handlingsplan for rømming fra interdiction

Parkin Son

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Som fredelig handelsmann og eksplorer stikker jeg gjerne fra interdiction i solo spill, grunnet helse.
(Samtidig forsøker jeg meg litt på bruk av VoiceAttack for å gjøre livet lettere.)
Har kikket litt her og der og kommet fram til en foreløpig plan for et SIDEWINDER skip.
Mon tro om dette kan gjelde for et HAULER skip også?
Hvis noen har tips så svar gjerne.

Først en midlertidig VA-kode og deretter en pseudo kode

As a peaceful trader and explorer, I like to avoid interdiction in solo games, due to health.
(At the same time, I try to use VoiceAttack to make life easier.)
Have looked a bit here and there and arrived at a preliminary plan for a SIDEWINDER ship.
I wonder if this can apply to a HAULER ship as well?
If anyone has any tips please reply.

First a temporary VA code and then a pseudo code
Code: 
Execute command, 'navigation' (and wait until it completes)
Say, 'say END when ready'
Wait for spoken response: 'end'
Press D key and hold for 0.05 seconds and release
Pause 0.1 seconds
Press D key and hold for 0.05 seconds and release
Pause 0.1 seconds
Execute command, 'maks' (and wait until it completes)
Say, 'full speed'
Pause 0.5 seconds
Say, 'Aim at portal and start f.s.d'
Pause 0.5 seconds
Execute command, 'boost' (and wait until it completes)
Execute command, 'balance' (and wait until it completes)
Press Left Shift key and hold for 0.05 seconds and release

PSEUDO KODE:
Fjern alle unødvendigheter i Navigation filteret før reisen.
Code: 
select NAVIGATION TAB and lock SYSTEM TO JUMP
si END når ferdig
set full speed 100%
sikt mot portal og start fsd
boost speed
balance power to engine and system (3 pips på hver)
vis cockpit
 
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Fnord Velkor

Fnord Velkor
Wouldn't this go against the FDEV rule against automation? Probably not since HCS Voicepacks do some similar linked actions on command - I don't know, just asking.

EDIT - BTW - My Norwegian is very sketchy but for anyone wondering, the OP is suggesting these VA codes could be used to deal with interdictions and is asking for any comments on them. I know nothing about VA so over to people more au fait with that.
 
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Ashnak

Ashnak
And what the script basically seems to do is to help perform a high wake. So neither avoiding an interdiction nor helping that much after an interdiction - you'll still have to wait for the cooldown and manually aim towards your target system. If you're still alive.
 

Parkin Son

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Good question Fnord. I dont know if Frontier has ever answered it. Elite Dangerous and Voice Attack ha been riding along for some years now.
I see it as legal as long as you stick to the commands in VA itself, not adding any code of any programming languages. If It wasnt, I wouldent have posted it.
I judge its legal, as many large companies are selling voice to command utilites like VA.You can buy ready made voice commands i.e. by HCS.
An example: Going directly to a tab within a panel would be a cheat as it isnt possible without using inline function(s) or plugins with same type of code. VA code cant achieve this without errors.
This voice to command utility makes lots of disabled people beeing able to play game. I doubt none of them would be of any threath for You ingame, even with a cheat. Disables wish to play, not cheat.
Hopefully this made it som clearer and the disabled can continue play this beautiful game.
And thank You for promoting this question.
 
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STRONTIUM DOG

STRONTIUM DOG
its really only if you gain a tactical advantage like pip management in combat else I think it's limited to 5 macro auto inputs per command or something like that
and its not setup to multi hop stars and auto scoop refuel ect
some clarification though would be nice but as va is so versatile fd could never fully say what you can cannot do but any kind of pvp advantage should be totally avoided that's just common sense
a fast ship will easily out run a npc with full pips to engines so if you cant avoid the tunnel submit throttle to zero and as soon as your hostile appears keep straight line boosting till clear normally about 6 km 14km and there should be no sight of them so your clear to continue at lesiure
avoid thargoid areas as you wont outrun them unless your in a dirty drive modded ship ect
I would avoid open server too as you may get ganked by an unfriendly commander and maybe join a big pve group like https://elitepve.com/page/join
where any cmdr's encountred are all friendly
 
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Fnord Velkor

Fnord Velkor
Like I said above, HCS VoicePacks do carry-out multiple actions via VA on certain commands and HCS are very hand-in-glove with FDEV (see the COVASs for example). So I am sure there is no blanket "ban" on using VA to carry out certain sequence of events but again, it would be great to have some sort of guidance from the horse's mouth. The reason I made my earlier post was the apparent number of steps but since I know nothing about VA, that made me ask.
 

UseLessUK

UseLessUK
Fnord Velkor said:
Like I said above, HCS VoicePacks do carry-out multiple actions via VA on certain commands and HCS are very hand-in-glove with FDEV (see the COVASs for example). So I am sure there is no blanket "ban" on using VA to carry out certain sequence of events but again, it would be great to have some sort of guidance from the horse's mouth. The reason I made my earlier post was the apparent number of steps but since I know nothing about VA, that made me ask.
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Well perhaps @Arthur Tolmie or @sallymorganmoore could provide more information?
 

Marvin the Martian

Marvin the Martian
Ashnak said:
And what the script basically seems to do is to help perform a high wake. So neither avoiding an interdiction nor helping that much after an interdiction - you'll still have to wait for the cooldown and manually aim towards your target system. If you're still alive.
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It's always been amusing to me that people will spend days on end trying to program something, test it and implement it as well as spend weeks haggling the "legal" aspects of it to avoid something that last roughly 19 seconds.
 

Fnord Velkor

Fnord Velkor
Marvin the Martian said:
It's always been amusing to me that people will spend days on end trying to program something, test it and implement it as well as spend weeks haggling the "legal" aspects of it to avoid something that last roughly 19 seconds.
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You ignore the fact that they said it was as an aid because of health considerations.


"This voice to command utility makes lots of disabled people beeing able to play game. I doubt none of them would be of any threath for You ingame, even with a cheat. Disables wish to play, not cheat.
Hopefully this made it som clearer and the disabled can continue play this beautiful game."
 
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