General / Off-Topic Hilarious counter to youth bemoaning the elder generations re climate change

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WeComeInPeace

WeComeInPeace
jasonbarron said:
I hope for your sake that you're just obfuscating my point as opposed to the alternative. No, that's not why I feel sorry for Greta; I feel sorry for Greta because she's being manipulated, twisted prostituted and set on a path she'll NEVER be able to step away from, even if she develops enough maturity to see what's happening some day and come to a different conclusion in her mind. Her parents (and "supporters") should be caned for child abuse.
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Well, it doesn't come as much of a surprise to me that you know about obfuscation, since that seems pretty much the idea behind this whole thread. Let's continue the debate when you have seen the video :) (Said in a friendly tone)
 

Stigbob

Stigbob
Mole HD said:
The only light polution we have where I live is this kinda stuff blocking all the stars out ;)

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Lovely. As soon as I can persuade Mrs Stigbob to join the working from home brigade we'll be relocating back North, very North indeed as North as possible. Orkney if I can push her that far.
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
jasonbarron said:
I'm not denigrating Greta at all; I feel sorry for her. I'm denigrating her parents and anybody else of a like mind for using her in a cynical, cowardly fashion.
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For my part, I find it remarkable that her parents have allowed Greta to be the spokesperson of a whole generation.
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
jasonbarron said:
I hope for your sake that you're just obfuscating my point as opposed to the alternative. No, that's not why I feel sorry for Greta; I feel sorry for Greta because she's being manipulated, twisted prostituted and set on a path she'll NEVER be able to step away from, even if she develops enough maturity to see what's happening some day and come to a different conclusion in her mind. Her parents (and "supporters") should be caned for child abuse.
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You’re kidding, in 20, 30 years, looking at the state of the planet, she’ll think, "My parents were visionaries. They deserve all my respect."
 

jasonbarron

jasonbarron
Patrick_68000 said:
Apparently millions of people do not think like you.

For my part, I think that parents who poison the future of their children by transporting them in large polluting SUVs, should be caned for child abuse.
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Millions of people are more than happy to use a troubled teen girl with Asperger's to advance their political agenda with no regard for her childhood innocence, while the other demographic is trying to safely get their children from point A to point B. Nice to know which side of the aisle you're on, Patrick:)

Oh, and I wanted to thank you for confirming my point with your post #85 about her parents putting the idea(s) in her head.
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
jasonbarron said:
Oh, and I wanted to thank you for confirming my point with your post #85 about her parents putting the idea(s) in her head.
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You misinterpreted Jason.

I said that Greta would be grateful to her parents for giving her the freedom to express herself. In no way to have her put the idea(s) in her head.

Thousands of scientists have demonstrated the realities of the problems. No need for parents to convince her.

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Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
jasonbarron said:
Millions of people are more than happy to use a troubled teen girl with Asperger's to advance their political agenda with no regard for her childhood innocence, while the other demographic is trying to safely get their children from point A to point B. Nice to know which side of the aisle you're on, Patrick:)
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To safety get children from point A to point B, you do not need a big polluting SUV

I was transported by my parents and then all my life without a polluting SUV and I'm still here, in perfect health and without physical disability.

It's well known, people locked in their big rolling bunker, become paranoid and imagine the worst outside of their elevated metal box.

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yianniv

yianniv
Leper Messiah said:
Doing the rounds on FB and is a rather funny hit back at the hypocrisy of the youth IMO.

"After our daughter of fifteen years of age was moved to tears by the speech of Greta Thunberg at the UN the other day, she became angry with our generation “who had been doing nothing for thirty years.”

So, we decided to help her prevent what the girl on TV announced of “massive eradication and the disappearance of entire ecosystems.”

