HGE Respawning Explain to me like I'm an idiot

[Greybeard Seawolf]

I've never really bothered hunting HGE's because they were a pain in the rear to find and despite following all the instructions I could find I was never able to make em respawn. Today I tried again, scanned Nav Beacon, found one with 28 min left, jumped in gathered the goodies, logged out to main menu, back in supercruise and........Nothing it and all the other signals were gone. So 2 questions
A) Do HGE'S respawn after a relog

B) if so what am I doing wrong?

Cheers

 

[Maolagin]

A) Do HGE'S respawn after a relog

No. They used to respawn after a force quit to desktop (i.e. the one thing FDev considers borderline an exploit) but I think even that was fixed in Odyssey.

B) if so what am I doing wrong?

You're trying to use an exploit to farm HGEs instead of playing the game.

 

[Codger]

A) Do HGE'S respawn after a relog

B) if so what am I doing wrong?

A) No. Used to be they did if you quit to desktop. I think it was patched out, but haven't tried it recently
B) It's an exploit, so take your chances.

They are supposed to time out after a while (30 minutes I believe) and then new ones spawn in. That's how they are supposed to work, but it's rather a pain.

 

[Bigmaec]

You're trying to use an exploit to farm HGEs instead of playing the game.

this.

 

[Greybeard Seawolf]

No. They used to respawn after a force quit to desktop (i.e. the one thing FDev considers borderline an exploit) but I think even that was fixed in Odyssey.


You're trying to use an exploit to farm HGEs instead of playing the game.

Thanks for the clarification although the rest of your reply was a bit harsh given how much of the ED gameplay involves the widespread use of relogging. It's not something I like doing but given the time required to gather the same materials by "playing the game" and the lack of any other way to gather more efficiently I thought I'd give it a try

 

[Bigmaec]

Thanks for the clarification although the rest of your reply was a bit harsh given how much of the ED gameplay involves the widespread use of relogging. It's not something I like doing but given the time required to gather the same materials by "playing the game" and the lack of any other way to gather more efficiently I thought I'd give it a try

Nothing in the game involves the widespread use of relogging.
Using relogging is a shortcut/exploit and the fault lies only on the user.

 

[Greybeard Seawolf]

Nothing in the game involves the widespread use of relogging.
Using relogging is a shortcut/exploit and the fault lies only on the user.

"Fault"? Ok Thanks

 

[Elpapo]

You aint gonna be banned for this.

If anything, they might disable you from open for 3 days or week(you can still play at solo), and thats it. For this happen, you need be reported by a lot... a really lot, within short amount of time, and its needs be done in game.

There is quite few cmdrs doing much worse "exploits" than this, and I can still see some of 'em in open sometimes.

 

[[VR] Orodruin]

They used to respawn after a force quit to desktop (i.e. the one thing FDev considers borderline an exploit)

No, a forced quit (as in task kill) was never required. It was sufficient to simply exit the game to desktop normally.

 

[Maolagin]

given how much of the ED gameplay involves the widespread use of relogging

Just to be clear - FDev have repeatedly stated that "relogging" using the provided menus may be unintended gameplay, but it's allowed. So for instance they have no problem, beyond a general distaste as game designers, with relogging at Jameson's Cobra to farm data.

Using task quit, monkeying with network routing, etc to gain some advantage is where FDev draws the line and considers it exploiting. My statement was based on HGE farming requiring a forced task quit, although I do see a comment further down saying I'm wrong about that. Never tried it myself, so that could be.

 

[Episparh]

Solo mode - quit to desktop cannot be exploit. You cannot be banned for this.
If HGE were meant to not respawn, devs should fixed it if not already.

But the elephant in the room is why there are no convinient way to obtain those. Some of the G5 manufacturing mats are way to hard to find even with the so called "HGE explot". Some HGE mats are tied to rare BGS states and are overriden by more popular.

And no, cross trading is not convinient way at this exchange rate.

 

[Greybeard Seawolf]

Thanks for that clarification, I have never nor would ever use an illegal exploit in the game. When I started playing ED, for lack of in game information I turned to YouTube to learn and there were/are dozens of tutorials showing player how to relog to farm/gather materials, FDev as you say know about and choose to allow it because if they stopped it the grind would indeed grind to a halt and they would then have to do something about it. I love this game having playing since the 80's, and luckily I also managed to avoid becoming judgemental of how others play it

 

[Frankymole]

I've never really bothered hunting HGE's because they were a pain in the rear to find and despite following all the instructions I could find I was never able to make em respawn. Today I tried again, scanned Nav Beacon, found one with 28 min left, jumped in gathered the goodies, logged out to main menu, back in supercruise and........Nothing it and all the other signals were gone. So 2 questions
A) Do HGE'S respawn after a relog

B) if so what am I doing wrong?

Cheers

There is a method, but you have to activate Supercruise whilst at 0 velocity when you respawn. When it is charged, boost - do not increase your throttle, the boost takes you to SC speed and the High Grade Emission should still be there.

 

[Fr33k]

I know it's not your questions, but if you are trying to use HGE for collecting high grade manufacturing materials, I used to use the relogging thing you tried, but these days I go to High Res sites (not haz res) in a combat ship loaded with collector limpets.

