How long is the Alpha phase of the Beta phase?
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Thank you Gibbonici, a completely reasonable, calm point of view.
As an aside to some of you others: could you kindly stop implying that people are throwing the toys out of the pram, whining, have deluded expectations and all the rest of it. Up to a few days ago, everybody,* including you*, would have said beta backers would be involved straight after the alpha phase. This is now not the case, so the word mangling and logical gymnastics attempting to show otherwise are a little bizarre. TL
R - if you've nothing helpful or are just going to snipe, could you keep it to yourself this time?In my OP (nice and polite I thought), I asked for an *ESTIMATE* of how long the alpha 'exclusive' (FD's term, not mine) would last. Not *WHEN* or exactly how long as this is obviously not practical.
EG: 'We anticipate it will be 24 hours, 3 days, one week, three weeks, etc'.
It's pretty clear I thought, and not an unreasonable request under the circumstances.
ZeeWolf, you were the first person to use the word 'lied' in this thread.
Thank you Gibbonici, a completely reasonable, calm point of view.
As an aside to some of you others: could you kindly stop implying that people are throwing the toys out of the pram, whining, have deluded expectations and all the rest of it. Up to a few days ago, everybody,* including you*, would have said beta backers would be involved straight after the alpha phase. This is now not the case, so the word mangling and logical gymnastics attempting to show otherwise are a little bizarre. TL
In my OP (nice and polite I thought), I asked for an *ESTIMATE* of how long the alpha 'exclusive' (FD's term, not mine) would last. Not *WHEN* or exactly how long as this is obviously not practical.
EG: 'We anticipate it will be 24 hours, 3 days, one week, three weeks, etc'.
It's pretty clear I thought, and not an unreasonable request under the circumstances.
We all thought different things and pretty much all of us were wrong. I don't think anyone can argue there.
Was I? Sorry dude, maybe I was responding to post from another thread in my mind. This thread appears to be a reasonable discussion.
Ah, the term was "mis-selling" here where as I think I read a post earlier where someone was claiming they had been "lied" to so I was discussing whether that were true earlier.
There's been a few warnings due to overzealous posts so they're definitely there.
Maybe they're following the Colon and Nobby Nobbs method of policing.
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I would imagine ASAP or "very soon" would be a realistic answer to the OP.
Of course, (like every one replying on this thread) am not privy to FD's policy and can't read minds, accurately forecast future events etc.
I'd imagine 24 hours (if no issues) sounds realistic. Credit to previous replier.
I'd also imagine premium beta players will still have access to premium beta when alpha players are forced to upgrade to standard beta (for good or bad).
At least I can't see why they wouldn't be able to. I can't see a period of "Please try again tomorrow, Alpha in session"
I also see Alpha 4 happening sooner rather than later.
I imagine 3.05 followed by 3.06 in short order, fixing known issues (mainly networking). There was a pretty quick transition from 3.03 to 3.04, I can't see why it won't continue this way and FD rattles of fixes as quickly as they can.
Of course, these are my GUESSES. Please send your rebuttals to my opinions to NUL:
Of course, (like every one replying on this thread) am not privy to FD's policy and can't read minds, accurately forecast future events etc.
I'd imagine 24 hours (if no issues) sounds realistic. Credit to previous replier.
I'd also imagine premium beta players will still have access to premium beta when alpha players are forced to upgrade to standard beta (for good or bad).
At least I can't see why they wouldn't be able to. I can't see a period of "Please try again tomorrow, Alpha in session"
I also see Alpha 4 happening sooner rather than later.
I imagine 3.05 followed by 3.06 in short order, fixing known issues (mainly networking). There was a pretty quick transition from 3.03 to 3.04, I can't see why it won't continue this way and FD rattles of fixes as quickly as they can.
Of course, these are my GUESSES. Please send your rebuttals to my opinions to NUL:
There's a lot of new pieces of game that'll be working together for the first time, so I'm prepared for that "if" to be a very big one. Of course, a lot depends on what sort of condition FD are prepared to release the beta to the beta backers (that still sounds wrong) so it might not be a full alpha test before beta backers get their hands on it.
We just have to wait and see as we've been doing all along.
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Oh, I can see that happening ...
I think it will be a lot longer than ten days, a month at least.
If I had paid out a lot of money to get alpha on the 25th, I wouldn't be too happy if the cheaper premium beta came out less than two weeks later.
Also, I expect they might slow down releases a little to get the final release out just in time for Christmas to maximise sales.
A month!
There will be riots on these forums if that was the case.
I can see it in the next newsletter
"Yeah we know that everyone other than our Alpha backers have already waited up to 4 months for your pledge tier to arrive but we're going to hold it back another month just so we can eek out a few more hundred pounds from people using a shady policy of changing the goal posts and adding arguable minor balance upsetting perks. Since a large number of our zealots........I mean fans have no problem with this we'll be doing a lot more of this type of thing in the future. I know we kickstarted so we didn't have to have an evil publisher running the show but we're missing the evil so we'll pull the kind of shady stunts publishers pull instead, P.s.the rest of the newsletter will just be Upgrade to Alpha, Upgrade to Alpha over and over "
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