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How to pool credits for squadron / player group to get a FC (or contributing to upkeep)
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We're not discussing an existing exploit, we're expressing concerns regarding a potential exploit to come with the next update.
Exploits will get nerfed, don't worry. Willl bugs get fixed? Almost never. But those exploits, they're on the radar for sure!
Why would the location need to be undisclosed? You can tell the whole world but only those in the squadron's private group could join.
I hope they shut this down. Players should have to earn FCs on their own. They shouldn't be able to cheese their way to 5 billion credits just because they play in a group.
That would put solo players at a massive disadvantage.
That would put solo players at a massive disadvantage.
Its going to be no different than T-bagging cargo or not collecting any thing you mine when in a squad...
Its going the be a game function manipulated by the player base to transfer items...
FC will remove the need to do that in the midle of space. if you can sell and buy at any amount that removes the need to T-bag items, as the carrier will be the location to swap cargo in a squad...
As a primarily solo player, I've earned enough to buy a FC on two accounts. I see no challenge with solo players earning an FC. That said, I've been a solo player for 4.5 years.
It's not about the inability to do it. It's about the amount of work involved. If players are allowed to pool their credits with friends it means that squadrons will basically have to do no work at all to get their FC meanwhile solo players would still have to grind their faces off for it.
That's not fair for solo players.
can you link or quote the game rule you think is being transgressed?
nothing is an exploit until frontier explicitly says so. but anyway frontier have always dragged their feet around clear rules, so if there was one for a feature that isn't even in the game ... that would be something to see!
we don't even know what caps there are on prices on the fleet carriers and if this is even possible (in all likelihood not, but frontier being frontier you never know!). people is just starved for content, and there is something to be had in sight! they have been waiting for this moment for months, some even years, and are sooooo excited(tm). let them have their fun, sheesh!
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Viajero
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Remember FC exist in all game modes. If you can restrict access to a PG players, yes that would work. I do not remember seeing that option in the stream though (squadron, friends and all). I may be wrong.
The stream said that the FC would be accessible in all instances, but that doesn't change the player presence in instances. You can have players use the FC in Open, PG, and Solo at the same time but the Open players won't see the PG or Solo players on the FC.
Viajero
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The risk is not that 3rd parties attack players but that 3rd parties sell the biowaste to the FC owner and get the 5 bill.
I'm sure we'll have the ability to set the FC buy prices. So, set the biowaste and fish prices at 1 credit so the 3rd parties lose money and then dump the cargo since the FC owner has the ability to manage the stock. And with remote FC management, you won't even have to be there!
Ah, now a new can of worms has been opened, but this is pretty close to gifting players credits.
Viajero
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I agree that we will have the ability to set FC buy prices (we do not really know yet about caps though), but not sure I understand what you mean. The biowaste I am referring to above has to be set at 5 bill, not 1 credit. Everyone docking will see the biowaste sell order and will be able to execute it.
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Viajero
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If there are no caps or if the caps are high (to be confirmed hopefully in beta), the proposed trading mechanics so far would also indeed allow de facto player to player credit transfer.
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I thought you were concerned with dumpers trying to clog an FC's stock capacity by filling it with worthless cargo. Setting the FC's sell price to a very low value would mean that the dumpers would lose money. And remote FC management would allow the FC owner to simply dump the worthless cargo, thus freeing up the stock capacity so that others could sell to the FC.
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