If you've not done this before, it is 'relatively' safe (as long as you don't take or collect any cargo) and you don't need anything particularly special. I used to use a Krait MkII, though these days it's the corvette, only cause I can. Head to high res site, then follow the cops and help blast any wanted targets and let the collectors do their thing (the more you can spawn the better really). I know it won't be many high grades mats (though some), but you'll collect a lot of stuff, quite quickly if your lucky and RNG is with you. It's more fun (or mabye it's just me who like to see things go boom) and you earn extra credits. Just make sure you get a least a couple of shots on the bad guy befor ethey die. If things dry up, leave, head a couple of Mm away then head back.

I know this might not help much if you are looking for something specific G5 right now, but I have got into a routine of doing this now and again to stay topped up even if I don't need to, then mat trade to whatever I need.

Still, hope it helps, and whatever you do, happy hunting CMDR.

 

[Greybeard Seawolf]

I know it's not your questions, but if you are trying to use HGE for collecting high grade manufacturing materials, I used to use the relogging thing you tried, but these days I go to High Res sites (not haz res) in a combat ship loaded with collector limpets.

If you've not done this before, it is 'relatively' safe (as long as you don't take or collect any cargo) and you don't need anything particularly special. I used to use a Krait MkII, though these days it's the corvette, only cause I can. Head to high res site, then follow the cops and help blast any wanted targets and let the collectors do their thing (the more you can spawn the better really). I know it won't be many high grades mats (though some), but you'll collect a lot of stuff, quite quickly if your lucky and RNG is with you. It's more fun (or mabye it's just me who like to see things go boom) and you earn extra credits. Just make sure you get a least a couple of shots on the bad guy befor ethey die. If things dry up, leave, head a couple of Mm away then head back.

I know this might not help much if you are looking for something specific G5 right now, but I have got into a routine of doing this now and again to stay topped up even if I don't need to, then mat trade to whatever I need.

Still, hope it helps, and whatever you do, happy hunting CMDR.

Thanks for the replay CMDR, I haven't tried that, most of the time I take massacre missions at a compromised nav beacon with my GatherConda and 224 Limpets and that does me but it was the higher grade mats I was after in this case

 

[SlickPBW]

And then there’s the need to relog in to make certain aspects of the game work. I’m sure those aren’t intended. Examples:

getting some engineers to show up as unlocked

clearing a galaxy wide bounty

etc.


But that’s possibly another thread…

 

[cmdr chequers]

I've never really bothered hunting HGE's because they were a pain in the rear to find and despite following all the instructions I could find I was never able to make em respawn. Today I tried again, scanned Nav Beacon, found one with 28 min left, jumped in gathered the goodies, logged out to main menu, back in supercruise and........Nothing it and all the other signals were gone. So 2 questions
A) Do HGE'S respawn after a relog

B) if so what am I doing wrong?

Cheers

B) you are cheating the game and yourself, there is no end game so why the rush ?

 

[SteveWW57]

I know it's not your questions, but if you are trying to use HGE for collecting high grade manufacturing materials, I used to use the relogging thing you tried, but these days I go to High Res sites (not haz res) in a combat ship loaded with collector limpets.

If you've not done this before, it is 'relatively' safe (as long as you don't take or collect any cargo) and you don't need anything particularly special. I used to use a Krait MkII, though these days it's the corvette, only cause I can. Head to high res site, then follow the cops and help blast any wanted targets and let the collectors do their thing (the more you can spawn the better really). I know it won't be many high grades mats (though some), but you'll collect a lot of stuff, quite quickly if your lucky and RNG is with you. It's more fun (or mabye it's just me who like to see things go boom) and you earn extra credits. Just make sure you get a least a couple of shots on the bad guy befor ethey die. If things dry up, leave, head a couple of Mm away then head back.

A twist for this method of manufactured materials farming, is to equip a Keelback or Krait II with a fighter hanger, fighters and hire the cheapest NPC you can to pilot the fighters. You can go bounty hunting and unleash the fighter to attack the target to get the credit for the kill whilst remaining several KM from the action. Then you can swoop in and let your limpets collect materials (but not cargo). Even better, is that you can provoke a fight from a distance. Very often the security force ships will follow a wanted ship around with no hostility. So long you have scanned the criminal ship, set the fighter to attack your target, and the security force ships will immediately engage the target. Different ships will drop different materials.

Steve 07.

 

[Greybeard Seawolf]

B) you are cheating the game and yourself, there is no end game so why the rush ?

Thanks for your input, my question has already been answered by a couple of people without judgement. I didn't know that I was supposed to play my game the way you and others on here think I should. My bad, lesson learned. I'll go take a long hard look at myself in the mirror before going back to playing the way I choose. Seeing the way straightforward questions like this are answered on here has cured me of asking anymore for a while so I'll go back to lurking and giving hopefully non judgemental answers on other posts

 

[Jmanis]

They are supposed to time out after a while (30 minutes I believe) and then new ones spawn in. That's how they are supposed to work, but it's rather a pain.

They're also supposed to despawn after entry. HGE's aren't the only one this happens to, it's just the only one people care about.

Thanks for your input, my question has already been answered by a couple of people without judgement. I didn't know that I was supposed to play my game the way you and others on here think I should.

Nobody here telling you the way they think you should play, just people telling you that FD considers it an exploit (and therefore against the rules)... though granted it's not one they can easily enforce, so they can't really stop anyone doing it or penalise them doing so.

Though I'd add, any "guide" telling you relogging is the best way to get materials, is wrong.