and like many I did not buy it for multiplayer.
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Raise your hand if you feel any sympathy for players who cheat and get punished for cheating?
As you said yourself, this is just a game - that you cheated in... and this is just a punishment in the game for your cheating.
If you cheated to get ahead in life, then I might be inclined to consider shades of grey worth discussing.
The only question I have for you is - where was your honesty prior to you being punished?
No you wouldn't.
As you said yourself, this is just a game - that you cheated in... and this is just a punishment in the game for your cheating.
If you cheated to get ahead in life, then I might be inclined to consider shades of grey worth discussing.
The only question I have for you is - where was your honesty prior to you being punished?
No you wouldn't.
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Thats why they still have their product-key active...
In Mexico (my native country) they are the same. In the US they are not.
Of course you would. You're being denied a product that you paid for. This trumps the EULA. A full refund would be in order. Shadow ban is probably a different story.
As to your question - well it's rather ridiculous isn't it! I don't mind if you say nicely I should be cast into a fiery pit, but your logic behind your post is rather twisted.
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If it had been an actual script cheat or hack, then that is straight out cheating. Certain actions to disrupt or confuse the bgs into making things cheaper than they should be is certainlu an exploit, but its not a cheat. Its the commonly held perception that they are one and the same, but technically they are two different concepts.
Actual scripts that hack the code itself to give certain abilities and advantages is akin to a murder in real life...worst of the worst immediately ban fer life. But this exploit is more akin to pushing the speed limit when yer late fer work sorta stuff. Still against the rules but hardly so severe as to warrant the harshest of penalties.
Yes, the punishment was somewhat lenient...maybe lose all engineering progress, even the legit stuff but thats as harsh as it would be. Actual cheats who use different methods to achieve different results...those the real enemy not those just wanting to take a few shortcuts.
By all means, being salty about this whole affair might be amusing as hell...but stop and think it through before acting on impulse. The torches and pitchforks scenario...just no. Thats really not what we need right now...its simply not justifiable if nothing else ^
Actual scripts that hack the code itself to give certain abilities and advantages is akin to a murder in real life...worst of the worst immediately ban fer life. But this exploit is more akin to pushing the speed limit when yer late fer work sorta stuff. Still against the rules but hardly so severe as to warrant the harshest of penalties.
Yes, the punishment was somewhat lenient...maybe lose all engineering progress, even the legit stuff but thats as harsh as it would be. Actual cheats who use different methods to achieve different results...those the real enemy not those just wanting to take a few shortcuts.
By all means, being salty about this whole affair might be amusing as hell...but stop and think it through before acting on impulse. The torches and pitchforks scenario...just no. Thats really not what we need right now...its simply not justifiable if nothing else ^
Account bans are common in multi-player games so you are wrong. Diablo 2, Diablo 3, Wow, DOTA, and many others are liberal with the bans so try again. You violated the terms of service which you agree too before starting the game for the first time and no consumer credit protection will stop anything that you freely agree to. You violated those terms, I have no sympathy for you. Yes it is a multi-player game. all three modes share a consistant universe. Open, Private, and Solo, they all have the same universe. What you do in one has an effect in all other modes so it is indeed a multi-player game, so once again... wrong. Try again. However all of that is beside the point and I am not going to argue anything with you after this. You admited to cheating. You admited to using said cheat on multiple modules. You are guilty in your own words. That is called a confession. No sympathy here.
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Let me speak from a gamer's perspective, seen quite few games through the years. And I hope FD reads those for I think this goes into a dangerous direction for all.
"Exploit" in MMOs...this is like chicken or egg question. If it's a bug it should be fixed and damage reverted, no question in that. But big words like cheating, punishment, ban, guilt... Those words and statements have no place in a topic for a computer game, which falls into entertainment category. Full Stop. Especially a game, that by desing has no ballance in mind.
That situation is a Pandora's box - once opened, it brings negativism only - long threads, bad taste and decreasing player base. Exactly what happens to all MMOs. Even Blizard and Wargaming can't manage it , although in my opinion they must be the ones to know best how to handle such cases..If anyone knows at all... At the end all ends up as free2play with microtransactions...definitely not good for anyone! So I hope FD reads all these threats, for the path chosen (big brother with the big fat hammer) is very, very counterproductive and this is proven already by others.
Please do not consider the above as a suggestion to "ok, do you actually suggest to pretend we don't see anything?". Bugs should be fixed, damage reverted, players warned - no doubt or question. But doing public trials, executions , waiving a hammer....well, let's just say it works as desired for max of 10% of player's base. Since noone makes a good game for such sales, I think all of us should look a bit more positive on the story and don't forget where the problem is and who should fix it.
