You keep saying that Sir TJ but whenever stuff happens you're always at the scene.
You keep saying that Sir TJ but whenever stuff happens you're always at the scene.
Where is the law that says a public beta must end with a wipe?
well... if they dont call it a beta, it's not.
pretty much the same as relogging for materials is not an exploit unless FD calls it so and punish the offenders.
No, but some people clearly do.
It's very suspicious that he only appeared after 50 pages, almost as if he has something to hide.
I look forward to that day, the salt farming from some players would be truly epic!
(Strangely, that is something else I have managed to not need to do in the game... not short of any mats either!)
No, but some people clearly do.
Well I can't speak for others but I sure as hell know I don't give a toss what you want or don't want.
5 days to go!!!
It's very suspicious that he only appeared after 50 pages, almost as if he has something to hide.
Wow I didn't even notice it was a page 50, Time for me to tap out and let it circle the drain.
52, actually....
I am curious how many people expect a bug free release next week. So far I've seen none. So I don't expect much salt from them.
The people who are already complaining about Odyssey will very much continue and start all sorts of 'I told you so!' comments. And I will reply 'we knew, but we didn't care!'. It's always like that.
Technically it's still an exploit though.
I expect it'll be a a bug filled update with frequent connectivity issues that will require hot fixes galore. Like any other update/expansion release really.
i never said it is needed.
But if you started 1-2 weeks ago and you want to g5 that FDL tomorrow... well...
Or if you wanted to get 4+ billions from the last encoded CG ...
Now be fair some of them refunded during the Alpha so they will get much more poutrage time than that.Don't worry - we get to spend the next 10 years reminding them that they re-bought it after a week of poutrage. Preferably every other post. Apparently that is now the norm
Nothing is ever bug-free, but people usually do expect fewer bugs in a release than in a beta. I can see why FDev is avoiding the term beta, but actions speak louder than words. Instead of a full release we get a partial one. There's a reason for this, and you know it as well as I do.
stormyuk
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You call it a beta. FDev call it a release.
This circle argument which has been going on for pages is not going to change any facts. I am surprised everyone is still here.
It technically isn't a beta, it's getting released next week.
You think Steam will label this a “beta”?Not sure if this comment is referring to me, since I'm one of the two (?) refundians here, but Frontier is giving me exactly what I wanted. I've always said that the time between alpha and release is too short and there should be a public beta before client 4.0 gets rolled out to replace the old Horizons client. Now Frontier is doing exactly that. The aggressive comments are coming from people like Murfelton who just can't accept that I was right.
No law, but that has been Frontier's policy to date: an actual Public Beta takes place in a fork of the game database, so that players may test the things that they want to test without affecting their progress in the actual game.
Out at the edge of the galaxy, but want to test the new BGS changes? You can suicide back to the Bubble without risking the two years of data on board your ship. Want to test the new player experience? You can reset your character without risking the seven years of effort you've put into your character to date. Want to take a ship you'd like to fly in the future out for a spin, but currently lack the free credits? Sell everything you own and take it out for a test fly!
Calling the upcoming Odyssey release a "public beta" carries the risk of players doing just that to their actual accounts. And that, in turn, generates unnecessary work for customer support. Players have actually reset their actual accounts by accident during actual public Betas, or lost years of exploration data, despite all the warnings Frontier provided at the time. I'm sure the last thing Frontier desires is having to deal with that headache, on top of the inevitable wave of bugs a new release brings, once the software is released into the huge combination of PC hardware, software and drivers out there in the wild.
Where is there a law that a public beta has to meet your ridiculous definition?
