Help losing 'hostile' status with Federal faction.

soapmak3r · Feb 27, 2015

Ok, so from bounty hunting at RESs (I assume, because I did a lot of that) I am now 'hostile' with the federal faction.

This makes trading in federal controlled space very difficult as federal security open fire on me instantly as soon as I get within range of a station...They will fire on the station and even through the entrance of the station while I am trying to land...

The station itself does not fire on me, though.

So, I followed advice and shared all of my cartography with federal stations, killed some pirates within the federal systems and after docking at a station (name escapes me now) I went from hostile, to 'unfriendly' and safely left that station.

I thought that this would be the end of my federal troubles, but at the next federal station I dropped at, they were all hostile and blew my ship up before I could dock...What gives?
Does the news of my new 'unfriendly' status take a while to circulate, or am I supposed to run missions for every flipping federal run station in the galaxy until they all no longer try to blow me up on sight??

The system here is pretty frustrating and seems kind of broken to be honest.

soapmak3r · Feb 27, 2015

Wow...Threads disappear incredibly quickly around here. No one has any advice on this? Once hostile will I remain hostile forever or does it expire?

Daud · Feb 27, 2015

Do you have a bounty? If so, pay it through the contact tab.

soapmak3r · Feb 27, 2015

Daud said:
Do you have a bounty? If so, pay it through the contact tab.

Nope. No bounties and no fines. Just showing reputation as hostile in federal controlled systems. There is no way to buy your way out of it unfortunately.

Apparently running missions for fed stations, or selling exploration data to them, or bounty hunting wanted people in their systems gain your reputation back, but after getting my rep back to 'unfriendly' in one fed system, it hasn't changed anywhere else...or has reverted back to hostile for no reason.

soapmak3r · Mar 1, 2015

Well...Seems like I have no option but to avoid Federal controlled space now, as nothing I am doing seems to work.

Is it because I am 'allied' with the Empire faction? I seem to have achieved this by wracking up bounties in empire controlled space...Nothing is explained. The underlying (and even base) mechanics are very obtuse. It makes entering the game difficult, and often leads to a lot of frustration on down the line.

Roger · Mar 1, 2015

I also have a similar problem.

Spend most of my time Bounty Hunting and Smuggling. In the early days I accidentally fired upon some Authority ship and gained a wanted status. Easily removed by paying a fine. I also gained a hostile rep with the Federal systems as I killed someone after they attacked me. The voice said I was under attack so I defended myself and destroyed the attacker. The problem was that we were in a Federal System and the attacker was not wanted within that system. The result of this attack was that I became wanted with a high bounty, which meant I became a legitimate target for people like myself a Bounty Hunter. I had to defend myself several times before I could get to a station and pay off the bounty - hence the Hostile status.

I have been trying everything I can think of to reduce this status by taking on helpful missions from Federal Stations, helping to clear systems of pirates, hunting pirates at Nav Beacons, USS and extraction sites, doing mercy missions to help stricken Federal run stations etc. etc. etc.

I am still classed as hostile in Federal systems. Not sure how long it will take to reduce this to a different status, but I have been doing everything I can think of for about a month now without success. Sorry to say buddy, but you have a long haul ahead of you or you need to head off into an alternatively run area.

Babul · Mar 1, 2015

i had the same problem, and by going to do combat-bond missions in fed space, i quickly turned to unfriendly - all in Solo.
make sure to inform yourself about the faction-relations of the outpost you might want to land on (and perhaps accept a mission in), since their security is almost not present, and the station surely wont fire at you.

edit: was fun to kill smaller ships like eagles and sideys, i didnt want to risk to loose my precious Asp - so go for kill-quantity, not -quality ^^

Garagiste · Mar 1, 2015

It seems to take a hell of a lot of work to repair rep. I'm still unfriendly with the Feds after stupidly submitting to an interdiction with their plans in my hold.
Doing whatever missions are offered & selling rare in their space - consistent blue up arrows, but not back to neutral yet.

soapmak3r · Mar 1, 2015

Roger said:
I also have a similar problem.

