Hey FD, how abaut i give you 20 bucks...
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Frontier could get $20 out of people by releasing a particularly fancy paint job for literally any ship. They're not desperate enough to make one of the most controversial moves open to a game dev for it.
A while back the operator of one such service posted about it here. If memory serves it was more like several hundred dollars for a billion credits.
The realisation that getting a big ship won't make the game fun if they weren't finding it fun before has got to sting after they have risked their account and spent that much.
A while back the operator of one such service posted about it here. If memory serves it was more like several hundred dollars for a billion credits.
The realisation that getting a big ship won't make the game fun if they weren't finding it fun before has got to sting after they have risked their account and spent that much.
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Do you think i wanted this to end like this?
Do you think when i first started to play Elite, i wanted to make thread like this?
This thread is ultimate spit-in-face as far FD and many die hard fans are concerned. However, i am beyond the point of caring now.
At least, i am ready to admit there is some aspects of the game i want to try, and ready to spend cash on. Normally it would be *uninstall* button.
If you know anything about marketing, you know that product has a life cycle. And i feel that FD is treating this game, with all the horse armors and ... i cant say this with straight face... laser colors, like it is nearing the end of that life cycle.
At least i am willing to pay some money to extend that life cycle.
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How it is controversial?
It is not PVP game, you are not getting advantage over other players.
If FD did this tomorrow, by your own logic, the core ED fans would still buy the horse armor and play the game, only difference is that i and people like me might also enjoy game a bit more, and maybe even buy a horse armor.
By this logic the engineers that are also behind paywall should be controversial, and no one is crying about how non horizon players cant access engineered mods.
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I've said several times in other threads that FD started treating Elite like a low-maintenance cash cow about 6 months ago when we started having all of the problems with Engineers being late, buggy and incomplete. Since then I've read FD's financial reports (which are freely available as they are a publically-traded company) and seen that they have funnelled much of Elite's revenue into Planet Coaster and have been neglecting the Elite franchise for around a year or so. As soon as the devs mentioned that Elite "might not have a Season 3" and they started selling ship colors (a single line of RBG code values) for $1.75 in the store I knew the game was going down the drain. There is nothing that will save Elite's trajectory at this point unless there is enough of a backlash about the current state of the game that Braben and the dev team finally decide to make the quality of the game a priority again and are willing to make massive changes to the game. The issue is that those changes won't be "lucrative" from a shareholder perspective as they will require re-investing quite a bit of time and resources in Elite and they have already gone into low-maintenance cash cow mode. They figured that they can make far more money by selling players trivial DLC purchases then they can with actual game content and that is why Elite is in its current state right now.
It's very sad to see a game that had so much potential end up as such a buggy, imbalanced mess but really the process started happening over a year ago and we just didn't realize it. That's what happens when games are viewed purely by their ability to make money for shareholders and unfortunately FD and Elite are no exception.
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I didn't say anybody would stop playing. While I'm definitely in the "no pay to win" camp, I didn't even really make a value judgement about it in that post. I just said it would be unbelievably controversial. Which it would be.
There have been complaints about engineers only being available to those who purchase expansion packs.
Get the Palladium, or in 200t allotments and then I'll tell you how to convert it into a ship. Very hush hush stuff. Though the game does have progressive payouts but progressive in ways you might not like (Larger ships, more dangerous ships pay more than smaller, less skilled ships
Allied factions pay you more than neutral ones too!! o.o). Also you cite numbers, prices that you won't use and thus don't need. Unless you want a 'Top of the line, end all be all ship for the sake of having it and not use its parts effectively. (Not to mention that.. likely an Engineered Python could kill you easily as engineers are largely not monetarily bribable ).Seeing as he doesn't do missions, doesn't want to do combat, only wants to sight see.. all he needs is a exploration fit Conda. Nothing more.
So... Is this a troll thread, or are you actually trying to be serious here?
Either way, the ability of humanity to repeatedly screw itself over does continually amaze me.
Or they ignore you and eventually you get off their back when the Citizen of Stars gets released in 20 years time. Win/win for everyone
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It is shame, because all they really needed to do is ask us for extra money for development cost and i am sure the die hard fans would have ponied up some half a mil in few month. SC did this on a weekly basis. And can still do if need for more monnies arises.
At least SC wont need to sellout to shareholders, because if fans want something to be added in game, all they need to do is "shut up and take my money" and it will be done. Heck, the RSI hired a code monkeys from cryteck to custom tailor the engine for their needs, that is not cheap or easy stunt to pull off.
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Wow, the hate for SC in here. You should be happy for SC success. They offer you an option to satisfy your space fever.