We are now committed to give our daughter a future again, by doing our part to help cool the planet four degrees. From now on she will go to school on a bicycle, because driving her by car costs fuel, and fuel puts emissions into the atmosphere. Of course it will be winter soon and then she will want to go by bus, but only as long as it is a diesel bus. Somehow, that does not seem to be conducive to ‘helping the Climate’. Of course, she is now asking for an electric bicycle, but we have shown her the devastation caused to the areas of the planet as a result of mining for the extraction of Lithium and other minerals used to make batteries for electric bicycles, so she will be pedaling, or walking. Which will not harm her, or the planet. We used to cycle and walk to school too.

Since the girl on TV demanded “we need to get rid of our dependency on fossil fuels” and our daughter agreed with her, we have disconnected the heat vent in her room. The temperature is now dropping to twelve degrees in the evening, and will drop below freezing in the winter, we have promised to buy her an extra sweater, hat, tights, gloves and a blanket.
For the same reason we have decided that from now on she only takes a cold shower. She will wash her clothes by hand, with a wooden washboard, because the washing machine is simply a power consumer and since the dryer uses natural gas, she will hang her clothes on the clothes line to dry.

Speaking of clothes, the ones that she currently has are all synthetic, so made from petroleum. Therefore on Monday, we will bring all her designer clothing to the secondhand shop.
We have found an eco store where the only clothing they sell is made from undyed and unbleached linen, wool and jute. It shouldn’t matter that it looks good on her, or that she is going to be laughed at, dressing in colorless, bland clothes and without a wireless bra, but that is the price she has to pay for the benefit of The Climate. Cotton is out of the question, as it comes from distant lands and pesticides are used for it. Very bad for the environment.

We just saw on her Instagram that she’s pretty angry with us. This was not our intention. From now on, at 7 p.m. we will turn off the WiFi and we will only switch it on again the next day after dinner for two hours. In this way we will save on electricity, so she is not bothered by electro-stress and will be totally isolated from the outside world. This way, she can concentrate solely on her homework. At eleven o’clock in the evening we will pull the breaker to shut the power off to her room, so she knows that dark is really dark. That will save a lot of CO2.

She will no longer be participating in winter sports to ski lodges and resorts, nor will she be going on anymore vacations with us, because our vacation destinations are practically inaccessible by bicycle. Since our daughter fully agrees with the girl on TV that the CO2 emissions and footprints of her great-grandparents are to blame for ‘killing our planet’, what all this simply means, is that she also has to live like her great-grandparents and they never had a holiday, a car or even a bicycle.

We haven’t talked about the carbon footprint of food yet. Zero CO2 footprint means no meat, no fish and no poultry, but also no meat substitutes that are based on soy (after all, that grows in farmers fields, that use machinery to harvest the beans, trucks to transport to the processing plants, where more energy is used, then trucked to the packaging/canning plants, and trucked once again to the stores) and also no imported food, because that has a negative ecological effect. And absolutely no chocolate from Africa, no coffee from South America and no tea from Asia. Only homegrown potatoes, vegetables and fruit that have been grown in local cold soil, because greenhouses run on boilers, piped in CO2 and artificial light. Apparently, these things are also bad for The Climate. We will teach her how to grow her own food.

Bread is still possible, but butter, milk, cheese and yogurt, cottage cheese and cream come from cows and they emit CO2. No more margarine and no oils will be used for the frying pan, because that fat is palm oil from plantations in Borneo where rain forests first grew. No ice cream in the summer. No soft drinks and no energy drinks, as the bubbles are CO2. She wanted to lose some pounds, well, this will help her achieve that goal too.

We will also ban all plastic, because it comes from chemical factories. Everything made of steel and aluminum must also be removed. Have you ever seen the amount of energy a blast furnace consumes or an aluminum smelter? Uber bad for the climate! We will replace her 9600 coil, memory foam pillow top mattress, with a jute bag filled with straw,with a horse hair pillow.
And finally, she will no longer be using makeup, soap, shampoo, cream, lotion, conditioner, toothpaste and medication. Her sanitary napkins will be replaced with pads made of linen, that she can wash by hand, with her wooden washboard, just like her female ancestors did before climate change made her angry at us for destroying her future. In this way we will help her to do her part to prevent mass extinction, water levels rising and the disappearance of entire ecosystems. If she truly believes she wants to walk the talk of the girl on TV, she will gladly accept and happily embrace her new way of life."