Spend most of my time Bounty Hunting and Smuggling. In the early days I accidentally fired upon some Authority ship and gained a wanted status. Easily removed by paying a fine. I also gained a hostile rep with the Federal systems as I killed someone after they attacked me. The voice said I was under attack so I defended myself and destroyed the attacker. The problem was that we were in a Federal System and the attacker was not wanted within that system. The result of this attack was that I became wanted with a high bounty, which meant I became a legitimate target for people like myself a Bounty Hunter. I had to defend myself several times before I could get to a station and pay off the bounty - hence the Hostile status.

I have been trying everything I can think of to reduce this status by taking on helpful missions from Federal Stations, helping to clear systems of pirates, hunting pirates at Nav Beacons, USS and extraction sites, doing mercy missions to help stricken Federal run stations etc. etc. etc.

I am still classed as hostile in Federal systems. Not sure how long it will take to reduce this to a different status, but I have been doing everything I can think of for about a month now without success. Sorry to say buddy, but you have a long haul ahead of you or you need to head off into an alternatively run area.

I figure it must be a bug. At one federal controlled station I went from 'hostile' to 'unfriendly' after cashing in a few local bounties and selling system data to them, then by the time I had reached the next federal station, a couple of jumps away, I was hostile again. I have been hostile at every federal station since. It doesn't make sense.

It's making trading in rares a lot more hassle as I am passing on all the federal stations, due to just having bought and outfitted an ASP an not wanting to have to replace it because I either get blown up before I can land in a station, or slam into the side of the station trying to 'thread the needle' at full speed.

The bizarre thing is that the federal system authority vessels fire like crazy at me (within the no fire zone), but end up hitting the station repeatedly and will even fire into the station, through the entrance as I am landing there. The station itself does not fire on me, ever. This doesn't make much logical sense, which is why I figure it is a bug...or just a very flawed game mechanic.

TriumphANT · Mar 2, 2015

Aaaargh. Any definitive clue on how to get rid of "unfriendly" in the Federation? I've only ever done Fed missions, am up to Petty Officer (or might be Chief Petty Officer), and I got a 200Cr fine for hitting a Viper SSV which interdicted me. I fired without thinking. 200Cr. Now I've been unfriendly for about a week. I've been doing missions, but anything decent is "this faction doesn't trust you enough".

Anything? Do I need to find Gallite and take 996Cr worth of plans back and forward for a bit to build some Fed faction rep?

It's not affecting me too much, other than the stations being a bit rude, but for a single misdemeanor the reaction seems totally excessive.

soapmak3r · Mar 2, 2015

TriumphANT said:
Aaaargh. Any definitive clue on how to get rid of "unfriendly" in the Federation? I've only ever done Fed missions, am up to Petty Officer (or might be Chief Petty Officer), and I got a 200Cr fine for hitting a Viper SSV which interdicted me. I fired without thinking. 200Cr. Now I've been unfriendly for about a week. I've been doing missions, but anything decent is "this faction doesn't trust you enough".

Anything? Do I need to find Gallite and take 996Cr worth of plans back and forward for a bit to build some Fed faction rep?

It's not affecting me too much, other than the stations being a bit rude, but for a single misdemeanor the reaction seems totally excessive.

Unfortunately not. I am now forced to just avoid fed controlled space. To even dock at their stations requires too much risk for me now, as my ASP will take 500 grand to replace if they get me before I dock.

DuQuesne · Mar 3, 2015

Haven't had any hostile/unfriendly issues myself, and being a loyal Empire citizen I haven't much interest in what the Feds think of me either, but the one tip I can give is to try running missions in independent systems for Fed factions. It'll take a while, but that way you should be able to (slowly) repair your reputation without risking getting shot at by the authorities.

Ram Paige · Mar 3, 2015

OP, I feel your pain. It's been an impossible struggle to get reputation with any of the 3 main factions. It's much easier to do with the smaller ones; factions that only cover one or two systems but, with the big 3, forget it. Not until they work out the screwy bugs that afflict ALL of those missions, and I do mean ALL of them. If it's a USS mission, AVOID IT. If it's a milsec mission, AVOID IT. If it's a 'take message from here to there', AVOID IT. The only 'safe' way to get reputation is by giving the faction goods if the mission is offered and they're in your hold. Otherwise, just say no. It's a bottomless pit, one you will never, ever climb out of.

