How to farm Opinion Polls quickly and easily.

Opinion Polls were coming slowly to me, so I decided to go out and find the fastest way to get them. Most people were suggesting going to an anarchy tourism base, but there are only three tourism anarchy systems in the bubble, so that seemed too restricted to me.

Instead, I headed over to my nearby tourism(non-anarchy) base and tried it out, and quickly found you don't need anarchy at all. Here's what you do.

First off, find a tourism base with a lot of one-room cabins. Each one of these will have a data pad, each with a chance of having an opinion poll.

Second, if possible, find one with a central Bar. Those are very handy because you can freely scan people from the top window without being seen. Also they often have a data pad inside you can check with no security clearance at all.

Here's an example settlement, and the layout I used, as well as my route.

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That's it. All you need to do is drop in on an APEX shuttle, scan a level 1 access, and proceed to run from building to building, dodging security as you go. Don't worry about stealth when inside the cabins; just sprint up to the data pad and check it for opinion polls. Most of the time, there won't be any, and you can turn around and sprint back out without them becoming more than alarmed. Repeat for all cabins in the area.

If you DO find an opinion poll, just sit at the door watching their movements. Sooner or later, they'll start walking towards a position where they can't see you. During that time window, quickly stealth up to the pad and download the data. It only takes 5 seconds, so you will have more than enough time if you move quickly, and the data in question is rare enough you won't need to do this very often.

The key here is not stealth, but SPEED. You want to be moving constantly between buildings. You want to call your apex back out BEFORE you finish, so it can be waiting for you when you get done. Once you're done clearing the settlement, get in the apex to somewhere local - doesn't matter where - and wait until you're ~50km in the air, before redirecting back to the ground. It'll turn around and respawn the instance, and you can do it all over again.

As you do this, you can often grab other materials as well. Focus on (encrypted)Computer Chips and Graphene, as they can be traded for other things. By the time I found 3 opinion polls, I had over 100 of these three, which is enough to trade for full suit upgrades.

And pow! That's it!

Honestly, my only real criticism is that not enough missions take me to these bases. I think that if I were raiding them more often, I'd find plenty of opinion polls just playing the game.
 
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Opinion Polls were coming slowly to me, so I decided to go out and find the fastest way to get them. Most people were suggesting going to an anarchy tourism base, but there are only three tourism anarchy systems in the bubble, so that seemed too restricted to me.

Instead, I headed over to my nearby tourism(non-anarchy) base and tried it out, and quickly found you don't need anarchy at all. Here's what you do.

First off, find a tourism base with a lot of one-room cabins. Each one of these will have a data pad, each with a chance of having an opinion poll.

Second, if possible, find one with a central Bar. Those are very handy because you can freely scan people from the top window without being seen. Also they often have a data pad inside you can check with no security clearance at all.

Here's an example settlement, and the layout I used, as well as my route.

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That's it. All you need to do is drop in on an APEX shuttle, scan a level 1 access, and proceed to run from building to building, dodging security as you go. Don't worry about stealth when inside the cabins; just sprint up to the data pad and check it for opinion polls. Most of the time, there won't be any, and you can turn around and sprint back out without them becoming more than alarmed. Repeat for all cabins in the area.

If you DO find an opinion poll, just sit at the door watching their movements. Sooner or later, they'll start walking towards a position where they can't see you. During that time window, quickly stealth up to the pad and download the data. It only takes 5 seconds, so you will have more than enough time if you move quickly, and the data in question is rare enough you won't need to do this very often.

The key here is not stealth, but SPEED. You want to be moving constantly between buildings. You want to call your apex back out BEFORE you finish, so it can be waiting for you when you get done. Once you're done clearing the settlement, get in the apex to somewhere local - doesn't matter where - and wait until you're ~50km in the air, before redirecting back to the ground. It'll turn around and respawn the instance, and you can do it all over again.