(Harry Enfield's Old Git)..."neayh....Bloody young'uns"
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That was priceless!! Thanks, I have to show it to my daughter!!!!!
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Para Handy

Para Handy
Patrick_68000 said:
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I said that Greta would be grateful to her parents for giving her the freedom to express herself. .....
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Slightly off topic, did you know her mother is the mezzo-soprano Malena Ernman who was also Sweden's 2009 Eurovision entry?


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BTW - I can't believe that some people on this thread actually like the content of the OP, which is quite simply a parade of pathetic reductio ad absurdum.
 
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WeComeInPeace

WeComeInPeace
jasonbarron said:
I hope for your sake that you're just obfuscating my point as opposed to the alternative. No, that's not why I feel sorry for Greta; I feel sorry for Greta because she's being manipulated, twisted prostituted and set on a path she'll NEVER be able to step away from, even if she develops enough maturity to see what's happening some day and come to a different conclusion in her mind. Her parents (and "supporters") should be caned for child abuse.
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Ok, so you say you saw the video. In that video a respected bona fide scientist from a respected university decided to figure out how the DSM came to be, given that there were so many diagnoses in the manual, but only a handful that had a physiological explanation. He tried to approach the people behind the first DSM with an investigative angle, but that wasn't necessary. The people who spoke with happily agreed that most of the diagnoses were "sketches" based on a group of psychiatrists sitting down and voting on what they considered normal behavior. Not very scientific. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but don't derail from the subject.

One of the many attempts to "shoot the messenger" when it comes to Greta is that she has Asperger, insinuating she's a "wacko". First of all Asperger is one of the countless diagnoses without any proven physiological grounding, and it's not that people haven't searched high and low in the genes atc. Secondly, that is a typical rhetoric trick. Try to discredit the messenger if you want to spin away from the message. As long as nobody argues against her fear, this thread basically is a bunch of grownups bashing a child, and that upsets me slightly.
 

jasonbarron

jasonbarron
WeComeInPeace said:
Ok, so you say you saw the video. In that video a respected bona fide scientist from a respected university decided to figure out how the DSM came to be, given that there were so many diagnoses in the manual, but only a handful that had a physiological explanation. He tried to approach the people behind the first DSM with an investigative angle, but that wasn't necessary. The people who spoke with happily agreed that most of the diagnoses were "sketches" based on a group of psychiatrists sitting down and voting on what they considered normal behavior. Not very scientific. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but don't derail from the subject.

One of the many attempts to "shoot the messenger" when it comes to Greta is that she has Asperger, insinuating she's a "wacko". First of all Asperger is one of the countless diagnoses without any proven physiological grounding, and it's not that people haven't searched high and low in the genes atc. Secondly, that is a typical rhetoric trick. Try to discredit the messenger if you want to spin away from the message. As long as nobody argues against her fear, this thread basically is a bunch of grownups bashing a child, and that upsets me slightly.
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You're talking about something that didn't happen. Nobody is trying to "discredit" Greta because she suffers from Asperger, it's simply referenced out of pity or compassion, because it's bad enough being a hormonal, mixed up teenager without adding some other factors to the equation. I don't give a hoot about her message, like all teenagers the world over she knows less than nothing about anything. I don't have to discredit her message, the fact that she's a kid automatically disqualifies her to any sane, rational human being that's ever met a kid before. The reason she comes up, and this has been told to you so many times I've lost count, is that I think it's obscene for the adults in her life to use her as a puppet for their profit. Having to explain this to you over and over is starting to get weird, so please just give me a break for the rest of the day.
 
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