Guy Managed to export 3D models from Elite

[greenlantern]

One of my hobbies is building scale models, in particular scratch building. At some point I'll probably try my hand at one of the ships in the game. Say I were to use screen shots of a Python, or even an extracted 3D model, to aid in construction and airbrushing a scale model. Then I post photos of it to the forum because I'm sure there are people here that would enjoy seeing something like that. Going by the letter of the law with the EULA will I get my account banned? Technically FD could if they wanted. But I'm going to err on the side of being reasonable and say probably not. Especially if all I'm doing with the model is displaying it in my hobby room and not selling it on ebay or something else to make a profit.

Actually after reading some of the responses in this thread I can't wait to do just this to see how many people would call for an investigation and banning.

You could even sell them if you did it as openly being your model of an ED ship. Making the clear distinction that ED is no part of it (not affiliated). The main reason is it's unlikely a tangible model ship would be mistaken for a digital ship (you created something new). Not so if the ships are trademarked. In that case it's not possible for you to make the distinction that ED is not affiliated, as by definition the general ship appearance itself would imply affiliation. (like if I painted pepsi logos and sold them, pepsi could stop me)


The EULA cannot supersede your LOCAL laws (Fed, state, prov, terr, ect).

 

[Schmack]

I don't think you could sell anything with the advertisement that it's "ED" anything because "ED" is copyrighted and any profit from sale of items using their name or likeness of their merchandise is illegal in most civilized societies, can't speak for those black market outposts though.

 

[N6MAA10816]

It would also provide a means for people to get 3D printed ship models to place around their desktop <- though for they could do this without even providing the 3D models.

You have just given FD an idea to increase revenue (more funds to improve game content)
As a Military Modeler, I would love to see these 'Blanks'.. the fun you could have doing your own 'thang' with colour schemes etc!
1.But they would have to be affordable....
2.In different scales with prices rising accordingly/realistically for the 'Privileged' CMDR's among us....

Kourgath223 +rep

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note also that 3D models used to PRINT in 3D may require specific things, that may not be suitable with the in game model

and yes that would be a great way for Frontier to make more money and please fans, offer 3D printed or plastic model kits of ships!

Apols SilverbladeTE, I posted before I read your thread!....

 

[Sanderson]

Let's be positive. Maybe the lack of a quick response is a good thing?

Other than FD is busy and can't read or respond to hundreds of threads a day, that is.

Wasn't a lot of what people are asking for covered a while back in an API or mod thread? Hmm. Can't remember.

 

[Archvillain]

How it works where I work (and I'm fairly sure FD will be the same) is that going after infringement is something we really prefer not to do when it involves stomping on the userbase. We want people to be excited about the game, we love that they invest in it and that they share our love of it, we want them to spread that excitement to others, we want them to build community. We can never say that a particular infringement is ok, but if it does little harm then we can pretend we saw nothing while secretly wishing them the best.
BUT...
If the infringement has the potential to threaten something, or misrepresent something, then something will be done about it. For example, if a game studio is interested in licensing their IP to a miniatures company, and that licensee might want exclusive rights, then the studio will have to take unauthorized models much more seriously than if there were no such plans, and that might tip the balance from "look the other way" to "risk being seen as the bad guy".

In FD's case, I believe they are trying to offer licensing for both amateur and commercial ventures, but I don't think they've got that stuff really sorted out yet. So don't rule out jumping through some hoops to gain a legitimate path (and don't press for an official response to something that infringes or breaks EULA, because regardless of how the IP owner feels about it, almost the only official response available to them is "stop")

 

[Sanderson]

My fear is that FD has plans for this sort of thing but, they haven't had time to do it yet. So, instead people start using stuff like this before proper modding tools are released thereby muddying the water so to speak.

Time will tell, hope FD can cut this off at the pass with "official" tools someday soon.

 

[(-o-)]

ok i got this answer from the Elite support about the method described in OPs vid-link:

"Hi ********,

Thanks for getting in touch. Under the terms of the Elite: Dangerous EULA this is not allowed. Here's the relevant part:

3. Licence Restrictions
You are not permitted:
[here they list (a) - (g) but i choose to leave that out for now, its essentially what i already quoted from the EULA in my earlier post]

​

We'll be in touch with the creator of the video to let him know the score.

Regards,

Mike
Elite: Dangerous Customer Support"

so there u have it.. if u wanna extract 3d models u will have to find another way.. DO NOT risk getting ur account locked by using hacker tools...