As you do this, you can often grab other materials as well. Focus on (encrypted)Computer Chips and Graphene, as they can be traded for other things. By the time I found 3 opinion polls, I had over 100 of these three, which is enough to trade for full suit upgrades.

And pow! That's it!

Honestly, my only real criticism is that not enough missions take me to these bases. I think that if I were raiding them more often, I'd find plenty of opinion polls just playing the game.

Here an actual video "demo" of that kind of base run, but with a "shoot first, ask later" attitude 😋 I racked up a notoriety 10 in no time though which can indeed be an issue depending on your play style.

Source: https://youtu.be/lXFY6ClC3_g
 
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Here an actual video "demo" of that kind of base run, but with a "shoot first, ask later" attitude 😋 I racked up a notoriety 10 in no time though which can indeed be an issue depending on your play style.

Source: https://youtu.be/lXFY6ClC3_g

Good video. I actually did the violent way for a while, but eventually I realized the time I was spending killing enemies was time I wasn't spending collecting data. At my best, I was scanning 6 data pads in about 4 minutes: I could summon the APEX the instant I touched down, and do the whole circuit before the APEX departed.
 
I had given up looking for certain things. If you just play the game, these things will come to you automatically.
Recovery missions are the easiest.
Make 100 of these in different systems and you have it all together.
 
I actually just wanted to bring an Artemis suit to G5 to add modules that would be useful to me.
Now my closet is full of suits.
It just happened that way. :ROFLMAO:
 
LHS 1541. Gharak's Peace is a lot like this. There is about 3 more in the system. None of the layout you show, but I prefer Gharak's Peace layout. (Single road with HABs to either side, bar at the end of the road) Anarchy, so get your ISIS hat on, murder the tourists to advance your goals. Makes perfect sense right?

My technique. Land next to power centre, take an E-Breach just in case. 200m walk. Zap patrol guard in spine. Blaze the PWR door, Zap PWR door. Zap PWR technician. Take PWR technician ID (usually a [2]). Delete alarms in PWR with [1]. Run to one end of the road (I choose end NOT near bar). Zap any guards. HAB 1 is the big kind with 2 Dataport rooms, 2 non-data port rooms. 4 people. Murder all take all. Then 4 HABs along the road, each is 1 room with dataport. Could use Sniper rifle on this road, fun shooting gallery, but silent shotgun is way faster. "Hold up there commander, I got to sc..." <thump>
Run into bar, maybe somebody here has [3] access, but often not. If they do, murder all, take [3]. If not, run to PWR, use e-breach or [3] to start shutdown. Run back to bar, murder all, get data port. Go to PWR, get power regulator. Leave, come back.
Other loot... drugs... sometimes schematics in PWR locker. Graphene. Nothing else ever found worth bothering.
It's much faster now I have silent weapons outdoors and indoors. I'm a Datajunky so Maverick + Capacity is a very nice to have (Guns make a noise in a vacuum... don't you just want to see a game dev in the stocks being laughed at by the whole town?)

Opinion Poll drop rate in Anarchy is about the same as Election/Corporate/Democracy/, again, game devs... what are you doing? Did you not notice Opinion Polls in elections are a dime a dozen, each tailored to say exactly what the person paying for it wants it to say? Get it together....
 
Opinion Polls were coming slowly to me, so I decided to go out and find the fastest way to get them. Most people were suggesting going to an anarchy tourism base, but there are only three tourism anarchy systems in the bubble, so that seemed too restricted to me.

Instead, I headed over to my nearby tourism(non-anarchy) base and tried it out, and quickly found you don't need anarchy at all. Here's what you do.

First off, find a tourism base with a lot of one-room cabins. Each one of these will have a data pad, each with a chance of having an opinion poll.

Second, if possible, find one with a central Bar. Those are very handy because you can freely scan people from the top window without being seen. Also they often have a data pad inside you can check with no security clearance at all.

Here's an example settlement, and the layout I used, as well as my route.

