[HELP] Navy ranks grind

Edit: there are a couple of tips I've gathered from people in this thread, people in game and my own roaming around. Some of that stuff may not be for you, since it may involve some out of game tactics one can consider an exploit. Since the road towards Rear Admiral can be a massive pain if one really focuses on it all the time, I still believe any metaphorical analgesic/psychotherapy is valid

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o7 CMDRs, sorry for this rant / help asking. Read further at your own risk.

Man, this stuff is hardcore. Lots and lots and lots and lotsa missions all over the place. I've been mostly doing the Boom data deliveries, since they don't need cargo and give medium reputation. Still a Cadet :eek:

Do you guys know of any time efficient way of doing it? Currently using a DBX. Any faster ship, like, for docking, and does it matter?

Is it important to get higher than cordial rep level with the minor factions? Does it give higher rep missions?

There is an interesting guide thread from 2014. But it seems outdated, and got mod blocked.

Anyway, fly Dangerous!!!

Edit 1: another question: do assassinate missions targets only appear during the said time interval (03:30 to 05:30 for example) or are the targets scannable outside those times?

Edit 2: are surface scan missions those ones you have to drop into a planetary base and kill skimmers/ goliaths and data scan pylons with your SRV?

CMDR Maymo says:

I'll answer the ones I can...

Firstly, there are no other activities that can increase your rank, it's all about the missions and they always have to come from a minor faction that is allied with either the Feds or the Imps.

Yes there are definitely some missions that increase rank progression more than others. Pirate Lord missions for example award a higher increase. Planetary scan missions are worth around 2 data delivery missions. And donations are always very good, I was able to test donation missions at a very low rank and can confirm that they do increase rank more if you donate more credits.

But you should always factor in the time investment when pushing for rank...
If, in the time it takes you to do one pirate lord mission you could run several data missions then it's simply not going to be worth it. You have to hang around a planet for an unknown amount of time when doing pirate missions and it's the same for black box and salvage assignments. They eat time.

Even standard delivery missions mean you're going to have to jigsaw all the cargo together which is only going to slow you down.

The two best ranking up missions are data delivery and donations. Both can be done in any ship and don't require a large cargo hold or significant combat prowess. Unfortunately they're also the most boring.


Edit 3: so, people who love Elite Dangerous to the point of grinding your hearts and souls out for a Federal Corvette, I've gathered advice from this thread's contributors and my own trial and error mission piñata. Here it goes.

1. How to climb up the Federation ranks: do missions for minor factions aligned with the Feds.

When docked, open the Starport Services, click Missions, check the list of factions to your left. Those with the Fed emblem are the ones you need. Data Delivery and Donate missions give ++ rep, and are currently the fastest way to climb. They're also arguably mind-numbing after a while. Some kinds of missions give the most rep (+++) but the time to completion is hardly efficient when compared to the former, albeit funnier and a change of pace. Don't forget, though, that some Data Delivery / Cargo Delivery missions have a target Station which is very far away from the system center, therefore sometimes it's just best to ignore said mission; a 300000Ls SuperCruise is hardly worth it in terms of time efficiency.

Gaining rep with the minor faction accumulates rep with the Feds, but reaching Allied status with many minor factions will give proportionally more rep than grinding a single minor faction all the time. As you go up, the contribution achieved by each mission progressively decreases, so Data Delivery gives 2% towards the next rank when at lower ranks (probably up to Midshipman), but can give as low as 0.25% on the top Ranks.

After reaching 100% of the current rank, a Naval mission will appear in the list of missions of a minor faction. It'll be locked as "Requirements not met" if you're not Friendly with said minor faction yet. So, be sure to check the whole list of missions of any aligned minor faction you encounter after reaching 100% of a rank. The Naval mission itself can be of any type of mission: Donate, Data Delivery, Cargo Delivery, Source Commodities, Surface Data Scan, Smuggling, Settlement Assault, Salvage, Assassinate, Massacre (in Conflict Zones), Piracy ("liberate" hostages or goods), just as examples. They don't have to be immediately accepted, though; roaming around you may find other Naval mission, off different kinds, in other Starports of different Systems.

