yes, and then nothing for I, II, III, IV, V, except the pleasure of the triple scans
Holy moly at the exobio pay increase!
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Not for me, I love it. I would however like the planets and bodies to be more active, storms, methane rain etc, with a warning to return to ship just to add an element of danger to spice things up a little.
i could do exobiology with a real VR view (no need for vr controler support)
i can't understand why we can't have the same freelook mode as the one in ships ou srv, what makes it so difficult ?
maybe their only VR programmer has left and there is nobody left able to adapt this code....
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Genuinely great idea. I love it... Though, no clouds that I'm aware of. Let's hope!
So, after having whisked 2 or 3 plants with my portable spinner at EDO start back in Mat '21, I decided that - pay is not important, however my contribution to science is paramount: "Your local kitchen store needs YOU (pointy finger) to use your portable whisks forz manatees!" Perhaps that should be Humanatees. I am not sure, I returned with a severe bout of space exploration madness.
My (personal) verdict (after having returned the blender with my original receipt):
* I gave it a 1 because if you put some tape round the trigger in a saucepan of milk on a stove, you (read: my wife) can make some awesome cheese. That's all it's good for.
My (personal) verdict (after having returned the blender with my original receipt):
- The maximum payout I got was 54M Cr;
- Finding enough BIO signals between systems and the time to jump, scan and land wasn't massive - however, that starts to whittle down the average payout - some systems are empty of sources, some have a few and even less have lots;
- I found that, on average, once you rinse out any shock factors of "I just earned xM Cr!", doesn't appear much different, at best, to mining profits.
- It's utterly, utterly, mind-numbingly DULL. I HATE it. My experiments are over and my review for the Dulux Deulux Kitchen 'Spicer' Husband + Wife Pleaser Whisker Frisker will be a 1 out of 5 on the customer review page*.
* I gave it a 1 because if you put some tape round the trigger in a saucepan of milk on a stove, you (read: my wife) can make some awesome cheese. That's all it's good for.
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Do you enjoy pew-pewing rocks?
Exploit how? How should a player have any idea what the "developers planned"?
I usually go on the premise that a professional company tests the changes they make to a game prior to implementation. Not like the game somehow just magically put in the math equations on it's own.
They buffed Exploration years ago, two weeks after I grinded to Elite. You won't find any posts by me crying about it. I was glad that newer players to the game were better compensated for their time. EXO was so tedious before I could barely stand it to get the vanilla Elite.
If it was an Exploit FDEV would have made an immediate post stating so. They did not. Would be best if you don't accuse players of exploiting without sufficient evidence or backing. Just my opinion.
Exactly. FD said they were buffing the payouts. They buffed them. There's evidence of a bug which makes you get less than you should, but that's the only suggestion of unintended behaviour
The fact that some players don't like the payouts doesn't mean there's any exploit involved.
If FD change their minds again this might turn out to be a short-lived gold rush, like void opals, Electra deliveries, etc. Make the most of it while it lasts.
Frontier has not given a separate announcement about it, but in this post Sally says the payouts were not multiplied correctly:
Post in thread 'Update 14 is now available for Elite Dangerous Live (4.0) | Important release information'
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...tant-release-information.610999/post-10012417
They actually didn’t say how much they were going to increase the base payouts. At some point I had started to think they were going to be doubled, but I cannot find such information anymore. But in this post Sally says, in my understanding, that the developers are aware of the need to do correcting of the payout sums:
Post in thread 'Holy moly at the exobio pay increase!'
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/holy-moly-at-the-exobio-pay-increase.611019/post-10012482
Also, the unreasonably quick rank progression shows that the payouts are not what the developers had planned.
I also noticed that the base payment for Stratum Tectonicas is now 2ˆ24 - 1, which in binary format is 111111111111111111111111, which hints at an integer overflow somewhere.
I'm confused by this now.