"Exploit" in MMOs...this is like chicken or egg question. If it's a bug it should be fixed and damage reverted, no question in that. But big words like cheating, punishment, ban, guilt... Those words and statements have no place in a topic for a computer game, which falls into entertainment category. Full Stop. Especially a game, that by desing has no ballance in mind.
That situation is a Pandora's box - once opened, it brings negativism only - long threads, bad taste and decreasing player base. Exactly what happens to all MMOs. Even Blizard and Wargaming can't manage it , although in my opinion they must be the ones to know best how to handle such cases..If anyone knows at all... At the end all ends up as free2play with microtransactions...definitely not good for anyone! So I hope FD reads all these threats, for the path chosen (big brother with the big fat hammer) is very, very counterproductive and this is proven already by others.
Please do not consider the above as a suggestion to "ok, do you actually suggest to pretend we don't see anything?". Bugs should be fixed, damage reverted, players warned - no doubt or question. But doing public trials, executions , waiving a hammer....well, let's just say it works as desired for max of 10% of player's base. Since noone makes a good game for such sales, I think all of us should look a bit more positive on the story and don't forget where the problem is and who should fix it.
Are these British companies? British company here British account - British law takes priority. Of course, this actually coming to fruition in a court of law is another story.
You are aware of the history of those being banned from this game? No? Ask yourself why.
And don't give me the BGS rubbish - that's akin to saying that you are stealing oxygen with me. ED is a game with multi-player tacked on. That's why it often doesn't work well as a multi.
Quite frankly, you don't wish to argue because you don't have a leg to stand on. Now I might not like your simplistic logic of my fate but that's your lookout, but the 'you are wrong' argument is just childish. I don't think your sympathy is worth 5p to be honest and it wasn't asked for!
You are aware of the history of those being banned from this game? No? Ask yourself why.
And don't give me the BGS rubbish - that's akin to saying that you are stealing oxygen with me. ED is a game with multi-player tacked on. That's why it often doesn't work well as a multi.
Quite frankly, you don't wish to argue because you don't have a leg to stand on. Now I might not like your simplistic logic of my fate but that's your lookout, but the 'you are wrong' argument is just childish. I don't think your sympathy is worth 5p to be honest and it wasn't asked for!
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lol your response tells me everything I need to know. thank you. Look man you are the OP and you admitted to something that has more than a few players riled up. maybe if you could not handle people being non-sympathetic you should have thought twice before posting.
thank you. Look man you are the OP and you admitted to something that has more than a few players riled up. maybe if you could not handle people being non-sympathetic you should have thought twice before posting.lol your response tells me everything I need to know.
It doesnt mean he has to agree with any criticism by default. IMHO cheaters should be punished beyond just removing the exploited stuff, otherwise there is zero reason not to do it again next time. In that sense the punishment serves a purpose. But some people seem to enjoy the unhappiness of others. Its not my preferred perspective on justice, and its one I prefer we keep in the dark ages. Spite is not a great quality.
lol your response tells me everything I need to know.
You said you weren't going to reply. That means you are a liar. That means you can't be trusted with anything...ever. can you see the overreaction?
I can handle it. Lets face it, such an op ia going to get plenty of projection. I just don't need your sympathy, as clearly it's worthless
seriously, some peeps will of course think I should be banned but to be rude about it? And you're dodging the subject - the Consumer Credit Act. At least eat humble pie and admit you don't know what you're talking about, not so hard is it? Have you actually researched anything?Please take the Einstein picture off and put on something more suitable. Like a brick?
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It doesnt mean he has to agree with any criticism by default. IMHO cheaters should be punished beyond just removing the exploited stuff, otherwise there is zero reason not to do it again next time. In that sense the punishment serves a purpose. But some people seem to enjoy the unhappiness of others. Its not my preferred perspective on justice, and its one I prefer we keep in the dark ages. Spite is not a great quality.
This I do understand and agree whole heartedly. And if my responses are read as demeaning I apologize that certainly was not my intention. However when a person admits to doing something that has a LOT of people riled up they should expect that they are going to be told, "Suck it up I have no sympathy for you and I would have banned you."
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It doesnt mean he has to agree with any criticism by default. IMHO cheaters should be punished beyond just removing the exploited stuff, otherwise there is zero reason not to do it again next time. In that sense the punishment serves a purpose. But some people seem to enjoy the unhappiness of others. Its not my preferred perspective on justice, and its one I prefer we keep in the dark ages. Spite is not a great quality.
Zero reason to not do it next time? Wrong, losing legit modules or cheat modules that used to have legit rolls hurts, I certanly would learn the lesson if this happened to me.
Read it again, thats what I say: if they only removed the cheated modules, there would be no reason to not do it again. So removing all of them serves a purpose. Its literally my point.
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