Systems such as NLTT 21440 contain six aligned minor factions or more, and more than one station close to each other, also near the system center, making it faster than seeking minor factions all over the bubble; aim for those kinds of places.

Combat Bonds, Bounty Vouchers and exploration data sold at Universal Cartoghraphics give no Fed rep. They give lots of rep with the minor faction that controls the Starport, though, which can make it easier to get more missions from them, and if you have those prizes with you when you spot an interesting locked Naval ascension misson, they're definitely useful for reaching Friendly status fast.

2. I've reached that point (past Petty Officer probably) when the stuff gets hardcore, but I'm still stubborn enough to not give it a break: if that's your case, there are unorthodox ways around the grind, but keep in mind they can be immersion breaking, arguably exploiting, or really not for you. Read at your own risk.

(Disclaimer: I've felt the need to put this stuff here because the way up the ranks is really, really a chore as of 2.3 version. I make a huge apology/autocritics at the end, stick with me).

Sothis is neighbor to Ceos (9+Ly IIRC).Sothis has Newholm Station and, close by, Sothis Mining station. Ceos has New Dawn Station. Since there are no other Fed stations in a 300+Ly radius, many missions go forth and back between both systems. There's only one Fed aligned minor faction, plus Sirius corporation and two others. Grabbing missions from these other three factions give rep for the Fed minor faction sometimes, as the deliveries eventually cross between all the four.

Here comes the thing. You're allowed to stack up to 20 missions at a time. Grab all Data Delivery missions in Newholm Station, quit to main menu and log into a different mode, grab the new Data Deliveries and go to Sothis Mining. Repeat there. Jump into Ceos and complete the missions in New Dawn Station, where you'll get more missions, switch modes, grab more missions and go back to Sothis. Rinse, repeat. Credits wise you'll get very little compared to some missions in the game, which can rise up to 3 million credits each. But the rank ascension will be fast.

Now my sincere apologies for exposing such vile tactics. As a matter of fact, the Fed ranks ascension can be achieved in an honest, organic and cheerful way: just do bits here and there. The Feds are wildly spread all over the bubble (it looks like, sometimes) so you can intertwine the missions with many other different activities. Right now, for example, at the Community Goal system, there's Fed presence. Every now and then Donate missions spawn there, giving fast and easy rep. When trading, pirating, returning Home from Beagle Point, smuggling, grinding Engineers, or any other activity really, just take a bit of time to do some Fed missions. Finally, this whole grind mentality might not be the best way to get enjoyment out of Elite Dangerous, which is a stunning, complex, awesome and painstaking game. After all, it doesn't matter having a Federal Corvette, if you have to get 400m more to fit it properly, grind Engineers to mod it properly, and take loads of practice from a Viper MkIII and up, to fly it properly, under the risk of throwing it away at CGs in Open because you didn't take time to learn what is Open properly.
 
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Every Mission give 1 or 2 percent of a rank.

I think having a higher rep with the station help a little but not sure.

Focus on mission for faction clearly label with the faction you want to progress.
Personally I quit data delivery for goods trading / mining / passenger transports.

Oh, and you need patience and time :x

Hope that help.
 
NLTT 21440, Delbruck Gateway or Gooch Gateway, they orbit binary ELWs in the centre of the bubble. Five Fed factions, all in boom (I've been busy). A mix of cargo/data/surface scanning/assassination/mining missions. All local (<20LY). I've got 36% through Post Commander in a couple of days.
Rank without needing exploits or mode-switching. Just hard work.
I'm at max rep with all the factions and they're paying pretty well. I can get 3m for one surface scan, for instance.
 
Focus on mission for faction clearly label with the faction you want to progress.

This is the key thing. Only missions that are for a minor faction aligned with the Federation will count towards your Fed naval rank. Any other faction's missions that you do will only generate reputation for that minor faction.

It might also be worth trying to do some 'combat' leaning missions, as these may increase your rank faster (it is after all a military rank).

At Cadet, it shouldn't take too long to see progression. Good luck.
 