Handed in 3 samples (which kicked me up to Collector rank) and from the game and the journal I was given these figures:
Sample 1 : 1725400cr
Discovery bonus: 6901600cr
Sample 2 : 1956100cr
Discovery bonus: 7824400cr
Sample 3 : 1956100cr
Discovery bonus: 7824400cr
Total Amount: 28,188,000 cr
However, my balance only went up by about 12 million cr
Thought it was a hell of a lot for three samples...and so, apparently, did the game, and short changed me.
Handed in 3 samples (which kicked me up to Collector rank) and from the game and the journal I was given these figures:
Sample 1 : 1725400cr
Discovery bonus: 6901600cr
Sample 2 : 1956100cr
Discovery bonus: 7824400cr
Sample 3 : 1956100cr
Discovery bonus: 7824400cr
Total Amount: 28,188,000 cr
However, my balance only went up by about 12 million cr
Thought it was a hell of a lot for three samples...and so, apparently, did the game, and short changed me.
I suspect that we've only got thin atmospheres to justify not having to do such things (as well as surface liquid), although they go higher pressure than Mars's atmosphere and that noticeably has planet-wide dust storms from time to time.
Do you understand that "storms" do not happen just ? Need some conditions met like rotation axis angle, star activity etc, etc.
I predict a lot of cries about storms too if they add it because it was not "time-to-time" during last 10 mins of observations
.Of course I understand that storms don't just happen. Why are you asking me that? Where did I suggest or imply that they do?Do you understand that "storms" do not happen just ? Need some conditions met like rotation axis angle, star activity etc, etc.
I predict a lot of cries about storms too if they add it because it was not "time-to-time" during last 10 mins of observations
Just asking ... because we already had at least 10 topics here year ago "there are no gasers!!!!!"
- when FDevs replaced random events by calculated ones.It was a bit of a weird non-sequitor.
Anyway that's why we've not got that stuff, because it would be a lot of work, they'd need a whole planet-wide dynamic weather model. Add in needing to get rivers, seas, lakes right if there's liquid (seas are easy enough but proper rivers rather less so for an on-the-fly procedural generation system) and I'm not expecting any of this soon. Also FDev being FDev we'll probably get "where's the gameplay?" as an excuse to ignore it.
@sallymorganmoore
I think I figured. GUI shows x5 discovery bonus but it adds 1/5th in fact
At least that looks like +/- so for me.
So 13 mils payment, gui shows 65mil bonus but it adds 2-3 mils in fact over that 13.
So to be clear:
GUI shows: payment + 5 x payment
Adds to balance: payment + payment / 5
I think I figured. GUI shows x5 discovery bonus but it adds 1/5th in fact
At least that looks like +/- so for me.
So 13 mils payment, gui shows 65mil bonus but it adds 2-3 mils in fact over that 13.
So to be clear:
GUI shows: payment + 5 x payment
Adds to balance: payment + payment / 5
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Yes, we need everything to be simulated accurately, in your opinion and I presume you are perfectly happy with traveling 100s of times the speed of light.Do you understand that "storms" do not happen just ? Need some conditions met like rotation axis angle, star activity etc, etc.
I predict a lot of cries about storms too if they add it because it was not "time-to-time" during last 10 mins of observations
Yes, current researching show that Albukere engine should be possible. So why not ? That is exact engine we use in game.
I spent about three hours flying, walking and driving across a planet last night, with, apparently 1 biological on it. Didn't see a thing. I tried both "biomes" indicated by blue and slightly darker blue on the surface scanner, looked at mountains, valleys, borders between, around settlements, dark side and light, etc. but no sign of anything. I guess it's just rare there and there's nothing else to do but try a different planet?
If there's only one biological, it'll be bacteria which can be hard to spot on some surfaces. Better to go somewhere with more than one plant type.
Bacteria appear as a flat roughly circular patch. Night vision won't outline it. The best chance of spotting them is on a red surface, when they look somewhat like cow pads from the air.