View attachment 288892

That's it. All you need to do is drop in on an APEX shuttle, scan a level 1 access, and proceed to run from building to building, dodging security as you go. Don't worry about stealth when inside the cabins; just sprint up to the data pad and check it for opinion polls. Most of the time, there won't be any, and you can turn around and sprint back out without them becoming more than alarmed. Repeat for all cabins in the area.

If you DO find an opinion poll, just sit at the door watching their movements. Sooner or later, they'll start walking towards a position where they can't see you. During that time window, quickly stealth up to the pad and download the data. It only takes 5 seconds, so you will have more than enough time if you move quickly, and the data in question is rare enough you won't need to do this very often.

The key here is not stealth, but SPEED. You want to be moving constantly between buildings. You want to call your apex back out BEFORE you finish, so it can be waiting for you when you get done. Once you're done clearing the settlement, get in the apex to somewhere local - doesn't matter where - and wait until you're ~50km in the air, before redirecting back to the ground. It'll turn around and respawn the instance, and you can do it all over again.

As you do this, you can often grab other materials as well. Focus on (encrypted)Computer Chips and Graphene, as they can be traded for other things. By the time I found 3 opinion polls, I had over 100 of these three, which is enough to trade for full suit upgrades.

And pow! That's it!

Honestly, my only real criticism is that not enough missions take me to these bases. I think that if I were raiding them more often, I'd find plenty of opinion polls just playing the game.

Excellent write-up! This is indeed the type of settlement with the most HAB ports that are easily accessible, so useful to farming any HAB data drops. I've raided quite a few of those during my quest for OPs and SCPs.

A few additions:

1)
Most people were suggesting going to an anarchy tourism base
The reason to do anarchy tourist sites is to collect SCPs alongside OPs, to unlock Yarden Bond. However, OPs seem to be much rarer than SCPs nowadays, and you need more of them (10 vs. 8). But another point going for anarchies is the ability to kill with impunity, not having to deal with bounties and notoriety. True, it's not necessary to kill inhabitants to access the ports, but for some it may be preferable (for me it was to create at least a barebone illusion of active gameplay).

2)
but there are only three tourism anarchy systems in the bubble, so that seemed too restricted to me.
Here's how I looked for the suitable settlements:

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As you can see, there are quite a number of them, even discounting the Large pad ones (which have a different, much less efficient layout). Just sort them by pad size - the ones with medium pads (M) are the six bungalow ones usually (the other sign is medium security). It's a good idea to also check their faction state, as any negative state (War, Civil War, Pirate Attack etc.) will result in an offline settlement which, IMO, is a waste of time (as you have to power it up and it has less loot than online settlements).

3)
For those who want to also harvest Power Regulators, or just prefer full-scale raiding with alarms turned off, the loop can be started at the powerplant, killing the technician with level 3 access, turning off the alarms, then proceeding to raid the bungalows, killing everyone inside, then coming back to the powerplant for the reg:
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The downside is that it certainly takes more time than simply running through HAB ports. And speaking of time...

4)
One thing to keep in mind is that there can be LONG "dry spells" when OPs/SCPs won't drop. Like, a dozen or more "dry runs" when none of them appear, or only one type appears. One option is to keep grinding the same spot, and hope for an end to the "dry spell"; another is to move to a different settlement. I had to switch three that dropped nothing for many runs, before hitting one that had drops. It's unclear if there is any system or hidden conditions to this, looks to be random so far.

Finally,

5)
You can trade for data with other commanders, some of whom will even be happy to donate. For example, after my quest for OPs I was left with a bunch of extra SCPs and one OP which are available for donation.
 
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LHS 1541. Gharak's Peace is a lot like this. There is about 3 more in the system. None of the layout you show, but I prefer Gharak's Peace layout. (Single road with HABs to either side, bar at the end of the road) Anarchy, so get your ISIS hat on, murder the tourists to advance your goals. Makes perfect sense right?