NLTT 21440, Delbruck Gateway or Gooch Gateway, they orbit binary ELWs in the centre of the bubble. Five Fed factions, all in boom (I've been busy). A mix of cargo/data/surface scanning/assassination/mining missions. All local (<20LY). I've got 36% through Post Commander in a couple of days.
Rank without needing exploits or mode-switching. Just hard work.
I'm at max rep with all the factions and they're paying pretty well. I can get 3m for one surface scan, for instance.

Damn that's nice. Mod, would you consider sticking this under Guides if it gets even more answers, since we don't have an updated Rank missions guide?
 
This is the key thing. Only missions that are for a minor faction aligned with the Federation will count towards your Fed naval rank. Any other faction's missions that you do will only generate reputation for that minor faction.

It might also be worth trying to do some 'combat' leaning missions, as these may increase your rank faster (it is after all a military rank).

At Cadet, it shouldn't take too long to see progression. Good luck.

What the miltary doesn't have an ground transportation needs, only fighters, that's not fair. I hope all the pilots enjoy walking to the pubs and such.
 
o7 CMDRs, sorry for this rant / help asking. Read further at your own risk.

Man, this stuff is hardcore. Lots and lots and lots and lotsa missions all over the place. I've been mostly doing the Boom data deliveries, since they don't need cargo and give medium reputation. Still a Cadet :eek:

Do you guys know of any time efficient way of doing it? Currently using a DBX. Any faster ship, like, for docking, and does it matter?

Is it important to get higher than cordial rep level with the minor factions? Does it give higher rep missions?

There is an interesting guide thread from 2014. But it seems outdated, and got mod blocked.

Anyway, fly Dangerous!!!

The grind is very real. Just about to complete my last 1% for a Cutter and I'm sooo glad it's finally over...
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The key is finding a pair of systems that send lots of missions to each other. It seems many of them have been nerfed though lately...

It looks like Chakpa is in boom today, go there if you want Federation ranks.

I'm just finishing my Empire grind in Wu Guinagi, I can vouch for this system if you want Empire ranks, its been good.
 
Also, many people talk about Sothis or Ceos for fast Fed Rank grind. Is it considered an exploit or not?

If I went bankrupt tomorrow, Ceos/Sothis is where I'd go. It's pretty good...

Yeah some consider it an exploit, but until FD create a warmer ranking system this is what people are going to do.
 
Sothis used to be considered an exploit but that was for the long range delivery missions people used to stack.
The funny thing is fdev actually told new players to head there for the long range deliveries that paid extra credits in the welcome email lol :D

Some might consider it cheap but it's just two fed stations close to each other 300 lys or so from the next nearest station so all missions are close by :)

It's not quince lol!
 
It's not for me. I didn't do passenger missions for exploration either.
I'm a stubborn idiot

Gotta second this. I wont do things I dont particularly enjoy just for the sake of levelling Explorer / Combat. Play the game your way, if it takes a little longer to achieve your goals hey at least your having more fun.
 
It's not for me. I didn't do passenger missions for exploration either.
I'm a stubborn idiot

Actually I'm currently checking Ceos/Sothis and I don't know what's all the fuss about. Only a couple aligned factions, few ranking missions. Am I missing up on something? Anyway, will try your suggestion. Have just gained Midshipman BtW
 
It's unbalanced but not an exploit like Quince was.

Quince is still absolutely the best place to get Imperial rank for scan missions. Lebedev Installation is about the same for Feds with courier jobs, but only when it is at boom, and far less profitable.

I left both, want to keep some measurable progress before Thargoids arrive :)
 
Quince is still absolutely the best place to get Imperial rank for scan missions. Lebedev Installation is about the same for Feds with courier jobs, but only when it is at boom, and far less profitable.

I left both, want to keep some measurable progress before Thargoids arrive :)

Forgive me my ignorance, but what about the Thargoids? Should I be grinding a different stuff in order to best prepare for them?
 
Forgive me my ignorance, but what about the Thargoids? Should I be grinding a different stuff in order to best prepare for them?

I don't think anybody knows for sure (yet), but the word is current weaponry won't be much good, so at some point there will be engineers popping up with anti-thargoid weaponry technology.

No need to grind anything, but as you try out engineering you will widen the circle of engineers you can do business with.
 
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