Newcomer / Intro How am I to earn credits

Frontier Developments: If you're not GRINDING, you're not having FUN! [wacko]
But grind responsibly, or you might get corrected.

(can't believe I can't Google a gif of John Lemarr grinding a statue in the so-so 'Majority Rule' episode of The Orville)

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And it is a grind, barring the next moneygrab, but I'm still on the learning curve, so happy to be earning a million or so on each visit to a High RES.
 
There's forums where you can pay guys to fly your ship and earn credits for you while you're asleep. The more you pay them, the more you get. It's brilliant. I've got all the way to triple elite and an engineered Corvette, and I've never touched a key yet. I've now started PvP. I just make a list of the commanders I want killed, pay him the money, and he goes and hunts them down while I watch TV or have a few drinks down the pub. That's much easier and less time consuming than having to sit in front of the PC for hours at a time. What's more, you can play several games at the same time by paying different guys to play each one for you. Since I've started this, I really enjoy my gaming.
 
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There's forums where you can pay guys to fly your ship and earn credits for you while you're asleep. The more you pay them, the more you get. It's brilliant. I've got all the way to triple elite and an engineered Corvette, and I've never touched a key yet. I've now started PvP. I just make a list of the commanders I want killed, pay him the money, and he goes and hunts them down while I watch TV or have a few drinks down the pub. That's much easier and less time consuming than having to sit in front of the PC for hours at a time. What's more, you can play several games at the same time by paying different guys to play each one for you. Since I've started this, I really enjoy my gaming.

This made me chuckle. Have a Rep. [noob]
 
There's forums where you can pay guys to fly your ship and earn credits for you while you're asleep. The more you pay them, the more you get. It's brilliant. I've got all the way to triple elite and an engineered Corvette, and I've never touched a key yet. I've now started PvP. I just make a list of the commanders I want killed, pay him the money, and he goes and hunts them down while I watch TV or have a few drinks down the pub. That's much easier and less time consuming than having to sit in front of the PC for hours at a time. What's more, you can play several games at the same time by paying different guys to play each one for you. Since I've started this, I really enjoy my gaming.

Assuming you aren't being facetious, what's the fun in that? You pay $105 dollars for a game and then pay someone else to play it? [wacko]
 
Joking aside, there's reviews of these guys that play the game for you if you pay them, so real people are using their services. Where do you draw the line between trading in a Sidewinder for 10k an hour, RES farming in a Python for 6 mil an hour, scanning planets in a Diamondback for 30 mil an hour, ferrying passengers in an Anaconda for 80 million an hour and paying someone to wake up in the morning with an extra 50 million in your account?

Basically, every game mechanic is an exploit. The moment you double your cargo capacity in the basic Sidewinder, you've found some mechanic in the game that allows you to make money faster. Why would you want to do that, when it will reduce the playing time to get to the ship of your choice? If your goal is to get a Cutter, is it good to get it sooner than later? The whole structure of the game is designed to improve the rate at which you earn credits. You invest the credits you earned into ships that will make you earn faster, otherwise, what's the purpose of the Cutter. Would the game be more enjoyable if there were only Sidewinders? Would that stop people wanting to do any get rich missions?

Coming back to the guys that you pay to play for you, what about parking your ship on a Sunday night in Sol and coming back on Friday night to find it in Colonia after you paid a guy $50 to fly it there while you were at work.? Would that be a good thing? What about if there were an in-game shortcut to getting to Colonia - after all, they did introduce the neutron star highway. What if they introduced a new FSD with 10 times the range? Would the discovery of a wormhole that took you directly to Colonia in one jump steal from you the experience of travelling all that way? How many people would prefer to do the 800 jumps to get there, or why don't people do it in economical mode to make it 4000 jumps?


Lots to think about!
 
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Basically, every game mechanic is an exploit.

Gaming exploit

In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.

Cargo size increasing etc is absolutely intended.

If you ask explorers many will tell you a huge jump range is only really of use on the way back or getting to an occasional distant star - indeed as you say economy mode is often preferable. Nobody introduced the neutron highway, it was found.
 
Joking aside, there's reviews of these guys that play the game for you if you pay them, so real people are using their services. Where do you draw the line between trading in a Sidewinder for 10k an hour, RES farming in a Python for 6 mil an hour, scanning planets in a Diamondback for 30 mil an hour, ferrying passengers in an Anaconda for 80 million an hour and paying someone to wake up in the morning with an extra 50 million in your account?