OP, maybe time to remove those links now?

 

[Synther]

That's unfortunate. Hopefully there's a less intrusive way of doing it.

 

[Hagledesperado]

Opinions are like Internet lawyers. Everybody is one. No, wait, that wasn't it.

 

[Evil]

ok i got this answer from the Elite support about the method described in OPs vid-link:

"Hi ********,

Thanks for getting in touch. Under the terms of the Elite: Dangerous EULA this is not allowed. Here's the relevant part:

3. Licence Restrictions
You are not permitted:
[here they list (a) - (g) but i choose to leave that out for now, its essentially what i already quoted from the EULA in my earlier post]

​

We'll be in touch with the creator of the video to let him know the score.

Regards,

Mike
Elite: Dangerous Customer Support"

so there u have it.. if u wanna extract 3d models u will have to find another way.. DO NOT risk getting ur account locked by using hacker tools...

OP, maybe time to remove those links now?

Yeah they have to say this as its in line with the EULA, the thing is it could take them many years to get back to him , generally these situations are ignored until the person makes money or presents a negative perspective of the company, in which case they will hunt him down and drain him of all ill gotten gains.

Me personally I would see this as "Fair Use" under copyright legislation.

 

[I and I Redeye]

ok i got this answer from the Elite support about the method described in OPs vid-link:

"Hi ********,

Thanks for getting in touch. Under the terms of the Elite: Dangerous EULA this is not allowed. Here's the relevant part:

3. Licence Restrictions
You are not permitted:
[here they list (a) - (g) but i choose to leave that out for now, its essentially what i already quoted from the EULA in my earlier post]

​

We'll be in touch with the creator of the video to let him know the score.

Regards,

Mike
Elite: Dangerous Customer Support"

so there u have it.. if u wanna extract 3d models u will have to find another way.. DO NOT risk getting ur account locked by using hacker tools...

OP, maybe time to remove those links now?

That was quite nasty of you to do that.
To look for a way to get this kid banned.
Not impressed with this community.

 

[bossbrigand]

That was quite nasty of you to do that.
To look for a way to get this kid banned.
Not impressed with this community.

Yeah there's a lot of pointlessly vindictive schadenfreude junkies around the community unfortunately. If they see a way to force you to desist anything you did, no matter what it is, they'll jump on it. It's one of the reasons I'm unwilling to post my short stories here.

 

[WiseDuck]

That was quite nasty of you to do that.
To look for a way to get this kid banned.
Not impressed with this community.

This community is very anti community tbh.

 

[Tulkas97]

ok i got this answer from the Elite support about the method described in OPs vid-link:

"Hi ********,

Thanks for getting in touch. Under the terms of the Elite: Dangerous EULA this is not allowed. Here's the relevant part:

3. Licence Restrictions
You are not permitted:
[here they list (a) - (g) but i choose to leave that out for now, its essentially what i already quoted from the EULA in my earlier post]

​

We'll be in touch with the creator of the video to let him know the score.

Regards,

Mike
Elite: Dangerous Customer Support"

so there u have it.. if u wanna extract 3d models u will have to find another way.. DO NOT risk getting ur account locked by using hacker tools...

OP, maybe time to remove those links now?

Wow. Just wow man. Petty much? You seem like the kind of person that sits on their back porch spying on their neighbor just waiting for an excuse to call the zoning board, sheriff, code enforcement officer etc.

 

[Extreme_One]

ok i got this answer from the Elite support about the method described in OPs vid-link:

"Hi ********,

Thanks for getting in touch. Under the terms of the Elite: Dangerous EULA this is not allowed. Here's the relevant part:

3. Licence Restrictions
You are not permitted:
[here they list (a) - (g) but i choose to leave that out for now, its essentially what i already quoted from the EULA in my earlier post]

​

We'll be in touch with the creator of the video to let him know the score.

Regards,

Mike
Elite: Dangerous Customer Support"

so there u have it.. if u wanna extract 3d models u will have to find another way.. DO NOT risk getting ur account locked by using hacker tools...

OP, maybe time to remove those links now?

Wow. And you're proud of yourself?

I'd be utterly ashamed.
I work hard to teach my kids that it's not cool to go round telling tales.
Seems your parents didn't teach you the same.

 

[Kerrash]

Okay, this topic stops here.