Is that people who bought the game through Steam, or those that bought direct from FD and then added a Steam key?
Horizons tanked in sales?
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Is that people who bought the game through Steam, or those that bought direct from FD and then added a Steam key?
Why are you reading the forums if it's the game you want to enjoy? The EULA doesn't require you to enjoy my presence to log in. Got a problem with a well founded presentation of facts? Don't read them, enjoy your ignorance and go undock.
Either way it's an accurate portion of the total sales. Last quarterly stated 825k sales, Reviewing previous quarters and the sales numbers on Steam it's clear that that platform has been accounting for a larger percentage of sales every quarter, including the 200k sold since the last quarterly report. If people take their accounts and link them to Steam, then that account is no longer a part of the "dark" portion of the player base that we only get a peek at every 3 months.
On top of that we really don't even know what we would pay for. A season 2 roadmap is desperately needed for this to blow over.
Those guys wouldn't be in the base games steam sales which we are comparing to.
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They also make up a very small minority of the Steam player base.
Because its pretty pricey, and I`m for on like many other backers have problem with paying for the game again. I`m not scraping Horizons but I will wait for a sale. Big one.
I've done my research thats why I posted this. All signs point that Horizons completely and utterly tanked. Why is it such a surprised to you when there is negativity everywhere? There is no cherry picking. Steam sales are a great benchmark. Elite dangerous did great everybody knows that.
OP - trying to introduce the 'streisand effect'. -- Please, if it's not constructive and accurate zip on over to Reddit and crack on till your eyes pop outa ya head.
FD are doing very well thank you, will continue to do so and will hopefully ignore post like yours intent on spieling inaccurate and conjecture based theories.
FD are doing very well thank you, will continue to do so and will hopefully ignore post like yours intent on spieling inaccurate and conjecture based theories.
Funny thing is, most of the things I think are wrong with ED are things that are probably producing more sales.
When I pledged to back the game back in kickstarter, it was partly because I have loved Elite since '84, but it was mostly because what was being represented was a different game, that broke the mould of modern gaming with it's generic spawn rooms, disconnected min-games and fluff to get sales that panders to a well known gaming retail demographic.
What was being represented was a game that couldn't be funded in standard ways because it was going to be the game FD wanted to make, the game described in the kick-starter and DDA and dev diaries would not appeal to everyone but it certainly appealed to a lot of us old Elite players who couldn't believe their luck that the long awaited Elite IV was being made and it was being made true to it's heritage, not mutilated to fit a sales demographic.
Well we know what has happened. ED is what it is, and the features that have been emphasised bear little resemblance to that initial dream but follow the contours of a curve to maximise sales to the modern gamer too close to be coincidence. Some say that this is just business, others say that it is FD playing a long game so they can fund the game we backed at kickstarter, there are varying levels of white and black knightery on both sides. Not to mention doom-sayers.
What is clear is FD have a clear understanding of how to sell their game and it isn't going to die unless they all suddenly start to haemorrhage smarts. They are not stupid, and if the only mould-breaking thing about ED is the sales model then all the evidence is that although it might seem at first glance to be difficult and inspire a lot of bad comment, it actually does function to bring in a lot of money over time and probably will continue to do so. My only hope is that the game I backed will somehow end up being made, because it was a wonderful, ground-breaking game that was a creative response to a lot of what is wrong with gaming today. I think that peoples leisure time is an important part of life and if that game were to be eventually made the world would be a better place. As it is - we have something different and probably much more sellable. And - that's business.
When I pledged to back the game back in kickstarter, it was partly because I have loved Elite since '84, but it was mostly because what was being represented was a different game, that broke the mould of modern gaming with it's generic spawn rooms, disconnected min-games and fluff to get sales that panders to a well known gaming retail demographic.
What was being represented was a game that couldn't be funded in standard ways because it was going to be the game FD wanted to make, the game described in the kick-starter and DDA and dev diaries would not appeal to everyone but it certainly appealed to a lot of us old Elite players who couldn't believe their luck that the long awaited Elite IV was being made and it was being made true to it's heritage, not mutilated to fit a sales demographic.