In your case, since fed is HOSTILE with you, you would have to become UNFRIENDLY with EACH and EVERY of the fed faction systems. Yup, that's right. Get ready for one helluva long grind.

Welcome to Elite.

Dominico · Mar 3, 2015

Having been through this and asked for help and got none i feel your pain lol. I will wrige guides when i get time for this game.

In a nutshell you need to raise your status with 2 or 3 minor factions if you want to fix your status. No smuggling, no illegal missions.

Try sticking in one area. Work on that are and do missions for federal aligned people in system. Once you improve that system it will become a safe haven for you.

The best missions are of course rep misions. Do your pennance.

It can be done ive got from hostile to unfriendly overall.

Hand in bounties and maps only at fed stations.

Boost in and ignore fire.
You can do missions for enemies of feds but dont complete. Wqit till someone offers something better at uss and thentake that. But i didnt find that to work so well. Only if you are short on missions.
Finally if you dont care so much just go to allied/empjre space.

Basically its a cool system of reputation but complicated and you will get no help.

CMDR Swift Arrow · Mar 3, 2015

One way to raise your reputation is to do a heck of a LOT of bounty hunting. Just bounty hunt all day, every day, in a nav point or RES in an ANARCHY system bordering both empire and fed space. Just do nothing but that all the time. Then hand in your bounties at an outpost when you are done for the day.

You WILL need to turn in bounties in the low 7 figures and kill THOUSANDS of pirate ships, but it is one of the best ways to reliably grind reputation. The best part is that you'll be getting positive rep for 2, maybe all 3 major factions at once by doing this and turning in your bounties (this is key).

Kaeldian · Mar 3, 2015

That's wierd, because I'm actually as follows

Feds - Allied
Alliance - Friendly
Empire - Overall nuetral, but I'm friendly at some of their stations.

All I do is bounty hunt with the occasional warzone work.

Swidhelm · Mar 3, 2015

I would assume you ended up hostile to the Federation by taking out ships that belonged to Fed friendly factions. Can't say I've had that happen, but that would be my guess. Pay attention to the factions of those you interdict, or are targeting anyways, when bounty hunting. And of course pay attention to the factions in a given system where you plan to land.

To get back in their good graces, just keep grinding away on small missions, and/or trade with factions that are fed friendly. Eventually you will get the missions that are currently unavailable to you.

Fian · Mar 3, 2015

Ram Paige said:
OP, I feel your pain. It's been an impossible struggle to get reputation with any of the 3 main factions. It's much easier to do with the smaller ones; factions that only cover one or two systems but, with the big 3, forget it. Not until they work out the screwy bugs that afflict ALL of those missions, and I do mean ALL of them. If it's a USS mission, AVOID IT. If it's a milsec mission, AVOID IT. If it's a 'take message from here to there', AVOID IT. The only 'safe' way to get reputation is by giving the faction goods if the mission is offered and they're in your hold. Otherwise, just say no. It's a bottomless pit, one you will never, ever climb out of.

In your case, since fed is HOSTILE with you, you would have to become UNFRIENDLY with EACH and EVERY of the fed faction systems. Yup, that's right. Get ready for one helluva long grind.

Welcome to Elite.

This is incorrect. You need to move your Federation faction rep from hostile to unfriendly. Then all "unknown" fed factions will default to unfriendly.

Moving the minor (local) faction to unfriendly will not move unknown factions, that effect is local only. You need to move the major faction rep. You don't need to individually move each of the minor faction reps.

I went from neutral to hostile Fed rep when found with "stolen" cargo, can't remember which cargo it was. Now I am unfriendly. I intend to move to a Federation trade route at some point and move my major faction rep by trading back and forth, that is how i went to allied with the Imperials.

Try to rep up at outposts rather than stations until you get to unfriendly, to avoid system security ships.

insanephoton · Mar 3, 2015

Selling a load of exploration data at a Fed station might help, it certainly won't do any harm.