My technique. Land next to power centre, take an E-Breach just in case. 200m walk. Zap patrol guard in spine. Blaze the PWR door, Zap PWR door. Zap PWR technician. Take PWR technician ID (usually a [2]). Delete alarms in PWR with [1]. Run to one end of the road (I choose end NOT near bar). Zap any guards. HAB 1 is the big kind with 2 Dataport rooms, 2 non-data port rooms. 4 people. Murder all take all. Then 4 HABs along the road, each is 1 room with dataport. Could use Sniper rifle on this road, fun shooting gallery, but silent shotgun is way faster. "Hold up there commander, I got to sc..." <thump>
Run into bar, maybe somebody here has [3] access, but often not. If they do, murder all, take [3]. If not, run to PWR, use e-breach or [3] to start shutdown. Run back to bar, murder all, get data port. Go to PWR, get power regulator. Leave, come back.
Other loot... drugs... sometimes schematics in PWR locker. Graphene. Nothing else ever found worth bothering.
It's much faster now I have silent weapons outdoors and indoors. I'm a Datajunky so Maverick + Capacity is a very nice to have (Guns make a noise in a vacuum... don't you just want to see a game dev in the stocks being laughed at by the whole town?)

Opinion Poll drop rate in Anarchy is about the same as Election/Corporate/Democracy/, again, game devs... what are you doing? Did you not notice Opinion Polls in elections are a dime a dozen, each tailored to say exactly what the person paying for it wants it to say? Get it together....
Do you mean Ghatak's Peace?

Tourist sites are the best grind spot for OPs if grinding is your thing. This layout is particularly good. I'd still not recommend it to new players though. It's a quick way to burn yourself out. Maybe one day FD will change it so this sort of "game play" is no longer required for anything.
 
I'd still not recommend it to new players though. It's a quick way to burn yourself out. Maybe one day FD will change it so this sort of "game play" is no longer required for anything.

Indeed, the Opinion Polls grind was literally the worst time I had with Odyssey. The randomness of drops and the "dry spells" made no sense, and it was mind-numbingly boring. I can't imagine how people had to collect 40 of the darned things when EDO just launched.

At least you only have to do it once and then forget about the whole thing. Of course, it would have been heaps better if you could actually negotiate for a specific reward when doing missions, to obtain the type of material you are looking for. But I guess allowing players to reliably receive the progress-gating materials as a stable reward for meaningful gameplay would ruin the "borderline gambling" model.
 
Do you mean Ghatak's Peace?

Tourist sites are the best grind spot for OPs if grinding is your thing. This layout is particularly good. I'd still not recommend it to new players though. It's a quick way to burn yourself out. Maybe one day FD will change it so this sort of "game play" is no longer required for anything.
Yes yes, Ghatak's Peace. "Rey's <something>" is the same layout, lower security (less guards) and less gravity, easier mobility. But another +60 seconds of travel from dock (if that matters) and usually on the dark side (if that matters) but maybe can beast it faster if one is really gunning hard for Opinion Polls and absolutely nothing else will be attempted. And as you allude... this isn't really "game play" and I agree and yes it burns me out. And yes it makes Datamined Wake farming actually seem like "game play". Maybe that's what is running through every game dev's mind... Grind Utopia where everybody is just griding out Bitcoin mining and feeding their families. I wonder if they ever sit there laughing at the SQL reports literally churning out the man-years of wasted human effort and global resources going up in smoke with us ants running around accomplishing nothing
 
I wonder if they ever sit there laughing at the SQL reports literally churning out the man-years of wasted human effort and global resources going up in smoke with us ants running around accomplishing nothing
It accomplishes the very thing of keeping you distracted and spending energy on a pointless task. Bread and circuses, mate 🤷‍♂️
 
It accomplishes the very thing of keeping you distracted and spending energy on a pointless task. Bread and circuses, mate 🤷‍♂️

At 1 Opinion Poll per 6 six hours of this kind of grind I will not be unlocking Kit Fowler.
Imagine having to watch the opening scene of [Your favourite movie] 110 times before you were allowed to watch the second scene 130 times before permitting you to watch the 3rd scene 140 times... and so on, until you get to watch the final scene until you're bored. Why do we let game developers do this to us? Every time I give them money I am basically saying, yes treat me like dirt.
I play solo, the amount of grind I do should be entirely up to me. When I've done enough, for me, I should have an "Unlock Kit Fowler" button. I earned it when I handed over the money. Not when I fired billions of transistors millions of times. That's as dumb as all hell.
 