Well we know what has happened. ED is what it is, and the features that have been emphasised bear little resemblance to that initial dream but follow the contours of a curve to maximise sales to the modern gamer too close to be coincidence. Some say that this is just business, others say that it is FD playing a long game so they can fund the game we backed at kickstarter, there are varying levels of white and black knightery on both sides. Not to mention doom-sayers.
What is clear is FD have a clear understanding of how to sell their game and it isn't going to die unless they all suddenly start to haemorrhage smarts. They are not stupid, and if the only mould-breaking thing about ED is the sales model then all the evidence is that although it might seem at first glance to be difficult and inspire a lot of bad comment, it actually does function to bring in a lot of money over time and probably will continue to do so. My only hope is that the game I backed will somehow end up being made, because it was a wonderful, ground-breaking game that was a creative response to a lot of what is wrong with gaming today. I think that peoples leisure time is an important part of life and if that game were to be eventually made the world would be a better place. As it is - we have something different and probably much more sellable. And - that's business.
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You're always so glib to criticism Barking
There was a sizeable number of players unhappy with the model, unhappy with the price and unhappy with what was being shown posting all over the forum. Whether or not FD should listen to them though, that's another question entirely.
I've no problem with criticism or considered opinion of this game, me or anything else - but self appointed experts on the internet are not a source of fact, especially when they don't have all the figures to hand. How many Beta copies did they shift for instance? How many pre-orders through their store? Again I don't know the answers, it might be zero, but without that information this type of thread is just blowing in the wind.
Was the pricing model right? I don't know either way, because I'm not an expert. Frontier have people paid to make that decision who rightly or wrongly have more experience in the subject than most people on here. But the fact is boards will always attract people complaining about something. If it's too high then im sure that will be reflected in the overall sales figures, and there will be a drop in price.
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What's up with all the doomsday post? elite is doing fine, those who can't afford it will buy something else like candy crush or whatever. Those who like the game but didn't get the lifetime pass will pay the price $5 a month and be happy about it.
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Gotta love the financial experts believing Steam is the be all and end all of purchasing games.
Elite: Dangerous sold 419,351 units before it launched on Steam:
(This screenshot was taken from the backers app at the time of the Steam launch on April 2nd 2015)
The lion's share of this number were beta access or pre-orders. Frontier were only selling something like 1000 units per day post release. It's a niche game after all.
Elite Dangerous: Horizons has been available to pre-order for 4½ months now. Do you truly believe that everyone has been twiddling their thumbs waiting for it to release on Steam? In the last 4½ months I've seen countless threads on the Steam forums asking whether they qualify for the discount if they order direct and once they were advised of how to do so pretty much every one of them went on to do so. The only people holding out were those who had credit in their Steam Wallet that they wanted to spend.
All you armchair accountants really need to wait until Frontier releases their half-year financials (likely in early February) before jumping to conclusions on how poorly they've done.
One minor point, from the data we have it's over 1 million units before you even take account of XB1 sales.
Elite: Dangerous sold 419,351 units before it launched on Steam:
(This screenshot was taken from the backers app at the time of the Steam launch on April 2nd 2015)
The lion's share of this number were beta access or pre-orders. Frontier were only selling something like 1000 units per day post release. It's a niche game after all.
Elite Dangerous: Horizons has been available to pre-order for 4½ months now. Do you truly believe that everyone has been twiddling their thumbs waiting for it to release on Steam? In the last 4½ months I've seen countless threads on the Steam forums asking whether they qualify for the discount if they order direct and once they were advised of how to do so pretty much every one of them went on to do so. The only people holding out were those who had credit in their Steam Wallet that they wanted to spend.
All you armchair accountants really need to wait until Frontier releases their half-year financials (likely in early February) before jumping to conclusions on how poorly they've done.
One minor point, from the data we have it's over 1 million units before you even take account of XB1 sales.
Well, there is a roadmap for season 2, it's even in the last newsletter: crafting, small figheters fo a ships capable of carrying them (Keelback, FGS, Anaconda, Corvette, Cutter), Commander creator and multiplayer multicrew.
But basically it will be about completing the barebone gameplay we got with this first istance of Horizons, so, better missions, ground activities and so on.
btw, yes, sales of steam are not that representative, between lifetimers and copies sold directly from frontier's store.
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I pre-ordered it and just added the launcher as a non-steam game because i like the easy screenshots and the overlay .-.
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