The issue here isn't that FD needs more money, they've already brought in something like $60 million USD of revenue from Elite so far. The issue is that they used much of it to subsidize the development of Planet Coaster. They quite simply don't want to spend any more money on Elite at this point as they can sell enough of the remaining players overpriced DLC and continue to make money for their shareholders with minimal development costs.
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Yeah, thats capitalism for you. I feel bad for the die hard space sim Devs in FD. I bet they feel like poo.
Well, there is hope that the crowdfunded model will fare better for consumer standpoint, as it is responsible only to the players. Also, Roberts is life long space autist with proven track record of good space games so i have hope.
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Well they could always sell a Python for $350 dollars and an Anaconda for $1000 and a Federal Corvette for $1500. I mean it is not unheard of selling ships for real cash, and of course that is not (never ever will it be) selling power. Nope not at all, just look at another game doing that same thing, they will say it is not selling anything close to selling power. While they are at it they could sell shields and weapons and other items for real cash (also not selling power).
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How about NO. Ya I like that word, earn what you want and go forward from there. Of course during the Kick Starter they did give some buyers in the option to get a Cobra Mark 3 so one extra ship was made available. However that ship is not very expensive in game and can be earned quickly and was a limited time offer well past now. So if someone wants to say they did sell ships (wait sorry) ship. It is true as every one will get a Sidewinder for free (lifetime insurance you understand). some as myself started in a Cobra. It is also true I worked my way from a Sidewinder to a Cobra Mark 3 in alpha and beta testing so I did earn one the way anyone new did, and it did not take to long and was fun. For the OP though no selling power please, earn what you want and you will respect it more and enjoy it as it was earned in game and not just throwing cash at the screen.
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How about NO. Ya I like that word, earn what you want and go forward from there. Of course during the Kick Starter they did give some buyers in the option to get a Cobra Mark 3 so one extra ship was made available. However that ship is not very expensive in game and can be earned quickly and was a limited time offer well past now. So if someone wants to say they did sell ships (wait sorry) ship. It is true as every one will get a Sidewinder for free (lifetime insurance you understand). some as myself started in a Cobra. It is also true I worked my way from a Sidewinder to a Cobra Mark 3 in alpha and beta testing so I did earn one the way anyone new did, and it did not take to long and was fun. For the OP though no selling power please, earn what you want and you will respect it more and enjoy it as it was earned in game and not just throwing cash at the screen.
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Well unfortunately Op is right if Fd doesn't get with the program & start cranking out what they offered in their original pitch. I.e. mulit crew options ( and NO not a fly by wires pilot that sits on his in my hangar on my Anaconda) I mean the ability to land single seat craft on your larger ships & the ability to get up & walk around the ship, I mean they already have the damn thing modeled out, fps combat,eva,ship boarding & yes planet side exploration ( also and yes I know we have the buggy ) but to be able to get up out of the thing & explore. So folks don't shoot the messenger but these are things FD/Mr. Braben sold us & they had a head start on SC & yes I play both & like both but if they (FD) don't start bringing in some money & doing what they said I am afraid I just threw $150 bucks down the rathole. So FD hope your listening because we are waiting.
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I bet that other game will have a working economy and properly scaling progression and proper player interactions.
My group i play with have few connies. But one thing you cannot buy, friends and human crew (unless you speak mandarin).
I bet FD will start selling "elite modified navy anacondas" soon enough, too.
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Oh, you spelled abaut wrongly in the thread title, it should be Abuat.
Grammar mach frei! o/
OMG I haven't laughed so hard in ages, are you serious or are you on serious drugs because I can't tell the difference right now. Again give me a call when SC comes out 100 years, if ever. You keep talking about SGI doing serious stunts in hiring this guy or that guy and looking cool and stuff. Let them do one thing, release a game, in this decade and we will talk, until then HAHAHA.
I think alot of people are focusing on what the OP said about wanting P2W.
I think the OP was really drawing attention to his opinion about the state of the game and the grind.
I somewhat agree with him, but I don't have any idea how to fix or correct those issues properly. I think FDev will fix it, or at least I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I think the OP was really drawing attention to his opinion about the state of the game and the grind.
I somewhat agree with him, but I don't have any idea how to fix or correct those issues properly. I think FDev will fix it, or at least I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Dude , i been playing the SC early versions since it first came out and the game is coming along just fine. They are handcrafting most of the things so it takes time. Elite just "LOL RNG" and procedurally generated garbage. The other day i shot down a python that was piloted by Susana Ivanovna, I almost uninstalled my game for that sacrilege.
Coolest thing i did in SC so far was snipe a vanduul from a cockpit, and commandeered the ship. Secod coolest was to hid in someones cargo hold, and then shoot him, and commandeer the ship
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