Help understanding RES.
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Low RES, RES, and High RES will all have security forces to help out and take out pirates. Hazardous RES have no cops so you are on your own, though you can join in on other's fights.
Low RES = lower end ships only. I think the biggest ship I ever seen in one was a Clipper and Python and the highest rank NPC I came across was master (I think?). Pay will be lower for lower end ships and lower ranked pilots, but it is way safer. Then as you go from that to RES (regular) you get slightly more challenges. Then High has the bigger ship occasionally and the pilots you find are ranked higher, deadly and up with an occasional lower ranked pilot.
Ahh ok thanks.
Yep, this is correct and correlates to higher bounties being paid as well. Two easy ways to remember it: #1. They are named the same as conflict zones. High intensity is harder than low intensity. #2 Low = Low bounty, High = High bounty.
Also, the sites that are simply named "Resource Extraction Site" are actually medium and sit between High and Low.
The other thing to point out is that Resource Extraction Sites are mainly for Bounty Hunting - NOT - Mining.
If you are new to mining, or in a poorly equipped ship mine away from RES sites.
If you are new to mining, or in a poorly equipped ship mine away from RES sites.
Wrong. Resource extraction sites drop far more fragments and have far better asteroids that can also be easily revisited. They are very much for mining.
Obviously new or unprotected miners better start out mining in a safer location, but in a low RES pirates really aren't a threat if you have the largest possible shield generator and double chaff equipped. Security will take them out before they can get through any shields.
For experienced players, I agree.
But for those just starting out who think RESs are where you mine they are a trap.
This is the point I was getting across.
In my experience, you get a higher yield per hour outside of the RESs because you are not stopping to deal with NPCs every few minutes trying to take yer lucky charms. IMHO, RES mining is not worth the extra bits unless you refuse to use prospectors. I like less hassle when I am out mining, and as long as the ring is pristine and the type of stuff I'm looking for, I'll take the solitude.
There was a theory that dropping into HAZ res yielded better results for asteroids. The trick was to drop in them, but immediately boost away from the site until you were well away from the point where ships spawn, so you could mine safely.
I am not entirely sure if it matters if you drop into a res site, or just at a random spot in the ring. But I do know the best way to find Painite is to find Pristine metallic rings. Though painite is so rare, you'll be mining for HOURS just fill a relatively small sized hold. Not worth it in my opinion. Thats including bringing along limpets, obviously. One should never mine without limpets.
Not to mention, not all rings have res sites. Even if you find a Pristien Metallic, their may not be any res sites to test the theory.
I am not entirely sure if it matters if you drop into a res site, or just at a random spot in the ring. But I do know the best way to find Painite is to find Pristine metallic rings. Though painite is so rare, you'll be mining for HOURS just fill a relatively small sized hold. Not worth it in my opinion. Thats including bringing along limpets, obviously. One should never mine without limpets.
Not to mention, not all rings have res sites. Even if you find a Pristien Metallic, their may not be any res sites to test the theory.
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That is perfectly fine if you aren't capable of tanking, quickly dealing with pirates or keeping signature and range where you won't be approached. In a patrolled RES the idea is commonly to completely ignore the pirates and keep on mining while security ships take care of them. The additional yield on top of prospectors, overall higher % and ability to revisit individual asteroids is otherwise giving you much higher yields (no searching and more fragments from higher % asteroids - it's almost like buying stuff from a market
).The bonus applies only within 20 km range of any RES and when the instance is aware of where you are. Regardless of how you got there. Sometimes it's not active for some reason, which also leaves the security link for hazardous extraction sites in tact. So if you ever are in one of those with security ships, you won't have the fragment bonus.
The easiest way to find Painite is by being a fast prospector. I've once collected some data on that: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteMiners/comments/54f816/dbs_mining_statistics
Just 5 minutes to find >20% - including mining and travel time that's about 1 ton of random Painite per minute.
And extraction sites only exist in inhabited systems
So where should a new player mine then?
In the mining tutorial
Beyond that in a well shielded Sidewinder and all available locations (starting with low for extraction sites), preferably at least major resources to not drown in despair trying to refine even a single ton.
A new player mostly needs to experience all possibilities. Often even "experienced" miners have not ever set foot in or successfully mined at belt clusters or extraction sites, simply because the majority of all tutorials tells them they are worthless/too dangerous. How would you know there are pinpoint accurate, highly engaging and super efficient alternatives to random ring mining if you never try or hear about it?
Beyond that in a well shielded Sidewinder and all available locations (starting with low for extraction sites), preferably at least major resources to not drown in despair trying to refine even a single ton.
A new player mostly needs to experience all possibilities. Often even "experienced" miners have not ever set foot in or successfully mined at belt clusters or extraction sites, simply because the majority of all tutorials tells them they are worthless/too dangerous. How would you know there are pinpoint accurate, highly engaging and super efficient alternatives to random ring mining if you never try or hear about it?
The popular guide to mining advises that:
"Mine, keeping 15-20km from the center. Over 15 the NPCs won’t attack, and under 20 the mining benefits."
Have not tested this.
"Mine, keeping 15-20km from the center. Over 15 the NPCs won’t attack, and under 20 the mining benefits."
Have not tested this.
Until you have built up your experience thesis what I'd recommend for a new starting miner:
Despite their name, they are not a good place to mine (until you know what you are doing, that is).
Find a spot in the ring away from any RES sites, Supercruise into the ring slowly and you will drop into the ring. Now there's a chance that a pirate will spawn with you (can also be security or miners) If you don't have anything in your hold (limpets don't count) they will scan you and leave - you are now alone and can mine without interruption. If you have something in your hold point away from them and run at top speed, with boost until they are off your scanner, then boost a couple more times for luck - you are now alone and can mine without interruption.
Also if you have taken a contract there's risk that you will be intercepted as you take the goods back to the mission giver. The best thing to do is to win the interdiction, however if it looks like you will lose, submit (drop throttle to zero) then run, with boosting until you can jump back to SC, or jump to a new system.
(There's a lot of information on the web about mining in ED, much is written by expert miners for expert miners. Read it but be aware that they are assuming a basic knowledge of the game mechanics, and that you have a tricked out ship.)