So go jungle law ? Nice mindset
Horizons and Base Game 4.0 first impressions
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No need. They have banned a grand total of 0 Ody players who dared to commit the heinous crime of launching Hor4. Why would they have banned anyone? What harm can Ody players in Hor4 possibly do?
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I'll continue to advocate for choice, rather than limitation of it.
Odyssey owners aren't getting "free" or "additional" entitlement by requesting access to Horizons 4.0 - much rather, they are self-limiting access to additional content they've already paid for. As a VR user, I'd love to have the choice of meaningful QoL updates (e.g., search box in Galaxy Map, etc.) without "space legs" content until such time they've made said content viable for VR users without a "fake pancake" screen to interact with.
Nope.
As Bruce was pointing out, you cannot buy Horizons 4.0.
So under no circumstances you can say "i've already payed for it"
You (and I, 3 times already)* have payed for Horizons 3.8 and then for Odyssey.
While i'm in no way objecting for us, Odyssey owners, getting access to Horizons 4.0, FDev made it clear we're not getting it (at least this is the current status, which status may change in the future)
( actually only twice, the epic account, horizons enabled, was free
)I actually own a copy of ED on Epic Games, and I've never played itNope.
As Bruce was pointing out, you cannot buy Horizons 4.0.
So under no circumstances you can say "i've already payed for it"
You (and I, 3 times already)* have payed for Horizons 3.8 and then for Odyssey.
While i'm in no way objecting for us, Odyssey owners, getting access to Horizons 4.0, FDev made it clear we're not getting it (at least this is the current status, which status may change in the future)
( actually only twice, the epic account, horizons enabled, was free
Perhaps my only recourse here is to play that account instead and avoid any future purchases with Frontier and may even go as far as to recommend to anyone else I come across to do the same.
After my many years of experience with Frontier as a customer, I'd have to say I'm rather disappointed if that's their "official" stance.
It's all hypothetical anyway. It is very unlikely that anyone will be banned for launching H4.0. But Frontier has every right to tell people they aren't allowed to launch H4.0. As long as only a start parameter is involved I would say there is not much they could (remember, hypothetically) do against it, but if they remove that option and you find another way things might be different (again, hypothetically). Until then there is not much point in threatening Frontier to boycott them and it would be a strange thing to do anyway, if someone sucks so much that I boycott them I surely wouldn't play their game (hypothetically).So go jungle law ? Nice mindset
Sure. That's a great perspective... Hypothetically.
Until you realize you're trying to also play with your significant other who only has Horizons (which Odyssey owners can't do), and with the way they're handling VR with Odyssey leaves a bad taste in your mouth regarding upgrading their copy.
If my significant other wanted to play a game with me I would... well... just buy it for her?
Tomorrow morning I'll buy her lillies. I am pretty sure they'll cost more than Odyssey.
If you're not convinced of the quality of the product because you've experienced it, why would you buy it again?
If I wouldn't like the product I would play something else.
And if I only like the old version of the product I would play the old version of the product as long as it is available.
Good on you.
I remember when this thread used to be on topic.
Kinda funny when Hor. 4.0 adds all the things ppl apparently don't like... but ppl must have it.It's always the EDH4.0 defenders who derail their own threads
Anything for an argument or just to throw muck at the game.
It's been like this for years.
That appears to be the MO on every game related forum I've been on...
Seems that players just buy games they hate.
If I don't like a game, I don't play it, nor do I go to their forum to berate it, its developers or the players who remain... Maybe I'm a terrible gamer?
there is still time.
how long did it took them to punish the engineering exploit abusers 5 years ago?
anyway, hopefully it wont get there.
(There is also a chance they will not bother to punish the offenders as long the phenomenon is limited to a very very low number of commanders and no one is reporting the offenders. However, and this can be properly tested, if an EDO ganker starts to maul people in H40 and one of those people is reporting the said ganker that he should not be able to gank them in H40... the said ganker might take a week break from the game, if not longer)
if you're not convinced with the quality of the product... why you're using it?
So... you dont like FDev's stance on VR in Odyssey.
So you dont let your significant other to buy Odyssey nor you buy it for them?
While you want to play with your significant other, in Horizons 4.0, which is running the same engine you hate in Odyssey?
How is the conversation going?
- Wow, H40, looks really nice. I like it
- No! you dont want Odyseey, it's a bad product
- Is it? but i like H40, i'm sure i will like Odyssey too. Plus we can play together again
- No No, Odyssey is bad! We dont buy Odyssey for you.
In the end it's quite obvious that, in many cases, all this stance regarding Odyssey players not having access to H40 is just sore bitterness from disgruntled players.
Like they were staying in 3.8 and badmouthing Odyssey to 3.8 players so they dont upgrade.
But now some 3.8 players moved to H40 and they cannot follow to keep badmouthing Odyssey and try to prevent the said people to get Odyssey
And when you think all this could have been a non issue if FDev added Panther Clipper to Odyssey only (and also a couple or more Odyssey only ships)
What were they thinking
Actually I had already bought Horizons for them in the past.
I had already upgraded to Odyssey, and found the lack of support for VR... lacking.
As I don't have an alternative to using a subpar client (3.8) for playing together, the only alternative is to use another account that doesn't own Odyssey.
I'm surprised to see all this defense to an indefensible position... forcing customers to upgrade to Odyssey in order to play with others instead of offering those who've already paid for Odyssey to be able to do so with Horizons customers, or shoehorning them into an older client without upgrades? Is this really the "argument", here?
Oh, and for the record, I've personally never "badmouthed" Horizons 3.8- so I'm not sure what (or who) that reference is for recently. And if anything I've sung praise regarding the updates to graphics and UI for Odyssey, my only distaste is the fact that you're stuck in a fake-cinema box in VR for ANY of the foot content, which was sort of the whole selling point of Odyssey to begin with.
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Yeah it's really crazy that they want to get paid for their work. How dare they?
Yep, it's really crazy that I had already purchased Odyssey. Your point is, exactly what?