Hey Frontier .... Here's a store idea .... Remembrance Day Poppy Decals

Alien

Alien
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So here's a store idea I think needs to happen. Remembrance Day Poppy Decals

What Are They?

They are a symbol the Royal British Legion uses to raise funds. I don't know where exactly the money goes, but I hope it goes to ex-servicemen and their families.

When Are They Sold?

Usually from the middle of October until Remembrance Sunday in November, which is usually (As far as I know) the second Sunday in November.

How Would This Work In The Store?

Either only available during October, or available all year-round, you pay £1 for a poppy decal you can place on your ship.
100% of the monies for poppy decals sold goes to The Royal British Legion.
 
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Jazzy

Jazzy
I second this idea, (Have some Rep OP).

I come from a Military family in Australia, from right back from the days of WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. With many of my family serving through these conflicts and being blessed that we have only ever lost one member in Vietnam. I feel this would be a great idea to remember all of those that have served, that are serving and those that paid the ultimate sacrifice in the name of Freedom.

So let's see this happen FD. I would love to see and buy a Bobble Head Poppy, and some Ship Decal Poppies as well.
 

Gunnet

G
Brilliant idea. Remembrance poppies are also worn in Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and most likely other countries.

If it's at all possible from a technical point of view, in addition to a decal it would be great to have a poppy which could be pinned to the breast of the flight suit.
 

mojonaut

mojonaut
Jazzy said:
. I feel this would be a great idea to remember all of those that have served, that are serving and those that paid the ultimate sacrifice in the name of Freedom.
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What better way to remember the fallen than stick a symbol of remembrance in a video game who's main purpose is to kill people.

Terrible idea, if you want to support the British Legion do so directly.
 

Riverside

Riverside
mojonaut said:
if you want to support the British Legion do so directly.
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If this were to become a thing, and people bought & displayed it, I wonder if any of those people would be buying it instead of a lapel poppy? ;)


I do remember there being complaints about poppies being displayed last year in the press & I understand why a company might simply not want to go there (inaction is the path of least resistance) but personally I don't see a downside to displaying a poppy as a symbol of remembering the fallen.

Do any other games offer this? I know Minecraft traditionally changes chests to look like Christmas presents for a week or so.
 

CrowBarHero

CrowBarHero
I like the thinking behind this (I'm a Brit), and I logged on this morning to suggest similar.

However it is a bit of a legal minefield. I think the only way such a gesture would / could be morally and legally above-board would be if such a decal was either free, or proceeds from its sale go directly to the Royal British Legion.
I've no idea if there is a mechanism in place to allow this, as there is also the potential problem of gift-aid (UK taxpayers can allow the charity to claim gift-aid which is the equivalent in tax back from the government), and I'm sure there's other issues with regard to collection of money for charity.

I've no idea if the brains at FD have considered this, perhaps they have their own preferred charity - I like the idea of having paid for decals to show support for charitable causes - but this would place an administrative burden on FD regardless, their main purpose is to develop and maintain this game we're all playing, after all.

And as for Mojonaut comment - ED isn't just about blowing people's ships up - there's many other ways to conduct yourself in this environment we all share. I already support the Royal British Legion, but perhaps I'd like to wear my colours on my sleeve -err ship as well?
 

EdzUp

EdzUp
I think its a brilliant idea. FDEV would have to ask the legion for permission and negotiate the legalities and pricing etc but I cant see why not.

The only company I ever heard of getting burned by the Legion is the Cannon Fodder boys back in the Amiga days.
 

DocLooshkin

DocLooshkin
Hello, Alien. :)

As I wrote on another thread...

Hello, Fozz. :)

The last time I saw a games company attempt to use the poppy for anything resembling a marketing purpose, it didn't end well. It's been (good lord!) twenty-four years since then, but it's anyone's guess if the Royal British Legion is likely to be any less litigious. Perhaps they're a little less prejudiced now, but I wouldn't want to bet money on it.

Remembrance is a good thing for ED. Poppies, not so much.

Vizards (solicitors for the Royal British Legion) said:
Dear Sirs

The Royal British Legion/
Amiga Computer Game:
Cannon Fodder

We have been instructed by the Royal British Legion in connection with the new Amiga computer game, "Cannon Fodder", which we understand is being marketed through yourselves.

You will no doubt be aware of the advertisement for next month's AMIGA POWER Magazine which was carried in the Sunday Mirror dated 24th October 1993, together with today's article in the Daily Star.

Our clients are extremely concerned that this particular game features a Royal British Legion Poppy, the emblem of our clients' Poppy Appeal. It is an international symbol of remembrance and therefore its use for a computer war game is tasteless and grossly insensitive. Our clients find it all the more intolerable that the launch of this product coincides with the 75th anniversary of Armistice Day, which is within a few days of Remembrance Sunday.

Our clients are being advised with regard to the legal implications of the above, particularly in view of the fact that no permission was sought to use the Poppy.

The use of a Royal British Legion Poppy in this way is unlawful and inter alia defamatory. The undoubted impression conveyed to the general public is that this particular game has received the endorsement of our clients, which, being a war game, is directly contrary to the Legion's principal aims and objectives.

Our clients will only refrain from taking legal action if:-

You, the manufacturers, Amiga and all other parties involved with the ("Game" - Ed)

1. supply us with written apologies on terms acceptable to our clients;

2. provide us with written undertakings on terms that all references to Poppies in the marketing, packaging, content and all other aspects of the game will be removed forthwith;

3. the Legion is compensated in full for its legal costs and a donation is made for a sum to be agreed to this year's Poppy Appeal within the next 14 days.

Our clients will also require an undertaking from Amiga that they will omit all mention of the game in issue 32 and all future issues of "AMIGA POWER" and associated publications.

Unless the above apologies and undertakings are received by the close of business tomorrow, our clients will have little choice but to take the matter further. In the meantime, our clients strictly reserve the right to take whatever action they see fit.

Yours faithfully,

Vizards.
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The above quote is from a website discussing Amiga Power, a long-defunct computer-games magazine. I assert no knowledge of it's authenticity, but it looks to be a slightly edited copy of what I assume would be a genuine original communication.
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