Swords ! a bit dodgy with the Mag boots, you could end up having it stuck thru you foot.
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Handheld weapons in the Elite universe
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Swords ! a bit dodgy with the Mag boots, you could end up having it stuck thru you foot.
Highly prised??
*sigh* Clearly, someone needs to enable the spell checker at FD!
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There are spelling errors in some rare good descriptions, but this one probably my transcription, rather than the original.
Hand grenades. Always hand grenades. People know you're serious when don't give two swingin' wingnuts about collateral damage, especially if you're not concerned that collateral damage may include you, given how easy it is to come back to life and more-or-less intact.
Just a little note on collateral damage:
Current airliners are protected well enough that a bullet won't cause catastrophic failure/decompression. (Explosives are another matter as proven by recent events).
Given airliners are made as light as possible for fuel efficiency and not at all armoured I'd say ships of Elite (who don't care about efficiency) and particularly stations should easily be able to tank a few thousand rounds, especially if their exterior strength of being undamaged by a fully loaded T9 ramming it is to be believed
The biggest issue with kinetic energy is recoil since in zero or low G you will need your back to a wall to fire it. Unless clever recoil mechanics are developed (or handwaviumed) these will literally throw their users around the room!
Current airliners are protected well enough that a bullet won't cause catastrophic failure/decompression. (Explosives are another matter as proven by recent events).
Given airliners are made as light as possible for fuel efficiency and not at all armoured I'd say ships of Elite (who don't care about efficiency) and particularly stations should easily be able to tank a few thousand rounds, especially if their exterior strength of being undamaged by a fully loaded T9 ramming it is to be believed
The biggest issue with kinetic energy is recoil since in zero or low G you will need your back to a wall to fire it. Unless clever recoil mechanics are developed (or handwaviumed) these will literally throw their users around the room!
About 4,000cr a ton at a stockist near you.
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Not "that" movie. The SciFi channel miniseries was far better.
I was thinking about the Dune books when I posted about shields. Dune made knives more neccesary since lasgun vs shield was usually unfortunate for everyone nearby. Worked really well in the boardgame
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edit. though the movie was dissapointing. The wierding modules were actually a cool concept. Just nothing to do with the book - though that statement applies to everything about the movie except the name.
Yep totally agree (apart from the Wierding modules: They were there purely to try to shoehorn some quasi-laser gun thing into the movie, because as Star Wars was all the rage at the time everyone wanted lasers in their movies). I've always been more of a fan of the books and as you state, the excellent board game.
But I think we're going off topic...
Maybe some kind of 'smart flechette' on a timer, or even some kind of putty - something that expands quickly once shot so it'll go through a squishy target a few feet away but by the time it hits a bulkhead, it's spread out enough so the energy is disssipated over a larger area, stopping it punching through stuff.
The Dune universe already had LasGuns to begin with. They react explosively when they strike a shield remember? The movie never even touched on the other weapons like the dart guns, hidden garrotes, etc...
I think they just got lazy and couldn't figure out a way to depict Bene Gesserit Space Kung Fu on screen so hey lets add these weirding modules!
In Elite knives & swords & non-lethal & low velocity projectile launchers make the most sense for storming a vessel in space. Large caliber, explosive, incendiary, directed energy for all out combat on the surface or large stations.
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Just a little note on collateral damage:
Current airliners are protected well enough that a bullet won't cause catastrophic failure/decompression. (Explosives are another matter as proven by recent events).
Given airliners are made as light as possible for fuel efficiency and not at all armoured I'd say ships of Elite (who don't care about efficiency) and particularly stations should easily be able to tank a few thousand rounds, especially if their exterior strength of being undamaged by a fully loaded T9 ramming it is to be believed
The biggest issue with kinetic energy is recoil since in zero or low G you will need your back to a wall to fire it. Unless clever recoil mechanics are developed (or handwaviumed) these will literally throw their users around the room!
I doubt there is handheld weaponry powerful enough to damage the integrity of a station
And if your ship hull and canopy can take a beating from a C2 Multicannon, you'll need something bigger than a standard pistol or rifle to pierce it from within.
Ricochets are far more likely to kill you in that enviroment.
For the point with the recoil:
It's well possible today to counter recoil, at least in parts, so it shouldn't be a problem to counter it in 1300 years.
Edit: pretty nice thread, btw. Not only for the Lore and RP crowd.
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I don't want, and I can't emphasize this enough, Elite to turn into an FPS shooter in any shape or form. If I want to play stuff like that I'll boot up something from the Far Cry series, Fallout or The Division.
On second thought, I'll qualify that statement. If Elite ever develops a long term criminal / karma / notoriety system where there are substantial in-game penalties for shooting up a CLEAN status ship or individual, then fine. But getting nailed in the back by some yahoo who only gets a fine / bounty is no deterrent to idiocy and will be another source of irritation if not done right.
On second thought, I'll qualify that statement. If Elite ever develops a long term criminal / karma / notoriety system where there are substantial in-game penalties for shooting up a CLEAN status ship or individual, then fine. But getting nailed in the back by some yahoo who only gets a fine / bounty is no deterrent to idiocy and will be another source of irritation if not done right.
We honestly don't know. However it will be very interesting to see what they come up with.
My idea would be something like this.
Non lethal weapons:
Taser type of weapons.
Nano type of tech weapons.
Sound weapons or wave weapons
Shield generating weapons
Lethal weapons projectile:
Rail gun type of weapon
old school types
Energy weapons:
Laser
Plasma
Particle beam weapons
My idea would be something like this.
Non lethal weapons:
Taser type of weapons.
Nano type of tech weapons.
Sound weapons or wave weapons
Shield generating weapons
Lethal weapons projectile:
Rail gun type of weapon
old school types
Energy weapons:
Laser
Plasma
Particle beam weapons
Let's hear it for Long bows and Atlatl!
And that Klingon blade thingy.
What about Mjolnir? It was forged from the core of a neutron star right? Although it could cause a little bit of collateral damage.
And that Klingon blade thingy.
What about Mjolnir? It was forged from the core of a neutron star right? Although it could cause a little bit of collateral damage.
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I have a mental picture of you locking your mag boots, taking aim with your colt 45, firing and then twatting the back of your head on the floor as you pivot backward at the knees.
I truly believe that the DEVS are aware, and want to do something about it.
Incorrect, given that you, your weapon and the station are in sync under the coriolis effect. This is, very roughly and somewhat disingenuously, equivalent to the motion of a car and its passengers.
In order for the coriolis effect to have an targeting impact on the weapon, the weapon would need to be outside of the coriolis effect WHEN fired into the coriolis, resulting in a change of gravitation.
I'm no physicist, but I would imagine that the lack of gravity wouldn't play such a huge role in the recoil, as long as the wielder was anchored (by, say, maglock boots). Conservation of momentum is the source of the recoil, and mass is independent of a gravity field.
The following snippet is from http://physics.stackexchange.com/qu...space-or-would-the-recoil-of-the-gun-be-too-s
The following snippet is from http://physics.stackexchange.com/qu...space-or-would-the-recoil-of-the-gun-be-too-s