At 1 Opinion Poll per 6 six hours
Something is definitely wrong there, maybe try switching sites? When I found a spot that actually dropped OPs, I got 7 or 8 of them relatively fast (until it dried up again...).

I play solo, the amount of grind I do should be entirely up to me. When I've done enough, for me, I should have an "Unlock Kit Fowler" button. I earned it when I handed over the money. Not when I fired billions on transistors millions of times. That's as dumb as all hell.
The MMO model is tied to you playing their game online. Usually they don't trust you to do it for the sake of "good gameplay" (since they don't have a whole lot of that...), and use various gambling hooks together with the sunken costs fallacy to keep you coming back. The money you pay for the game is just the "admission fee" to the casino. Once there, for a chance to get a virtual reward you have to bet your time and energy (or in case of "lootboxes" and the like, more real money). It's no wonder online gaming is finding itself on the list of dangerous addictions...
 
Finally,

5)
You can trade for data with other commanders, some of whom will even be happy to donate. For example, after my quest for OPs I was left with a bunch of extra SCPs and one OP which are available for donation.
Huh? CMDR trading is possible? I did not know. Though in this specific case, I don't see how it matters. I've qualified for Yarden Bond 10 times over and still not seen 4 Opinion Polls. I can't imagine anybody struggling for SCPs. Might be useful in the future I guess. I am holding onto Building and Vehicle Schematics (predicting future expansions and grinds) and if those do come true, then the demand for such would be very high in the days after release and I might make a fortune then.
 
Huh? CMDR trading is possible? I did not know.
In Odyssey any material that you can collect on foot (Goods, Assets and Data) can be put in your backpack, then dropped on the ground and picked by another Cmdr, thus allowing material trading. There's even a thread for it:

Though in this specific case, I don't see how it matters. I've qualified for Yarden Bond 10 times over and still not seen 4 Opinion Polls.
In this specific case, another Cmdr can share his OPs with you.

Imagine having to watch the opening scene of [Your favourite movie] 110 times before you were allowed to watch the second scene 130 times before permitting you to watch the 3rd scene 140 times... and so on, until you get to watch the final scene until you're bored.
TBQH, I think most of the modern entertainment is like this, endlessly regurgitating the same ideas and concepts to mass-produce "new" content. It even has a philosophical basis (post-modernism), probably to make it more palatable for the intellectually inclined :D .
 
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In Odyssey any material that you can collect on foot (Goods, Assets and Data) can be put in your backpack, then dropped on the ground and picked by another Cmdr, thus allowing material trading. There's even a thread for it:


In this specific case, another Cmdr can share his OPs with you.
Ha, of course. I bet plenty of people got burned after chucking down the shinies only to be disappointed nothing came down in response! Trading with a side order of Surprise PvP... neat!

And yes I understand that I could obtain OPs for SCPs, but I cannot imagine anybody would take the trade since SCPs are dropping like candy and OPs are dropping like JWSTs. I'll look into though I just expect to drop SCPs and then be murdered on the spot. Still... that would at least be interesting
 
Ha, of course. I bet plenty of people got burned after chucking down the shinies only to be disappointed nothing came down in response! Trading with a side order of Surprise PvP... neat!
Hmm, I should probably put you on a list of Cmdrs not to trade with... and to shoot first on encounter :D Hawks and doves, you know.

Anyway, you'd be surprised to know that there is a number of altruistic Cmdrs willing to donate their mats for no consideration whatsoever. Provided you leave the "surprise PVP" off the table, of course.
 
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