High Grade Emissions spawn rate?

[Oytis57]

I know. But then it's part of the backwardness of the engineering materials system and the reason why if you want to do serious engineering you just use the efficient farm methods for high tiers and convert.

Because the common stuff isn't common, in fact some of it it's basically nonexistent in most gameplay loops.

Yeah i agree,lot of work they should do but...they simply won't.

 

[bootsam]

Where exactly? Body kind et cetera...I'm curious and willing to make a focused search for it.

I always search those bodies where arsenic is highest. 2.6 to 2.9% from memory. I vaguely recall bookmarking a selenium place on my galmap. I'd need to check when i fire up ED, but I may be recalling incorrectly and mistaking the bookmark for something else. Also, the plumes nr miai dont they offer Selenium too, I have another vague recollection. Sorry about my vagueness but Ive returned from an 18mnth layoff.

Oh and @Northpin I just returned from Colonia. Doddle, a cuppla hour or so neutroning it. Its no big deal being 20k. It never changes and it is consistent.

 

[C64Fan]

And that is bad thing. It is very well known fact that ED does not respect players time. I am under full lock down ATM, I have a time to play, but when all this will pass, ED will drop to the very end of my priority list. And I suspect I wont be the only one here...

And that’s how it should be when you don’t have the necessary time for it. ED is not a casual game - and never has been. I love that about ED. You can sink weeks and weeks in pure playtime into it, and there’s still so much more to do and to discover.

 

[bootsam]

If it catered for the more casual gamer as well as the more timerich, then perhaps the playerbase would be greater. As it is I decide whether i play BFV for an hour or so or spend a fruitless hour or so chasing unicorns in ED. That is a failing by FD. They lose both revenue and continuity. They will end up with an aged and dwindling playerbase...oh...wait.

 

[Mrc_NorthEast]

Thx for all who put so much info in this thread. Alot of this stuff I have not heard yet. More things to go try out when I have time.

 

[Northpin]

Pharmaceutical Isolators, oh dear they are for sure bugged.

Selenium can't find that anywhere either.

The good old working as intended hangs over as always despite years yeh YEARS of non spawning mats...

As been nicely explained by @Red Anders things are a bit more complicated than they appear.
Pharma Isolators, Improvised components and Military Supercapactors are the rarest of the rare.
So to increase your chance to find Pharma Isolators, for example, you need to check Inara for:

• systems with factions in outbreak (searching the galmap for systems in outbreak will have a much lower chance to get any PI, really low actually)
• then check those systems to make sure the faction in outbreak does not have any other states (it will greatly decrease the chance to generate HGE with PI)
• then make sure there are no other factions with states generating high quantity of HGE (especially Boom, Investment, Expansion) - unless you want to go the trade route
• then make sure it's a single star system or a close multi-star-system, else you might have to travel 50,000-100,000 or ever more LS, and you might miss them or worse
• make sure it's an Alliance/Independent system - else it will have the chance to spawn Core Dynamics or Imperial shielding (less chances, but still) instead of PI
• and dont forget they are really rare. So even with all above, you might still not get any...

For Selenium, again an external tool is the savior. It will list the planets with the right combination of materials for a greatly increased chance to find Selenium
And why is Selenium rare?
Because it's treated as a tier2 (G2) material instead of a pure Tier4 (G4) and so it has no Crystalline Shards and it pops in bio/geo sites rather differently then the rest of G4 materials.
Each geo/bio site will have a list of spawns composed of 1x G4, 2xG3, 3x G2 and (most od the time) all G1materials. Also a specific number of spawns with G2 materials.
IF the Selenium percentage is equally to the other 2 materials from the same tier, then most probably from 6 spawns you will get 2 selenium (actually 6 since each collected piece is worth 3 materials)
What the site mentioned above does, is to select the planetary bodies with a higher percentage of selenium than the other 2 G2 materials, so you'll get more selenium than the other 2 G2 materials.

So lets look at the system below:
Se Share means that Selenium holds almost 66% of the combined G2 materials. So out of 6 G2 spawns, you will have a chance to get 4x Selenium, 1 Arsenic, 1 Zirconiiu
So it's a damn good planet, not only because it has lots of Selenium, but because you can get Arsenium aaaand Tin which is the G3 material in the same line with Selenium

The bad about the above system? really low gravity and geysers... so you will chase those fly high materials a lot... and dont even try to see what a geyser might do to your srv (hint: i can see my house from here...)

But they aren't rare.

You know what's rare? Some of the G1 mats. Some of the G1 mats barely spawn at all.

Different G1 materials spawn in different places from different ship types (if we talk about Manufactured). SO if you stay only in a CNB, you'll miss some types of materials.
Lucky enough, traders have decent rates when you trade down.

 

[Red Anders]

@Northpin Thanks for picking up the Selenium half of that one, as well as fleshing out the explanation of PI HGEs with the detail that I skimmed over - as you might have guessed I also knew the reason why selenium has issues, but I just didn't have the time to add it to my earlier post because I had some phone calls to make More people understanding why these things are less common is the key to it because as you say, it's not as simple as just 'it's bugged' or 'it's stupid' or 'it's crap'.