Basically, every game mechanic is an exploit. The moment you double your cargo capacity in the basic Sidewinder, you've found some mechanic in the game that allows you to make money faster. Why would you want to do that, when it will reduce the playing time to get to the ship of your choice? If your goal is to get a Cutter, is it good to get it sooner than later? The whole structure of the game is designed to improve the rate at which you earn credits. You invest the credits you earned into ships that will make you earn faster, otherwise, what's the purpose of the Cutter. Would the game be more enjoyable if there were only Sidewinders? Would that stop people wanting to do any get rich missions?

Coming back to the guys that you pay to play for you, what about parking your ship on a Sunday night in Sol and coming back on Friday night to find it in Colonia after you paid a guy $50 to fly it there while you were at work.? Would that be a good thing? What about if there were an in-game shortcut to getting to Colonia - after all, they did introduce the neutron star highway. What if they introduced a new FSD with 10 times the range? Would the discovery of a wormhole that took you directly to Colonia in one jump steal from you the experience of travelling all that way? How many people would prefer to do the 800 jumps to get there, or why don't people do it in economical mode to make it 4000 jumps?


Lots to think about!

When I went to Colonia I used economical jumps. And made 80 million credits. On the way back I used fastest and made 50 million credits. That's how I got my A-rated Python.
 
There are missions out there that make a ton of money. Heck I just made 20 mil in about 45 min doing black box recovery missions the other day.

Not all the passenger missions are nerfed. LTT 9455 still has missions going to other close systems for 1.5 to 2 mil for 10-15 passengers.

My biggest thing I can tell new comers is pick a home station. Get allied with the factions to get the better paying missions and go from there. Pick a Fed system close to Hutton Orbital. You can go to all the neighboring systems picking up missions to HO and net about 40 mil if you have the right ship

Sorry it isnt the 100-200 mil an hour paydays, but at least it keeps the bank account fed and keeps the no rebuy monsters at bay.
 
Think this thread may show up some differences between platforms. Ps4 player here sorry PC people. Yeah it's a big nasty galaxy. If you read the forums PC land is full of gankers out to spoil your experience. Ps4 land seems a bit empty and I'll be honest I'm getting frequently annihilated by NPC's but i have managed to earn some credits and buy the first dozen cheapest ships.

How? Luck hard work attitude stubbornness more luck. OK your start ship has no cargo space duff weapons poor shields but it does at least have an engine. Passenger missions and trading are out as is mining. Bounty hunting is also not really open. So that leaves exploring and courier work. Not exciting but it will pay the bills. By running info for the same organizations in a few systems you can build your reputation and influence. Better rep will bring higher paid jobs. More money and you can upgrade your engines and shields and fsd, helping you make more money quicker.

Don't discount 4 figure jobs at the start, you need to build your rep and inf. In the systems I started in I found by luck and trial and error several places to get multiple drops to the same station. Stay in orbit to begin with it's quicker (takes a long time to land on planet surfaces) and use your system map to look up your destinations. Keep to p!aces close to the main star to save time. Super cruising several hundred thousand light seconds is time consuming and dull. Yes you will get interdicted, yes you will die. Often. Tough, this is Elite. Demon Souls in space if you like. I played for a few weeks in solo getting hammered by NPC's whilst learning to fly and run away (brave brave Sir Robin) and am now doing the same in open. Mostly harmless and proud of it.

Having built rep and inf some jobs now earn 100,000 a go. Plus getting jumped by pirates in a friendly system sometimes brings the feds and if you get a shot in you get bounty! So more cash brings in bigger ships, and that's a huge can of worms. Bigger ships means mining and trading become viable as does salvage work. They can earn some great credits quickly but can be very dangerous. Watch your back you've been warned.

You'll have noticed I haven't mentioned smuggling. I seem to get scanned everywhere I go so it's not my bag baby. And I haven't got the weaponry for bounty hunting. Yet.

Find a way. Your way. In your system in your ship in your part of the galaxy. Be Elite. Or play NoMansSky and look at weird plants six legged animals and pastel coloured skies.

I'll be out here suckin' vac making mistakes and trying to earn enough for a conda. Hell maybe one day I'll align to a power (whatever that is. Waaaaaay over my head). Peace man!
 
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